Debris

I could not make any sense out of last night's episode. Poorly concieved with more than one lack of follow-up. Don't know if I will continue. Doubtful.
 
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Last episode IMO was quite bizarre, I shoud say Bizarre with capital B.

Scary,

So much that I fast forwarded, after 15 minutes and went to watch just the last 3 minutes.

Maybe I'll watch next episode. maybe not.
 
Last episode IMO was quite bizarre, I shoud say Bizarre with capital B.

Scary,

So much that I fast forwarded, after 15 minutes and went to watch just the last 3 minutes.

Maybe I'll watch next episode. maybe not.
Yep, it was nothing like the pilot (which wasn't all that great). Just plain bonkers!
 
I liked this week's episode. Show keeps getting better, with more character development and good integration of the "debris" phenomena-of-the-week with bigger picture story developments. There are definitely some head-scratching moments with what these debris chunks are causing to happen. But I like how the viewer is kept in the dark like the investigators in trying to understand it. We'll learn what's behind the weirdness along with them as the mystery unfolds. This isn't the kind of show that you can watch while browsing your phone and smoking substances that have been legalized for recreational use in some states.
 
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I liked this week's episode.
Me too. I did not find it too bizarre to follow. They don't intend to tie up all loose ends in episode 2!
The black marketeers seem to be able to "control" the teleportation aspect of the Debris, some better than others, so how do they learn that?
This is a good question. But I only point out that one of those guys rematerialized with half his body inside a concrete support column! That is no kind of control that I would want.
 
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Well, I have continued to watch Debris, and mostly liking it. But what I said above is true to a fault!
I think I heard that each piece of debris does something different. I think the writers could keep this up for quite some time.
  1. There are small pieces of debris which, when ingested, allow you to teleport around.
  2. There are pieces of debris that can make solid objects permeable to other solid objects such as the human body.
  3. Most pieces of debris are anti-gravitational. Or maybe I should say "they float" above the earth. One wonders why any of it rained down from space.
  4. There are larger pieces of debris that can teleport stuff as large as buildings. This requires two pieces of debris both of which are connected to some sort of large metal frame, such as the steel framework of a skyscraper.
  5. There are pieces of debris that stop time.
  6. There are pieces of debris that can control your mind.
  7. There are pieces of debris that can allow you to control other people's minds.
  8. There are pieces of debris that can lock you into some kind of spacetime box.
  9. There are pieces of debris that can clone your body right down to your brain cells so that memories (e.g. needed to speak English) are retained.
  10. There are pieces of debris that can resurrect you. Once.
And I'm sure there are many more that don't spring to mind at the moment. The problem I have with all these different effects is that there seems to be no limit to what this alien technology can do. It is less like science fiction and more like fantasy.

With fantastic effects like these, operated by alien engineers onboard a spacecraft that they themselves built, it's a wonder that the spacecraft ever suffered a disaster and came apart at all.
 
Interesting. Never heard of it. Why do you say it's real?
Hutchinson a Canadian guy who started playing with a gizmo he invented and with electromagnetism, started to fool around and could achieve among other the following:

Antigravitation, objects could go up, solid objects, water, I think even a bowling ball

A solid object could become for a moment like very soft and embed itself in another object, when the gizmo was turned off, the first object was already embedded in the second object, kinda become two fused objects, that effect reminded me of what I read in the Philadelphia Experiment.

What else? I saw in a video in which he directed his gizmo to an iron bar and this one started melting.

I think there are some of his videos on Ytube, and I said the so called Hutchinson effect it's real because even though it's sounds like sci-fi it's real.
 
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I think there are some of his videos on Ytube, and I said the so called Hutchinson effect it's real because even though it's sounds like sci-fi it's real.
That sure does sound like SciFi! I can't Google any news source I would trust that actually verifies Hutchison's claims. Therefore, I remain skeptical. I did find this: John Hutchison - RationalWiki
 
I have been recording it, haven't had time to start a new show till now .... is it worth getting into ?
No, if you have other options available from the various streaming services. If your TV viewing options are limited to the big networks, and you are a fan of sci-fi that strips any semblance of "sci" from the writing, then it may be worth checking out.
 
