Any plans for DTV to release new mini genies?

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Your saying only 10% of D* subs have more than 1 TV ?

I find that VERY HARD to believe ...
Why. Forever they offered everyone a 4 room for free install package

I have never known anyone with just one tv. It is always a living room and at least one bedroom or office or game room
 
Why. Forever they offered everyone a 4 room for free install package

I have never known anyone with just one tv. It is always a living room and at least one bedroom or office or game room
Exactly ....
The majority of people have more than 1 TV ....
 
They probably won’t. Next release will be the C71 with the IP service. If it supports 4K streaming channels then they push people that way

Otherwise I am sure the data indicates X amount of households they serve have more than one tv. So why develop another box when maybe 5-10 percent of there households have more than 1

why go ip when they have so many users without internet? you know rural america?
 
why go ip when they have so many users without internet? you know rural america?
The Sats arent going anywhere for a long time.... But this is what is next.. I dont suspect Sat users will see a new box for awhile
 
true, the sats will be there for a while

anyone heard any other rumors on the hs27?
it was mentioned in the c71 manual iirc
 
true, the sats will be there for a while

anyone heard any other rumors on the hs27?
it was mentioned in the c71 manual iirc
There has been nothing.. I suspect for right now it doesnt exist.. Guessing here but i think they changed the way the C71 is going to operate with how they got Directvnow working
 
Then why force you to have an add on (client) just to have 4k ?
AND charge you extra to make it work ?

I don't understand what you are complaining about. You don't pay a $7 fee for the Genie 2, only for the client. If you don't like Directv's lack of a standalone 4K DVR, go with Dish.
 
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It would be smart to have ONE Box that does BOTH Directv via SAT and also DirecTV via Stream (what ever they will be calling it).
Say a Customer does the Directv Now or Stream, then later decide they want the Directv Solution due to data caps, they would already have the box and all they would need is a HS17 server or HS27?
 
They made some changes to the HS17 last year, maybe instead of rolling out the new HS27 they just changed the HS17. There really isn't much about the HS17 that they could possibly improve, other than having it support more than two 4K TVs at once and perhaps a bigger hard drive. Other than that, the only reason to change anything would be if they can find ways to reduce the manufacturing cost. A new model number would reduce confusion where there are slightly different capabilities (they dropped the eSATA port in the rev, for example) but they can probably tell by the serial number.
 
It would be smart to have ONE Box that does BOTH Directv via SAT and also DirecTV via Stream (what ever they will be calling it).
Say a Customer does the Directv Now or Stream, then later decide they want the Directv Solution due to data caps, they would already have the box and all they would need is a HS17 server or HS27?

I doubt they are worried about such cases. The C71KW has an ethernet port and no coax, presumably a C71 model designed for satellite would have a coax port and no ethernet.
 
They made some changes to the HS17 last year, maybe instead of rolling out the new HS27 they just changed the HS17. There really isn't much about the HS17 that they could possibly improve, other than having it support more than two 4K TVs at once and perhaps a bigger hard drive. Other than that, the only reason to change anything would be if they can find ways to reduce the manufacturing cost. A new model number would reduce confusion where there are slightly different capabilities (they dropped the eSATA port in the rev, for example) but they can probably tell by the serial number.

it has too few tuners, does not work with other dvrs/receivers, and has no video out

so yes, there are many places to improve
 
Another way of looking at new Server is it going to obsolete anyway because of AT&T wanting to go internet streaming and the cloud DVR. I can see Slice1900's point of just updating the HS-17 and the client boxes with a spec bump until that happens. Maybe the only other thing with the HS-17 is make it thinner but then I guess the reason they made it they did was so it wouldn't tip over and the type of parts in it.
 
it has too few tuners, does not work with other dvrs/receivers, and has no video out

so yes, there are many places to improve

OK but they will not add tuners nor give it video out so you might as well wish for it to make you breakfast for all the good it will do :)

The "not working with other equipment" was a business decision Directv made, we can only guess why but there's nothing inherent in its design that prevents that. The best hope is that eventually they allow more than one per account as 7 TVs is enough for most but certainly not enough for all.
 
OK but they will not add tuners nor give it video out so you might as well wish for it to make you breakfast for all the good it will do :)

The "not working with other equipment" was a business decision Directv made, we can only guess why but there's nothing inherent in its design that prevents that. The best hope is that eventually they allow more than one per account as 7 TVs is enough for most but certainly not enough for all.
Since it technically uses up to 17 tuners from the LNB, the decision may have been this way to limit issues with people having too much hardware.. Considering the current RB LNB maxes out at 21 tuners The video out is a lost point at this point.. It was never designed to be a one box system. If you want that get a Hopper or Stay with the current HR54. it was meant to be a headless server which it does well
 
I don't understand what you are complaining about. You don't pay a $7 fee for the Genie 2, only for the client. If you don't like Directv's lack of a standalone 4K DVR, go with Dish.
DISH doesn't have my channels.

Does Dish have recvr that gives you 4k by itself ?
I don't know, don't do dish ...
 
Since it technically uses up to 17 tuners from the LNB, the decision may have been this way to limit issues with people having too much hardware.. Considering the current RB LNB maxes out at 21 tuners The video out is a lost point at this point.. It was never designed to be a one box system. If you want that get a Hopper or Stay with the current HR54. it was meant to be a headless server which it does well

Uses 16 tuners off the reverse band LNB, not 17. It has two 8 tuner chips in it, same as the Hopper 3.
 
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