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5G and the Hopper?
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That's 5 Ghz wifi. Not the same thing
"5G" refers to the "Fifth Generation" of cellular evolution.
Bzzzz wrong....its not wifi..its fixed cellularThat's 5 Ghz wifi. Not the same thing
"5G" refers to the "Fifth Generation" of cellular evolution.
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It's multiple things. It's fixed wireless and it's cellular. I wouldn't expect all of these technological advances to be known to people in Moscow, Juan
I'll be installing my first MVDDS(multi-channel video and data distribution service) site next week for dish. From what I can tell, there'll be a main send site, and then multipoint receive sites, that eventually will be on peoples homes.
It is also 4G LTE, although it is AT&T, so they could also call it 5Ge if they wanted to...apparently.
In a word, realistically, no.
To obtain these incredibly high speeds higher frequencies are needed. The higher the frequency, the shorter the distance the signal will travel and the poorer in-building penetration will be.
Verizon for example uses 700 MHz as their main frequency for LTE. 850 MHz, 1.7 GHz, and 2.1 GHz are also used. 1.9 GHz is used for EVDO and such and will be repurposed to LTE.
For Verizon's real 5G that launched in portions of Chicago and Minneapolis a few days ago, looking at the tech specs for the Moto 5G module for the Z3 phone on Verizon, it is capable of using 5G on 27.50 - 28.35 GHz and 37 - 40 GHz. Those are REALLY high frequencies. As it looks right now, 5G is going to require small macrocells to be installed every X amount of feet or yards on utility poles or on top of other structures. It makes no sense to deploy these in rural areas where only a few households can get service with one macrocell, as opposed to a city block where houses are on top of each other and one macrocell can reach dozens or hundreds of potential customers.
For Verizon's fake 5G for fixed use that launched in portions of Houston, Sacramento and Indy last Fall, I'm not sure what frequencies are used. The way the service works is an antenna is installed outside of the home and then an ethernet cable is run from the antenna to a router in the home. The router is manufactured by WNC, contains the SIM card and has four LAN ports to connect other devices. As said above, it's no different then a standard cable or DSL gateway. Not sure if somehow you can put the thing into bridge mode and use your own router. Being forced into using an ISPs router is unacceptable to me.
Here's the manual, with a few pictures, for Verizon's fake fixed 5G router. I would imagine future iterations from them and other providers would be similar.
https://ss7.vzw.com/is/content/VerizonWireless/Catalog Assets/Devices/vzw-5g/verizon-5g-home-router-1b-wnc-lrv5-100-ug.pdf
Someday when 6g and 7g launch..they will resuse 3g and 4g frequencies
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Why don't you enlighten us on what you know, by creating a post that is longer than one line?
A few years ago at work when we switched from Windstream to Spectrum for our PRI voice service, as part of the pre-work, we had to get a new Adva since our was ancient. The guy who came by to swap it out was actually a fiber engineer who normally wouldn't be making customer visits but they were swamped with work and we were on his way home. I ended up talking with him for a while and he confirmed that just about all cell towers in my immediate area, and the vast majority of towers in Upstate NY use Spectrum (Time Warner Cable at the time) for backhaul. He said the typical installation is 1 Gbps symmetrical fiber. No real shocker here, he also said Verizon is the other major supplier of fiber to towers, but not always their own towers. The Verizon Wireless tower near work is powered by Spectrum fiber.
A buddy of mine used to have a hunting cabin in a rural area near the NY-PA line, there was a Verizon tower in the woods near by. I got right up to the fences and there were numerous pieces of equipment with 'Property of Time Warner Business Class' stickers on them just like my Adva and PRI at work.
5g main focus is fixed cellular...thats why 5g phones cost 2 grand and they add a $10 surcharge for 5g phone service( if you can find it)... the smart phone as we know it has reached it peak of popularity and usefullness..its time for a new device
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That would be the ideal situation. Build the 5g technology into the hopper, use it for video on demand and let a customer connect to the ethernet port on back if they need internet.
I never see this happening, let alone Dish actually launching a 5G service.
IMHO, it’s all smoke and mirrors at this point till Charlie finds a buyer.
My friend is on the 8th floor of the Westin in Denver and his ATT iPhone XS is displaying "5G e" is this a gimmick? I have the same phone and I thought it didn't have a 5G radio.
Smells like ATT fake marketing to me. Rebranding gigabit LTE as "5G."
Smells like ATT fake marketing to me. Rebranding gigabit LTE as "5G."
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Yep, been all over the news for months that ATT was going to do that. It rolled out with the last iOS update.
5G E Isn’t Real 5G. Here’s What You Need to Know
One more reason why I CANNOT STAND ATT's business practices and wish them nothing but ill will. This kind of tactic is downright despicable. Fake news to the max.
The problem with building 5g technology into the hopper...it would have to handle multiple 5g providers....not all 5g is the same
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Since terrestrial buildout's are expensive, the providers are always looking for the most cost effective areas to invest in, areas that provide the best return on investment. Rural people will probably be out of luck until some lower cost satellite service (LEO) comes along. And that is probably years away.
