No More CBS Sports?

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shneor

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While watching an NBA game this evening, a screen popped up several times during the broadcast saying that there would be no CBS Sports on Dish starting on April 1. What's up with this? That's why I have the spoprts package.
 
While watching an NBA game this evening, a screen popped up several times during the broadcast saying that there would be no CBS Sports on Dish starting on April 1. What's up with this? That's why I have the spoprts package.
Are you sure it was CBS Sports and not NBC Sports? I had the ESPN NBA games on and don't recall seeing any commercial about Dish dropping CBS Sports during those games. So my guess is you had on a different NBA game on one of the RSN's? We know Dish is dropping the remaining NBC Sports RSN's on April 1, and that does mean those local NBA games won't be able to be seen on Dish anymore.
 
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DISH is dropping the regional NBC Sports channels, not the national CBSSN or NBCSN (which will be shut down this fall anyway).
 
I can't find any reference to the CBS Sports Network and DISH with a dispute - does not mean there is one. I spent 17 years with satellite (13 with DISH and 2 with Directv in the middle before coming back to DISH) and finally had to give up and go elsewhere. Sports channels keep dropping off. Then I found I could actually save a lot by bundling my internet with cable TV and I get all my sports channels back again and some other cool options. After the promo expires I will still save $40 a month over DISH. DISH did offer me some credits to try to keep me - but not $40 and even if it was equal I still did not have my two RSNs and the other sports channels.

What do I miss? The Hopper. Hands above the Hopper is the best on the market. I also miss PTAT. DVR space is much left, but much more options On Demand. So this is the downside to the switch.
 
I can't find any reference to the CBS Sports Network and DISH with a dispute - does not mean there is one. I spent 17 years with satellite (13 with DISH and 2 with Directv in the middle before coming back to DISH) and finally had to give up and go elsewhere. Sports channels keep dropping off. Then I found I could actually save a lot by bundling my internet with cable TV and I get all my sports channels back again and some other cool options. After the promo expires I will still save $40 a month over DISH. DISH did offer me some credits to try to keep me - but not $40 and even if it was equal I still did not have my two RSNs and the other sports channels.

What do I miss? The Hopper. Hands above the Hopper is the best on the market. I also miss PTAT. DVR space is much left, but much more options On Demand. So this is the downside to the switch.
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I can't find any reference to the CBS Sports Network and DISH with a dispute - does not mean there is one. I spent 17 years with satellite (13 with DISH and 2 with Directv in the middle before coming back to DISH) and finally had to give up and go elsewhere. Sports channels keep dropping off. Then I found I could actually save a lot by bundling my internet with cable TV and I get all my sports channels back again and some other cool options. After the promo expires I will still save $40 a month over DISH. DISH did offer me some credits to try to keep me - but not $40 and even if it was equal I still did not have my two RSNs and the other sports channels.

What do I miss? The Hopper. Hands above the Hopper is the best on the market. I also miss PTAT. DVR space is much left, but much more options On Demand. So this is the downside to the switch.
Back in Oregon we switched from C-Band to DISH when it first became available. We were very satisfied with DISH so when we moved here to Hawaii in 2000, we signed with DISH again. Hawaii is considered to be in the California RSN world. I don't care about any California team broadcasts except when the teams I AM interested in are playing one of those California teams.

Now that DISH has been dropping RSN's over time and because of blackout rules (even when I buy packages like Center Ice, Extra Innings, etc. I won't get to see my teams when they play:
Sharks, Ducks, LA Kings, Lakers, Warriors, Clippers, Dodgers, Padres, Giants, Angels, A's, Sac. Kings

I agree with PortlandChris that the Hopper is the best and in addition to the good stuff DISH provides, the DISH Anywhere beats what other providers offer. Still, when my contract runs out with DISH, I may have to look elsewhere because of sports.

As I've mentioned in other posts pertaining to the NHL Center Ice Package, DISH puts most of the games on a satellite where the transponders don't reach Hawaii or Alaska so we're forced to stream the games from NHLTV.com (this is a new development this year).

It's goingto be interesting to see how things pan out with DISH going forward because it seems like many channels that we are used to having as part of our satellite/cable TV packages are becoming advertisements for everybody's new + (plus) streaming packages. I expect that besides sports, we'll start to see various other channels pull their programming from satellite/cable and include them their own packages like Discovery +, Paramount +, Disney +, etc.
 
As I've mentioned in other posts pertaining to the NHL Center Ice Package, DISH puts most of the games on a satellite where the transponders don't reach Hawaii or Alaska so we're forced to stream the games from NHLTV.com (this is a new development this year).
I guess you missed yesterday's uplink, then. Dish is working on bringing back the standard-def feeds for all of the out-of-market sports packages (NHL Center Ice, NBA League Pass, MLB Extra Innings). Those SD feeds (when they become available) will be on the 110 and 119 satellites, where the signals do reach Hawaii, just like Dish always did in previous seasons. So, all of those games (that aren't blacked out) will be available to you again without having to stream them, although most games will still be SD-only.
 
