multiple dish's on same property?

[mark319]

I just talked with a dish salesman that kinda disappointed me. im thinking about moving to dish for my service. was a long time directv guy and they burned the bridge with me. I have my main house that I have 5 TV's in. I also have a camp on the back of my property on the river with 2 TV's in it. I built a road long time ago instead of the old dirt path that used to go to it and named it after my dad but no mail or deliveries goes to it. everything goes to the main house. with directv I have a couple dish's on the main house and one on the guest home but they all are paid from the same account. this dish guy is saying that b/c the camp has an address that is different from the main house he has to do 2 separate accounts if I switch. is he full of baloney and trying to get double commission for selling 2 accounts?

if he's gonna continue with this story...is there anything from preventing me from getting dish in the main house then just buying a used sat dish and a couple receivers and adding them to the account myself? I refuse to pay for 2 separate accounts for the same dang property. especially when the camp is not a constantly used building. TIA

 

[Scherrman]

Technically you would need to set up two accounts since it is a separate building. Those are just the rules and DirecTV has the same rules generally. You can avoid this by going to a local retailer and they may do it for you. They would probably set up your house under the new customer promotion but should charge you a set up fee to install a second dish and receivers at they other building. Depending on how many receivers you are going to need you may need to purchase some of those as well.

What you want to do can be done though, you just need to find the right installer to do it for you. Do not tell Dish directly that this is what you want done though because they will not allow it.

 

[raoul5788]

You can probably do that, but Dish sometimes calls and requires you to give them id numbers from all of the boxes on the account in a timely fashion. If you don't, they can cancel your account. Directv could do the same, of course, but I've never heard of that happening with Directv.

 

[dare2be]

How far is the guest house from the main house? Would a wifi signal reach it, or is it wired for internet now (on your same LAN)? If so, you could set up a 2 Hopper 3 Joey account at the main home, and move a Joey or 2 to the guest house to use wirelessly or hardwired when needed. You could purchase an extra Joey or two to activate when needed and not have to move Joeys from the main house. The advantage to doing this is a Hopper account wouldn't be subjected to any audit calls as previously mentioned.

 

[TheKrell]

Technically you would need to set up two accounts since it is a separate building.

Since when? Many people have outbuildings on their property.

 

[charliewhite]

Account Stacking!!

 

[Scherrman]

Since when? Many people have outbuildings on their property.

Depends on where these buildings are located. Dish normally is not going to allow a single account to run a house and then another building that is over 200 feet away. Dish has no way to know that there isn't another family living there and running a duplicate account.

 

[Claude Greiner]

Same property Same owner, I see no issue.

Contact a local retailer and they will do this without an issue.

Problem is you called a national sales partner who schedules through Dish and I can tell you right now dish network installers will not do the install you are requesting because there is no way to specify it on a work order

 

[n0qcu]

How far is the guest house from the main house? Would a wifi signal reach it, or is it wired for internet now (on your same LAN)? If so, you could set up a 2 Hopper 3 Joey account at the main home, and move a Joey or 2 to the guest house to use wirelessly or hardwired when needed. You could purchase an extra Joey or two to activate when needed and not have to move Joeys from the main house. The advantage to doing this is a Hopper account wouldn't be subjected to any audit calls as previously mentioned.

Sorry to say that is incorrect. I was audited. I know there is at least one other member that has been audited with their Hoppers also. (just can't remember who it was)

 

[mark319]

no wifi doesn't reach, its a few thousand feet between the 2 with the woods in between. directv had no problem with the setup that I know of. installer did everything but that was many years ago now. I told dish that its a camp on the water. going in it you can tell its our family weekend thing during the summer with all our pictures everywhere and bunks in the living room lol. but it does have my road (that's gated and locked) and for insurance purposes it has a different address from our house. but you drive on my property to get to it.

im prolly just gonna get dish at the main house and just buy a dish and 2 receivers on ebay and set them up myself. whats the worst that could happen? if they say anything and turn the 2 off at the camp...ill just get cox at the house and unfortunately just have media pc loaded with movies to watch down there.

 

[TheKrell]

im prolly just gonna get dish at the main house and just buy a dish and 2 receivers on ebay and set them up myself.

If I were you, I'd get broadband out there somehow, so that all receivers can be broadband-connected, and all communications to Dish come from the same IP.

I was audited. I know there is at least one other member that has been audited with their Hoppers also.

Do you have any idea what triggered that audit?

 

[Scherrman]

no wifi doesn't reach, its a few thousand feet between the 2 with the woods in between. directv had no problem with the setup that I know of. installer did everything but that was many years ago now. I told dish that its a camp on the water. going in it you can tell its our family weekend thing during the summer with all our pictures everywhere and bunks in the living room lol. but it does have my road (that's gated and locked) and for insurance purposes it has a different address from our house. but you drive on my property to get to it.

im prolly just gonna get dish at the main house and just buy a dish and 2 receivers on ebay and set them up myself. whats the worst that could happen? if they say anything and turn the 2 off at the camp...ill just get cox at the house and unfortunately just have media pc loaded with movies to watch down there.

Purchasing the equipment is exactly what you should do and if you have troubles installing it you can always just pay a tech to finish it for you. The best thing about purchasing that equipment is that you can deactivate it when you know it won't be in use for a while.

With the area being so far away there is no way Dish would do both locations as a new install. Like I said, you could get a local retailer to do it for you but you would most likely have to pay some extra money for the second install. Either way, you'll be able to get it set up the way you want.

 

[Tampa8]

I'm not clear after reading your post a couple of times. Does the rear camp house have a separate address or the salesman just thinks it does? If you are doing something that makes it appear to be a separate residence but it isn't, stop doing that.... lol... If it has a separate address that would make it difficult to get both places with one account. It would actually be easier if the two places were far apart, you could then use one place at a time, and that is allowed. Being so close that probably won't fly. As mentioned you might get a local retailer to do the install.

If all 7 TV's are to watch independently of each other, and not be hooked to the same phone line and not all hooked to the same internet IP, I have to think that would draw some attention to the audit team. If you have the same phone number and have internet there, and all are hooked up, probably good to go.

 

[mike123abc]

Sounds like a need to bury a fiber optic cable down beside that road and get the internet connected. Then you could have 2 Hoppers in the main house and a couple joeys in the camp.

 

[dwarren2]

When you go to the camp, how long do you stay there? Would it be possible to have a dish set up and just move a receiver to the camp from the main house?

 

[JSheridan]

Call a local retailer.

 

[Teehar]

One other possibility is a 211 tailgater,you could set it up at your camp.It would only be for one tv unless you mirrored,but that should be all under one account.

 

[dare2be]

Sorry to say that is incorrect. I was audited. I know there is at least one other member that has been audited with their Hoppers also. (just can't remember who it was)

Ok, I misspoke. I guess accounts with more than one Hopper would be audited, was that your case? Even then, he would have his Hoppers at the same location so an audit wouldn't be an issue. I don't think they would make you go to every Joey as well to authenticate, would they? Did they??

 

[osumike]

Yeah just pay a tech on the side to do this for you. I'm sure if you said what area you're in someone would bite. And I'd guess most every tech on here has an old +twin or .2 lnb they could part with. Just take a receiver down to your camp from your main house when you're there, or just purchase a receiver to keep there.

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[navychop]

I think the ViP211 is the best idea.


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