Galaxy 19 on a 24 inch dish?

[Titanium]

That LNBF is circular only. It is not linear and circular. Like others have stated, it was produced for receiving circular Dish Network on 118.8 and 119w.

Sorry to give you bad news, but the bottom line is that seller was full of BS to say that a 24" dish and this LNBF would receive FTA. It was sold for theft of service against Dish Network.

Digiwave has always been notorious for incorrect product details and specs. This LNBF model is a perfect example.

 

[. Raine]

For that small of a dish, just get a universal mount like this:

Amazon product ASIN B002NHEZZ4
and definitely use a PLL Ku LNB. The PLL LNB will increase your chances with a dish that small. I have setup 97W on a 18'' dish with fair results, have a 20" on 95W, a Slimline on 121W, a few other small ones. It doesn't look as pretty setting it up with this type of mount and you will have to drill a hole, or stick a piece of wood into the feed-arm for mounting the mount, but it will work better. Cheaper too.

 

[NMoon]

The only LNB that will fit my dish seems to be the Viewsat VSLNBL which seems to have linear polarization rather than circular.

 

[Titanium]

Correct. For FTA, you want a linear polarity, not circular polarity LNBF. Viewsat went out of business years ago and any Viewsat product sold in old stock from 3-4 years ago. Technology changes have produced much better LNBFs. I would only suggest buying a PLL KU linear LNBF.

I would quit struggling with trying to receive some signals with an undersized dish. If you are interested in FTA, bite the bullet and purchase the correct sized dish and the correct LNBF. Otherwise, you only have more challenges and frustration ahead!

 

[NMoon]

I need to sell my existing dish in order to get out of my investment in something that did not work out at all. The seller on eBay will not accept a return because it would cost more to send it to and from me than the whole thing is worth. Looks like I might need to get eBay involved on this one which I wanted to avoid but now I have no choice. Several people are listing similar dishes to what I have on Craigslist locally and they are just not selling.

 

[Titanium]

Or you could put in an EBay claim for product not working as described. It is not your fault that an EBay seller lied.

 

[. Raine]

The only LNB that will fit my dish seems to be the Viewsat VSLNBL which seems to have linear polarization rather than circular.

The only LNB without modification.



You can see how it can easily be done, in this picture above, as I tried telling you before. Trying to do it with a bolt on LNB exactly as original will probably only be a exercise in frustration. Even with a good PLL LNB on a 24'' dish, you will not get all transponders available and might not be satisfied, an original bolt on non-PLL LNB will be worse.

I agree with what Brian said. Start a claim with E Bay now and try to get your money back. The seller definitely didn't advertise it correctly if they claimed it was fit for FTA. And a 24'' dish would be hard to sell anywhere unless you do the same as the E Bay seller did to you. I definitely wouldn't count on being able to sell it for enough money to buy a correct sized FTA dish, people give the small dishes away. Contact E Bay now and start the process to get your money back before the jerk who sold it to you closes their account and you get stuck. Stinks, but it is what it is.

 

[NMoon]

I already put an eBay claim in and said the dish was too small to receive free to air programming along with having the wrong type of low noise blocks.

 

[19psi]

What did you end up paying for a 24" dish?

I had a 24" DirecTV dish that I took out of service when I went FTA and a some big oval Dishnetwork triple LNB dish that was included with a used receiver I bought. I could NOT GIVE THEM AWAY.
Didn't want them taking up space in my garage so I put them on Craigslist for free. After several weeks of not one response, I hauled them to the curb for trash pickup.

 

[NMoon]

I did sadly and regret it deeply but that will not be an issue anymore. The dish is going back and I am going with the suggestion of a few people here which is a 39 inch dish with a PLL based Ku band LNB. Hopefully this will get me off to a good start exploring the Clarke Belt. I have been a shortwave listener and broadcast band DXer for many years along with an amateur radio operator for the past decade but have not messed with satellite stuff which I see as a new frontier.