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No, if you have other options available from the various streaming services. If your TV viewing options are limited to the big networks, and you are a fan of sci-fi that strips any semblance of "sci" from the writing, then it may be worth checking out.
I do have options, Netflix and AP for starters.
 
I have been recording it, haven't had time to start a new show till now .... is it worth getting into ?
Wise man. If you have a Hopper, waiting a week will allow you to auto skip the damnable commercials.

As Zookster intimated, there's little science in this so-called SciFi program. But as a scientist, I have to say that very few "SciFi" movies or shows have much (if any) science. What I want is some acknowledgement of real science in my SciFi. It is permissible to go faster than light by appealing to the "warp drive". It is impermissible IMHO to go faster than light without even acknowledging that might be a problem. Don't even get me started on the Disney film, The Black Hole. God Almighty that was awful! I had to watch it through to the end just to see if it was really that bad. It was. Did you know that both heaven and hell are lurking in there? :eeek

I also must say most of the episodes of Debris do have a twist at the end (classic element of scifi), and there is all sorts of neat alien tech to ooh and aah over. ;) The hardware makes it hard SciFi, and the psychological elements make it soft SciFi a la Ray Bradbury. I am entertained, at least so far. Oh, and there is conspiracy. Both of the main protagonists work for different agencies, and both of their bosses are independently conspiring to do something we don't yet know what.
 
Wise man. If you have a Hopper, waiting a week will allow you to auto skip the damnable commercials.

As Zookster intimated, there's little science in this so-called SciFi program. But as a scientist, I have to say that very few "SciFi" movies or shows have much (if any) science. What I want is some acknowledgement of real science in my SciFi. It is permissible to go faster than light by appealing to the "warp drive". It is impermissible IMHO to go faster than light without even acknowledging that might be a problem. Don't even get me started on the Disney film, The Black Hole. God Almighty that was awful! I had to watch it through to the end just to see if it was really that bad. It was. Did you know that both heaven and hell are lurking in there? :eeek

I also must say most of the episodes of Debris do have a twist at the end (classic element of scifi), and there is all sorts of neat alien tech to ooh and aah over. ;) The hardware makes it hard SciFi, and the psychological elements make it soft SciFi a la Ray Bradbury. I am entertained, at least so far. Oh, and there is conspiracy. Both of the main protagonists work for different agencies, and both of their bosses are independently conspiring to do something we don't yet know what.
Thanks for the info ...
You mentioned that you need a show to show you actual Science ...
But the SciFi channel is just the opposite, by name ... Sci(ence) Fi(ction) .... it is suppose to be Fiction, so I don't expect it to be all THAT accurate ...
But I know what you mean.
 
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The problem with Debris re: science is that every episode introduces a new magic trick that a random chunk of a destroyed spaceship can do. If they clustered the tricks around just, say, teleportation and telekinesis, or even what an intergalactic spaceship would be expected to do, like terraforming (yet another trick introduced), I could accept the unexplained, suspension of disbelief pseudo-science behind it. That's just sci-fi. But with all the tricks outlined in TheKrell's post above, you begin to wonder what purpose it would serve for a spaceship to be able to do all these things, much less how a random chunk (they all look like a piece of the ship's structure, not a working device) possesses all the technology needed for any nonalien to do it.

I'm pretty much in it for the relationship between the main characters the meta conspiracy story.
 
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I enjoyed the last Icarus 2-episode set. I thought it was fairly original writing with one or the other of our favorite agents disappearing into another reality. Of course we now have another magical piece of debris that can bridge those realities, which again raises the question how such an advanced civilization ever sat around and allowed their space ship to disintegrate. Where is their Omega 13 device when you really need one? :D

Now that I've said that, somebody is going to pop in here and claim the story is not original after all and the scriptwriters cribbed from Asimov 50 years ago. :(
 
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