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I guess you missed yesterday's uplink, then. Dish is working on bringing back the standard-def feeds for all of the out-of-market sports packages (NHL Center Ice, NBA League Pass, MLB Extra Innings). Those SD feeds (when they become available) will be on the 110 and 119 satellites, where the signals do reach Hawaii, just like Dish always did in previous seasons. So, all of those games (that aren't blacked out) will be available to you again without having to stream them, although most games will still be SD-only.
Because Hockey in Standard Definition is so good!
 
Because Hockey in Standard Definition is so good!
It is better than not being able to get the games at all. (Or listening to them on the radio, for that matter.) Most of the time when two Canadian teams were playing each other, Dish would only have the games in SD anyway, due to Dish not carrying any Canadian RSN's, much less HD feeds of the Canadian RSN's.
 
It is better than not being able to get the games at all. (Or listening to them on the radio, for that matter.) Most of the time when two Canadian teams were playing each other, Dish would only have the games in SD anyway, due to Dish not carrying any Canadian RSN's, much less HD feeds of the Canadian RSN's.
I dunno about that. I spent many nights as a kid back home in Buffalo, laying in bed at night on a transistor radio listening to Canadian Hockey. It's one of the "magical memories" of my childhood and it was great!
 
Blackout rules shouldn't apply if your TV provider doesn't have the channel. So if you want MLB extra innings to watch your team play then you can, or NHL Center ICE, NBA etc.
I feel the same way. And if someone were to say that the RSN's are losing out because they pay for exclusivity thus the large carriage fees, have the in-market package be more expensive. Or sell it on a per team basis on top of the base cost. So, being in Chicago, if I wanted the White Sox and NBC Sports Chicago loses out $10 a month from someone who gets the games but not the RSN, then have the in-market cost be $120 more and pass that back to NBC Sports Chicago. I know that it might not make sense for areas that have 6 teams that count towards their in-market teams, but at this point there should be a way that anyone who wants to pay to watch their games should be able to.
 
I feel the same way. And if someone were to say that the RSN's are losing out because they pay for exclusivity thus the large carriage fees, have the in-market package be more expensive. Or sell it on a per team basis on top of the base cost. So, being in Chicago, if I wanted the White Sox and NBC Sports Chicago loses out $10 a month from someone who gets the games but not the RSN, then have the in-market cost be $120 more and pass that back to NBC Sports Chicago. I know that it might not make sense for areas that have 6 teams that count towards their in-market teams, but at this point there should be a way that anyone who wants to pay to watch their games should be able to.
Get cable
 
Part of the problem is best illustrated by the Philadelphia Phools, uh Phillies, who stupidly signed a 25 year agreement with Comcast. With the way the market and technology are changing almost daily, who does that? Well, now that you ask, the Dodgers (25 years), the Angels (20 years), and the Rangers (20 years) for instance. The Phillies agreement was signed in 2014 before streaming took off. So, none of those clubs can legally stream their own games and the networks, or Comcast, can't do it either since it's not part of the original agreement. If Comcast, for instance, decided to market a stand alone streaming package for all Phillies games I'm sure the Phillies' lawyers would be pouncing on them with demands for a cut of the monies and into court we go. It's a legal swamp because greedy owners only saw the dollar signs and didn't spend one second thinking ahead. The most irritating part is that Comcast isn't even a broadcaster so unless you have access to Comcast you are SOL if you want to watch your team.
 
Part of the problem is best illustrated by the Philadelphia Phools, uh Phillies, who stupidly signed a 25 year agreement with Comcast. With the way the market and technology are changing almost daily, who does that? Well, now that you ask, the Dodgers (25 years), the Angels (20 years), and the Rangers (20 years) for instance. The Phillies agreement was signed in 2014 before streaming took off. So, none of those clubs can legally stream their own games and the networks, or Comcast, can't do it either since it's not part of the original agreement. If Comcast, for instance, decided to market a stand alone streaming package for all Phillies games I'm sure the Phillies' lawyers would be pouncing on them with demands for a cut of the monies and into court we go. It's a legal swamp because greedy owners only saw the dollar signs and didn't spend one second thinking ahead. The most irritating part is that Comcast isn't even a broadcaster so unless you have access to Comcast you are SOL if you want to watch your team.
Umm Comcast owns the NBC station group
 
And if someone were to say that the RSN's are losing out because they pay for exclusivity thus the large carriage fees, have the in-market package be more expensive. Or sell it on a per team basis on top of the base cost. So, being in Chicago, if I wanted the White Sox and NBC Sports Chicago loses out $10 a month from someone who gets the games but not the RSN, then have the in-market cost be $120 more and pass that back to NBC Sports Chicago.
The White Sox don't play all 12 months of the year, so that figure seems a little high, don't you think? The most important thing when it comes to discussing RSN carriage is that subscribers should always have the right to drop their RSN whenever their team isn't playing, to save money, instead of being forced to pay for the RSN year-round.
 
Umm Comcast owns the NBC station group
Yeah, but the contract is with that specific cable channel, NBC Sports Philadelphia. It doesn't give Comcast the rights to put the games on whatever other channel they happen to own. Those rights would have to be renegotiated if Comcast and/or the Phillies wanted that to happen.
 

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