DISH we lost our OK CBS but give us the OTA programming guide info!!

To be more specific, it's an "agreement"* and has no timeframe. The 2-year part is covered under a different agreement.
* Not sure if legally there's a difference in 'contract' and 'agreement'

So lets clear the air. Do you have a CONTRACT or AGREEMENT if you have NOT signed anything???

I was a Dish retailer for many years and made a lot of money off DISH. When i was terminated like several others for not doing much business i lost my FREE showroom account. I got a 622 out of the garage and called and had it turned on. I did not sign any thing. So Do I have an agreement or contract? I don't think so.

Lots of people get out of their agreements with DTV and Dish all the time cause they have not signed anything either.

Tampa please name me once after any of these disputes the bill has went down. Its always going up and the choice we have is to pay more or go to something different. CHARLIE says its because he is trying to KEEP prices down but bottom line he does not want the increase to come out of his pocket. Charlie does not really care about the CUSTOMER.
 
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I am not a hopper owner , but do use the ota tuners in 2 of my 722's. I understand there is issues with ota dongles with hoppers right now. I hope can get this fixed so if it becomes an option to drop locals on dish and receive ota with a good working dongle that can receive the psip or internet data.( This will allow people in some markets to receive more free channels.) I see the new sling tv box is headed that way . Maybe dish can do like voom did and hook up an ota antenna at time of install.
 
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Folks while not a definite thing I heard at CES they are looking at making it so you can remove locals from your package if you don't want them. This is part of the reason why starting this month you will see locals as a separate charge on your bill.

Scott you would know this answer. Does the government (FCC) pay these local channel companies a lot of money to provide TV to the people?
 
Does the government (FCC) pay these local channel companies a lot of money to provide TV to the people?
I may know where you're going with this. First off, the FCC doesn't pay local stations to broadcast, in fact, they (the FCC) charges a license fee for the frequencies they use from public airwaves.

In the end, TV viewers are able able to receive these broadcasts for free. If they can't get these signals because of distance, blockages, etc, quite frankly, that's not the TV stations fault. If they receive these locals via a cable company, satellite company, etc, throw away any mention of "free".
 
Scott you would know this answer. Does the government (FCC) pay these local channel companies a lot of money to provide TV to the people?
Why would you think the government pays local channel owners? If that was the case we wouldn't have to watch 20 minutes of commercials for every hour of programming.
 
Do you have a CONTRACT or AGREEMENT if you have NOT signed anything???
If I get bored, I may look for the wording, but effectively it reads something along the lines of "if you continue to pay for our service and watch, you agree with our terms".
 
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THIS AGREEMENT, TOGETHER WITH YOUR APPLICABLE PROMOTION AGREEMENT(S), SETS FORTH THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS UNDER WHICH DISH WILL PROVIDE SERVICES AND EQUIPMENT TO YOU. THIS AGREEMENT IS EFFECTIVE UNTIL WE CHANGE IT. YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT WE MAY CHANGE ALL OR ANY PORTION OF THIS AGREEMENT AT ANY TIME AND FROM TIME TO TIME UPON NOTICE TO YOU (INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION, BY PUBLISHING A CHANGED AGREEMENT TO DISH.COM/LEGAL OR OTHER WEBSITE) AND, FOR THE AVOIDANCE OF DOUBT, SUCH CHANGED AGREEMENT WILL BE EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY UPON NOTICE TO YOU.

3. YOUR ACCEPTANCE OF THIS AGREEMENT

IN THE EVENT THAT YOU ARE A NEW DISH CUSTOMER, THEN YOUR ACTIVATION OF A DISH ACCOUNT OR RECEIPT OF SERVICES OR EQUIPMENT SHALL CONSTITUTE YOUR ACCEPTANCE OF THIS AGREEMENT.

IN THE EVENT THAT YOU ARE AN EXISTING DISH CUSTOMER, THEN YOUR CONTINUED RECEIPT OF SERVICES OR EQUIPMENT FOLLOWING NOTICE TO YOU OF A CHANGE TO THIS AGREEMENT SHALL CONSTITUTE YOUR ACCEPTANCE OF SUCH CHANGED AGREEMENT. EXCEPT AS OTHERWISE SET FORTH IN SECTION 4(H) AND SECTION 12, IN THE EVENT THAT YOU ARE AN EXISTING DISH CUSTOMER AND DO NOT WISH TO ACCEPT ANY CHANGED AGREEMENT, THEN YOU MUST IMMEDIATELY SEND A NOTICE TO US AT THE LEGAL DISPUTE RESOLUTION ADDRESS AND WE WILL, AT OUR OPTION, EITHER DISCONNECT YOUR SERVICES OR ALLOW YOU TO CONTINUE TO RECEIVE YOUR SERVICES UNDER THE PREVIOUS VERSION OF THIS AGREEMENT.