 

[19psi]

I'm also in Indiana and a 39" will work great for you.

I bought mine new off ebay from a vendor in Canada for $140 including shipping. That also included a universal LNB and the SG2100 motor. Been working great for at least 6 years now. LNB failed about 2 weeks ago but that was from a lightning strike and only $10 to replace.

 

[NMoon]

You are a bit north of me then, I am in a northwest suburb of Indianapolis and somewhat space restricted but not from around here. I am a midwest to northwest to midwest transplant spending much of my life in Washington. A perk it seems of getting a DVB-S2 receiver that supports MPEG-4 will be getting Northwest Cable News again which is the regional news channel for Washington, Oregon and Idaho. The dish I was told about will be coming out of California and costs $99 with free shipping and PLL based LNB which is quite a deal.

 

[Jim S.]

Unless something has changed, I don't think you're going to be getting Northwest Cable News without a C-band dish.

 

[NMoon]

Nothing has changed but that is a potential catch once I do decide to get into C band stuff. Still quite a bit to watch on the Ku band especially with a DVB-S2 receiver which will be the next thing I look for but it will not be until October at the earliest. The dish its self has me tapped out for the month of September when it comes to more expensive stuff.

 

[jorgek]

To get the most viewing pleasure in the KU band you will need a motor to explore all the other sats up there. In the meamtime Galaxy 19 97W is a good place to start. It should be easy to locate and also to get experience setting up a dish. This is no doubt the BEST forum. Lots of great knowledgeable and experienced help is here.

 

[NMoon]

I got a response from the eBay seller that I got the useless dish from and they said it can only be taken back if the screw bag is unopened and if there are no screw marks on the dish. There are some on the zenith scale because of trying in vain to get a lock on any FTA satellite. Looks like my recourse is to take this to eBay through the buyer protection program because the dish can't be listed as FTA given that the LNB is an old style one that only works with circular polarization meaning just the pay TV satellites.

 

[Titanium]

My reply would be that you trusted his item description to provide correct information and assembled the dish to install. You had no way to know that it wouldn't work as described unless it was assembled. Only after it was assembled did you discover that the item description had incorrect information and was not capable of receiving the free satellite channels as advertised.

If he does not wish to be an honest reseller, you have no recourse but to file a claim due to deceptive product description.

The seller would be wise to correct their error and refund before it is escalated to a claim. You will be refunded and they will have to refund anyway. It is a no-win for a deceptive reseller.

 

[NMoon]

Thank you so much for the advice and I will comment about it. The description says this " NEW 24" SATELLITE DISH NETWORK LNB 110 119 118 1000 500 FTA FREE TO AIR ANIK F3" given what I noted about Anik F3 being pay TV only as Echostar has leased all the Ku band transponders this dish cannot legally be advertised as FTA. The only possible use would be to pirate services from Dish Network or DirecTV in the US and Shaw Direct or Bell ExpressVu in Canada which would be called piracy rather than FTA.

 

[Lehman bud farm]

The description says this " NEW 24" SATELLITE DISH NETWORK LNB 110 119 118 1000 500 FTA FREE TO AIR ANIK F3"

Not to burst your bubble here, but, according to the description you posted, this is not a deceptive product description.
If there are occasional FTA channels on any of those satellites then it was listed properly. Unless it was stated you could receive all the channels FTA which is not the way I read it.
I would chalk this one up to being a novice and making a mistake in understanding what you thought you were buying and move on, unless there is other information that is not being made clear here to say otherwise.

You may be able to replace the LNB on it for one that would work, not totally sure if the arm would support it properly as I do not have any dish network dishes around here. If so that would be a much cheaper route to take.

 

[Mr Tony]

The only possible use would be to pirate services from Dish Network or DirecTV in the US and Shaw Direct or Bell ExpressVu in Canada which would be called piracy rather than FTA.

BINGO!!