fox sports dispute
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It may be different for what those RSN's are willing to do for online than it is for on Satellite. However the DISH Promise phrasing while different to me is saying just about the same thing. In fact I get from that DISH is pushing to have them not be part of the packages, perhaps that is the new DISH stance. In the past DISH has talked about that is the way it should be now maybe they have decided they can't raise package prices to what they would have to if the RSN's are included with what they are asking.
Contrary to what some are saying here and the conventional wisdom, I'm not certain DISH does need the RSN's IF .... IF... they can be easily identified as being less expensive than Directv, Comcast etc. DISH can already be less but if they are going to try it without RSN's they have to be able to clearly be less than the others. In fact not raise prices next year.
When Dish lowers the price of the basic packages, or when they start charging extra in the few regions that still have RSN's.
I agree with this - I just did a check on DirecTV.com and when you look at comparable packages, they are within $5. Granted, it is before the RSN fee so it is more. But Dish would need something that makes them stand out. This year they dropped the America's Everything Pack by $20 or $25, which signaled they are no longer going after HBO or Cinemax. If we do see the drop in prices with all the RSN's gone, I would say that regardless of what DishPromise.com says they are gone.
I would agree with this, except that we actually did see the price of the Latino packages drop when they were without Univision, only to see the price-drop reversed when Univision returned. So, even with a price drop, there is always a chance that a deal for the channels could be worked out later. At this point, I would say it is not a question of whether there will be a price drop, just whether it will come before or after the Crisis, uh I mean the scheduled annual Dish price changes. (Sorry, I am just excited about Crisis on Infinite Earths, which happens to be scheduled around the same time that Dish normally changes the prices of their programming packages.)
Actually, it's easier than that. We'll know when the channel number just vanishes altogether. No slate of "(insert here) removed your channel." No running ad of people stating how Dish is working/fighting for us. Nothing. The channel simply is blank and trying to tune to it results with tuning to the nearest channel in the package.
That's how it happened with SNY, MSG, and CSN New England (NBC Sports Boston).
That is true, but if that happens without a price break at that point, then there is definitely something wrong. The exception would be if that occurs in January, when we would normally expect to see a price increase. In that case, we can take the fact that there is not an increase as a de facto price cut.
Did they ever lower your prices for removing the Fox Sports regional channel(s) yet?
No, I expect that to happen in January, when the regularly-scheduled price changes go into effect. I do agree that there are so many regional sports networks missing now, from so many regions of the country, that the price without the regional sports networks should be the new normal, and the few regions that still have their RSN's should pay extra. Why should the rest of us across the country pay extra for our basic packages, for channels that we cannot even receive?
They never dropped the price for NYC when they dropped RSNs
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That is true, but that was only one market. So, having a market without RSN's was an exception, not the rule. Dish probably felt that it would not seem fair (or be worth it) to advertise a lower price for only that one market, and they may have been afraid that such an action might encourage too many people to "move" to NYC. Remember, at the time, Dish was already under scrutiny because of the whole distant networks mess, and they didn't need to have a major market giving people a reason to "move" due to sports (or rather, the lack thereof) to draw even more attention to that aspect of the issue. So, as far as charging NYC subscribers for channels they were not receiving, Dish probably felt that they were better off just negotiating a discount with each individual subscriber who complained, or that they could simply do without those subscribers. My point is that so many regions are missing their RSN's now, that having any RSN's in your package is the exception now, not the rule. Therefore, the price of the basic packages should reflect that, and let the few regions that still have RSN's pay for their own channels, instead of charging the rest of us (now the vast majority of the country) for channels that we are not getting.
I hear that Sinclair just signed a deal with DIRECTV (AT&T) for the RSN's and their team is now going back to work a deal with DISH.
Let's hope its true. Sinclair needs DISH and DISH needs Sinclair.
Let's hope its true. Sinclair needs DISH and DISH needs Sinclair.
Dish NEEDS to keep the regional sports Flex Pack add-on intact, and hopefully expand it to all packages.
Having to watch Carolina Hurricanes games on a renegade stream is getting old. I hope there's a deal soon.
BALTIMORE, Oct. 17, 2019 /PRNewswire/ -- Sinclair Broadcast Group, Inc. (Nasdaq: SBGI), and AT&T have agreed on a multi-year agreement across DIRECTV, AT&T TV and U-verse for continued carriage of Sinclair's owned local broadcast stations and Tennis Channel, for future carriage of Marquee Sports Network, a regional sports network featuring games of the Chicago Cubs launching in 2020, as well as for the 21 RSN brands Sinclair recently acquired and the YES Network, in which Sinclair is a joint-venture partner.
Sinclair Broadcast Group Reaches Agreement With AT&T
I agree with this. I have long felt that if there were a relatively cheap way to add the RSN's to the Welcome Pack, then that would be a very popular combination.