I added the bold parts, those that may most interest you.... or piss you off....

https://www.dish.com/downloads/legal/residential-agreement.pdf
 
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Heck, Dish doesn't care if you watch, just as long as you pay. :D
True, and technically, if you don't pay, that violates a different part of the agreement that allows them to end your service. As I just posted above, if you accept "receipt" of their service, you remain bound by the terms and conditions of the agreement. Makes no difference if you signed it or not. Will it hold up in court ? No idea.... Others are free to hire a lawyer and test it though !!
 
"remember when we had four channels and if the president was on the night was ruined.. oh my god the president is on ... were gonna miss flipper ...ahhh " <<<<< Jeff Foxworthy .... hehe
 
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I added the bold parts, those that may most interest you.... or piss you off....
https://www.dish.com/downloads/legal/residential-agreement.pdf

Thats fair i dont have any thing else to do today its ZERO out. I been pi$$ off before but usually get back on. :)

Will it hold up in court ? No idea.... Others are free to hire a lawyer and test it though !!

BUT, i have to ask WHAT are you posting about something you don't have ANY idea about. Is it cold where you are at Too.

I didn't sign anything... I didn't agree to anything. but i have a lot of customers that did sign agreements. They didnt even know what they were signing. You may have been like one of them and YOU have a contract!
 
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I promise you, I'm not a customer of yours.

As far as agreements with Dish, I can't help with your lack of reading comprehension and I even highlighted the relevant parts. You don't have to physically sign a damn thing !! Isn't that clear ? This section

YOUR CONTINUED RECEIPT OF SERVICES ... SHALL CONSTITUTE YOUR ACCEPTANCE OF SUCH CHANGED AGREEMENT

doesn't require a lawyer to understand.
 
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I may know where you're going with this. First off, the FCC doesn't pay local stations to broadcast.

I believe you are correct and is why i ask Scott for his answer. I never should have put down (FCC). For some reason i did think the local stations were subsidized by the government in some way. Maybe your right its all advertisement money and what they can get out of the cable and sat company's.
 
Yes, years ago, a stations sole source of revenue was advertising money. Later, and I'm guessing after the law/regulation was changed that restricted how many stations a single entity could own, they got greedy and decided "let's make the cable and satellite companies pay us too".
 
I promise you, I'm not a customer of yours.

Thanks, I did have a lot of good customers. Never once did i ever get a charge back for early disconnect. I see you been on here almost as long an me. YOU do have a lot more post so maybe some other thread needs you more than this one. I like to ask and listen more than be the expert (drip under pressure).

So this was were i was going..... I will leave you this to check out.

A recent research group’s findings revealed that the nation’s broadcasters receive billions of dollars in government subsidies in return for—nothing. From the report:

CBS is a primary beneficiary of public policy biases favoring licensees of local broadcasting properties, especially local television assets and the other activities – such as broadcast networks – which depend on them. For example, we expect Retransmission Consent-related revenues to accumulate to $3 billion between 2012 and 2017, with $250 million in 2012 alone.

Therefore, local broadcasting networks will never fail because of the assurances of the billions of dollars in government subsidies they receive.

http://politic365.com/2012/06/10/go...cast-networks-but-at-what-cost-to-minorities/
 
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I added the bold parts, those that may most interest you.... or piss you off....

https://www.dish.com/downloads/legal/residential-agreement.pdf

So I'm oblivious at times; but where was our notice this time from Dish?
I found out from the other thread on this board, and from my local on facebook; I don't recall any notice from Dish.

I'm also not very assertive; if I were to start a chat with a Dish rep; what could/should I ask for during the blackout? I just upgraded to a H3 & new 2yr agreement early oct; been a customer for many, many (10+) years.

I wish I would have kept my Tivo so I could at least record OTA during these negotiations; but I was greedy & sold it for a profit (to help pay for the H3 upgrade)

I did see somewhere for NBC they were offering a PPV coupon; I filled out something online; but never got it, wan't anything I wanted to watch at the time anyway.
 
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