$32.01 for Flex Pack here, including the $5 per month autopay discount, Ohio surcharge, sales tax, and the $0.03 FCC fee.
Do you LOVE the Welcome Pack?
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Yeah, I wasn't counting the discount, since it's about to end. Could be $33 with the discount.
We live in a valley that can not get ANY locals OTA. So having the locals as part of the Welcome Pack is fine with us. If we could get locals OTA we'd drop Dish or any other linear service in a heart beat.
Sorry, but I don't follow. Are you saying you wish the Locals were optional on the Welcome Pack?
Ah, yes. That would indeed be a minimalist package.
I understand the overhead costs involved in having a customer. How about $15 for the Welcome Pack without locals?
I proposed that idea back when Welcome Pack was still $19.99 per month. At $22.99 per month, it makes even more sense now.
Ya know, the company has to make some money. I've seen a local-less $11 and $15 floated here. That's $132 to $180 a year. Dish can't survive as a company on that kind of return. Satellites cost really big bucks to design, build, launch, and maintain. Receivers and associated hardware ain't cheap either, and the installers cost a pretty penny as well. Considering that new customers generally get free receivers and hardware it would take years, yes, years just to break even for that single customer. Multiply that customer by 1000s, even 10s of 1000s, and you should be able to see that the only way to move forward is to charge the higher tiered customers more to make up the difference. The higher tiered customers get excited when their bill goes up and they go somewhere else. It's a vicious circle. So, for those who want that minimalist package, suck it up or their won't be any package available at all. Now, if you want to buy your own equipment and hardware and pay your own installer, like I did 20 years ago, there might be an argument for a cost break without locals...
Well, I've seen this $15 price not too long ago, and that was with locals. Remember, this isn't an advertised package and it does take some knowledge and manual intervention to get it. I'm sure they're just using it as a retention tool and not as a profit generator.
And the cost of retransmission of locals has gone up as has everything else in our economy. So too has the cost of the available satellite channels. I think, maybe, if you can't afford $23 a month for satellite TV you shouldn't even consider it. Consider instead going to nothing but free OTA. If you can't receive OTA for any reason, that is not the fault of satellite providers or their customers that would have to subsidize those who can't afford $23 a month...
When you retire and you are living off Social Security, which is below the poverty level, because its not $23 per month. Its $23, $12, plus tax, which puts mine over $40 per month. Yet actors, make millions of dollars per year and even Big Bang Theory actors get $300,000 per episode for 5 of them at least and the distributors want there share and now free OTA tv wants way too much per station to retransmit their signal and yet without cable and sat, the stations would not have many viewers at all, because not many people even have antenna any longer. We need National feeds of all four networks and the stations can go to H***.
And you have been a member of Sat Guys one day longer than me, so I know that you have seen Dish make promises(lies) like HD For LIfe and many more like Absolute. They have broken so many promises that we have all lost count. How long did Blockbuster dvds last.
And you have been a member of Sat Guys one day longer than me, so I know that you have seen Dish make promises(lies) like HD For LIfe and many more like Absolute. They have broken so many promises that we have all lost count. How long did Blockbuster dvds last.
You pay $12 in tax on a $23 bill? That’s more than 50%. No state charges that much in programming tax.
Also, TV is a luxury. Nobody is forcing you to pay for it. If you can’t afford it, don’t buy it.
TV a luxury?!? Tell that to my kids please.
Seriously though, for older retired folks especially those who live alone, TV is their news, weather, entertainment and sometimes a life line. That coupled with little disposable income can be a big problem.
“Little disposable income...” and who’s fault is that? I mean, if I don’t invest for my retirement, then who’s fault is it if I’m dirt poor when I’m 65? 
BTW you’d be shocked at the number of people with “little disposable income” I see at the casinos around here.... then they’re the ones who complain because they can’t afford TV
BTW you’d be shocked at the number of people with “little disposable income” I see at the casinos around here.... then they’re the ones who complain because they can’t afford TV
“Little disposable income...” and who’s fault is that? I mean, if I don’t invest for my retirement, then who’s fault is it if I’m dirt poor when I’m 65?
Not everybody can be fortunate enough to have adequate resources when or if they retire. For medical or other reasons a shortage of funds is very common. I'll probably work until they bury me but in my travels I see a lot of folks who are having a less than comfortable retirement through no fault of their own.
Maybe. I don’t know. I was just raised with an “if not you, then who?” mentality and I am fully aware that if I don’t take care of myself, nobody else will. Unless of course there’s a sugar momma out there who would like to help...
Maybe. I don’t know. I was just raised with an “if not you, then who?” mentality and I am fully aware that if I don’t take care of myself, nobody else will. Unless of course there’s a sugar momma out there who would like to help...
I was raised the same way and my kids are too but the older I get the softer I get too I guess.
