I found out Friday August 7th at 19:49:02 EDT another good reason for not having a dish on a wooden post. My big "P" was on a 4 X 6 treated post that had only been in the ground four years and two months. Checking my security cameras recordings that is when the rotted post snapped off at the ground line and the dish went down. It did not do any damage but sure made a lot of work getting a nice 2-1/2" pipe setup and in the ground today. Post must have been a reject from one of the big box stores because it shoud not rotted out that quick. About Thursday, I will put the dish back and start the attempt to get it back on sats and all will be well. It will stay in place this time!!!