Dish Lost 21.8% Of Satellite Subs In Last 4 Years
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First, we are not streaming 5 devices at a time, I just do not like paying for boxes in rooms where live TV is not used that much, Vue gave me that option.
Second, even when I had just 50 download ( which the majority of the population gets) never had a slowdown even with 2 kids at the time always watching Netflix, You Tube and the like.
Third, what is the big deal with the broadband speed I get, they offered me a great deal, should I not take it, I was happy with the 150 download I had before that but the 1g was the same price.
Fourth, I was not kidding, if Dish/DirecTV offered me that deal I posted above I would switch back in a second ( I was happy with both services), they need to figure out how to get pricing down, box fees are a big part of that, programming needs smaller bundles, etc.
The average mobile download speed in the US is 22.69 mbps. Source: Ookla 2017 United States Speedtest Market Report
Average fixed download speed is 39 mpbs. Source: FCC: Measuring Fixed Broadband Report - 2016
The majority of the population still does not have access to 50 mbps broadband.
As they say on those Farmer's Only commercials, "City Folk Just Don't Get it!"
Thats for mobile broadband. It says it in the link you gave.
If you click the "fixed tab" its much higher.
I edited my post to include FCC data on Fixed speeds.
FYI far less than 10% of the people around here have access to a 50 Mbps or faster connection, not even close to your 'majority'.
And like I said before, it's not a fair comparison to expect the same deal from DISH or DirecTV when they have to supply the satellites, dishes, receivers, installations, and all the other expensive infrastructure necessary to deliver their service. A streaming service gets delivered on the internet connection which you may or may not be able to get and for which you pay for separately.
I see, however the link you gave for the fixed average speed is from 2016.
The first link you gave is 2017, and includes fixed and mobile. Which is the one that states 60+.
There is and will continue to be a huge disconnect between the broadband experience of urban vs. rural customers into the next few years, at least until Elon Musk gets his cloud of low orbit internet satellites into gear (or is that just a pipe dream)?
In any case, there is a vast area of sparsely populated land in the country that cant get 50+ speeds, of that I wont dispute.
I am about as rural as anyone, but I am also fortunate to be across the road from the VRAD for ATT at 30mbps which is rock solid, and can also get 50 mbps through cable which isnt as dependable. I stick with ATT for the reliability here, and the hope that they do bump it up, as they did lay all new fiber within the last 2 years.
However a mile down the road, the cable is still available, but ATT only offers 3mbps there.
Its a crapshoot.
I am about as rural as anyone, but I am also fortunate to be across the road from the VRAD for ATT at 30mbps which is rock solid, and can also get 50 mbps through cable which isnt as dependable. I stick with ATT for the reliability here, and the hope that they do bump it up, as they did lay all new fiber within the last 2 years.
However a mile down the road, the cable is still available, but ATT only offers 3mbps there.
Its a crapshoot.
They continue to increase speeds in areas already served, but build-out in rural areas is still slow, and in some cases, not at all.. for instance Consolidated (formerly Fairpoint) is increasing DSL speeds to 50mbps for people under 2,000 feet from the central office, but I’m at 3,400 so I’m SOL
The main reason I like streaming is that the picture is so much better. Prices may go up but they would have to go up a lot to reach the $200 a month I was paying Dish. I have the same internet I had before going to OTT. It’s nice to be able to have different options.
All I can get here from CenturyLink is 4.0/512kbps now.
I have HughesNet for redundancy.
Hopefully, next year our co-op will have fiber on this road. They have it going in the two largest towns in the county now, they’re all wired up and going. Phase II is next, and I am either in it or very, very close.
I am looking forward to this!!
I believe it was the other way around, Sirius was close to bankruptcy. As a matter of fact, XM was criticized for the merger because it was said all they needed to do was to wait a few more months and they could have had Sirius for next to nothing. But the Sirius people brokered some funding and the XM management couldn't resist a dump truck full of money.
As for Dish, at some point a merger is in its future, with whom remains the question.
XM was closer to bankruptcy than Sirius. The merger was approved because there was a real chance BOTH would go under.
Remember, in addition to large numbers of people unlikely to get true high speed Internet anytime soon, even considering LEO and MEO potential options, there is an inherent efficiency in sending one signal to millions of people at the same time, compared to sending millions of separate signals over the Internet. There ARE capacity constraints that many conveniently overlook.
What works for 5 million doesn’t work for 300 million.
What works for 5 million doesn’t work for 300 million.
That’s true for Satellite, and it’s a valid point. However, I’d say that OTT works more like regular cable. Cable boxes.. at least here, have modems in them that receive the data. It’s all IP based now. The only difference is that OTT TV exits the cable companies private network and onto the internet where as traffic to the cable box stays on the cable companies network. Granted there is another step to OTT TV because you need the capacity where the traffic is routed to the internet.
Satellite is more like OTA.... it’s very efficient. However, unlike OTT and cable TV, it has to have enough bandwidth to broadcast every channel at all times. There is no SDV. Cable companies can use (and do use) SDV so they don’t have to stream every channel all the time. OTT doesn’t have to stream every channel at the same time to every customer. Although that’s still not as efficient as satellite when dealing with millions of customers, there are also more bandwidth constraints with satellite because there’s less bandwidth to begin with. Bandwidth is cheap... especially if it’s connected via wires and not wireless.
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