Linux is a subset of Unix...granted apple had their version long before linux..if you ever take any cell phone forensics classes you will find they are very similar..as usual your expertse is flawed
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If Linux was a "subset" of UNIX, AT&T, Berkeley, Sun, and the other UNIX version developers would have been all over Linux kernel developer Linus Torvalds and GNU developer Richard Stallman with copyright lawsuits in the 90's. Didn't happen. Yes, UNIX and Linux use a similar structure and command set, as did HP-UX, IBM's AIX, Sun's Solaris, Sequent, and Microsoft's XENIX. "Similar" does not make Linux a "subset" of anything, just "UNIX-like". If you're capable, try comparing the underlying code in both kernels. They are significantly different, especially when you dig into the multiple UNIX kernel versions needed for various platforms compared to the single Linux kernel that runs on many platforms.
Now let's get back to the topic at hand...
Umm there was a univerity version of unix that was copied...err stolen...er used...
Back in the old days...( before Microsoft).. computer code was shared... thats why att,ibm and sun microsystems all have UNIX...to call something UNIX..it had to be certified...LINUX didnt want to certify...just read my link
The fact Roku uses the Linux kernel doesn't mean it has the same privacy issues as Android. Though it may, I don't know. Android's privacy issues don't come from the kernel, they come from the upper layers of software which track everything you do to feed back to Google for targeted advertising. Google charges nothing for Android, they aren't giving it away free out of the good of their hearts.
Pretty much every dollar Google makes is from advertising, thus being able to make more advertising dollars drives pretty much every decision they make.
Sorry, but Apple OS's are Unix variant based, not Linux based...
"OS X uses a hybrid kernel known as XNU, which is primarily a combination of Berkley's Free BSD and Carnegie Mellon's Darwin kernel"
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"The Mach microkernel is the core of the platform, with BSD supplying the POSIX compatibility, making OS X "true" UNIX; OS X has been certified as UNIX since Leopard."
What must be done to bring Linux to the Apple M1 chip
Linus Torvalds would love to run Linux on an M1-powered Mac, and a crowd-sourced project is trying to port Linux to Apple's newest, but top Linux kernel developer Greg Kroah-Hartman warns that it won't be easy.www.zdnet.com
Minor correction: Carnegie Mellon created the Mach microkernel, not Darwin. Darwin is Apple's name for their version of Unix (consisting of the Mach microkernel with the BSD kernel layered on top, along with BSD "userland") This was originally created by NeXT (founded by Steve Jobs after he was forced out of Apple in the 80s) and acquired by Apple when they bought NeXT in the late 90s.
When Apple's GUI etc. layers are added they call it iOS in iPhones or macOS in Macs, but both use the same Darwin base (plus share a lot of code in the GUI)
Google cut a data collection deal with roku...there are privacy options on the roku worth enableing
I've not gotten into the privacy issues related to Android or any other OS in this off-topic discussion. That's a whole different can of worms...
I read your link. Obviously you didn't. The whole piece refers to a "UNIX-like" definition, not whether a kernel is actually UNIX or not. If a kernel is not UNIX certified, it's not UNIX. End of discussion...
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UNIX is a registered trade mark...you can play with the source code all you want( in college) but if you want to call it UNIX..it needs to be certified...LINUX was offered to certify for $1...but they didn't want to...no need to
Enough is enough...you cant seem to understand that the original computer people shared knowledge...UNIX did not care if others used their source code
I would suggest that maybe you could attend a local community college and take a course on unix/ linux
CIS 204 - Fundamentals of Linux and Unix
This course introduces students to the installation, use, and maintenance of widely-used derivatives of the UNIX operating system, such as the Fedora and Debian distributions of Linux. Topics include file management, user account management, bash shell commands, shell scripting, working with...
www.ccp.edu
Linus Torvalds did not use any UNIX code in his Linux kernel. None...Enough is enough...you cant seem to understand that the original computer people shared knowledge...UNIX did not care if others used their source code
I would suggest that maybe you could attend a local community college and take a course on unix/ linux
CIS 204 - Fundamentals of Linux and Unix
This course introduces students to the installation, use, and maintenance of widely-used derivatives of the UNIX operating system, such as the Fedora and Debian distributions of Linux. Topics include file management, user account management, bash shell commands, shell scripting, working with...
I've probably written more UNIX and Linux code in my years as a systems administrator/analyst than you've ever seen. Get over yourself. Linux is not UNIX and I'm done trying to educate you...
Please...go take that course...they had an educational license to work with unix...linux is free..and open source
While I found this interesting ....
Does ANY of it have anything to do with the Topic the thread is based on ?
Which I find boring at this point because there are already so many of them here it may as well have its own FORUM.
Does ANY of it have anything to do with the Topic the thread is based on ?
Which I find boring at this point because there are already so many of them here it may as well have its own FORUM.
Linux is licensed under the GPL. The GPL is a virus, that infects everything it comes in contact with. Apple doesn’t want anything that touches their OS to touch the GPL, going so far as removing almost everything that is GPL’d. I think this includes emacs and why they bought Clang instead of using GCC. They aren’t the only software vendors that won’t have anything to do with the GPL software.
There are less restrictive open source licenses, such as the BSD license. I’m assuming that the distinction between Linux and Unix considers licensing and whether it is GPL or not.
Freedom and openness are defined in Richard Stallman’s terms. His interpretation of freedom and openness is literally a religion.
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Richard Stallman, now that's a name I haven't heard in about 17 years. Thanks for brining up bad memories.
When I was in something like college in the early 2000s, the instructor I had for my Linux class was a hardcore follower of that kook who refers to himself by his initials. For a 'field trip' he took us to a meeting of the local LUG chapter. I seriously thought it was the first step in the brainwashing process to join a cult. We were even handed some propaganda pamphlets as we walked into the door. These people were wackos.
I remember this one guy went off on a 15 minute rant about Bill Gates and Microsoft equating them to satan and Stallman was a god that should be bowed down to. Another guy, and I really wish I was making this up but I'm not, was so angry about the commercialization of software during his rant, he turned from pale snow white to beat red, shaking, and almost in tears, at one point he opened up his manpurse and took out a small stuffed Tux penguin and clutched it. I guess that was his emotional support animal, before emotional support animals were a thing Another gem, wearing a black 'Got Root' shirt, pulled out a chalkboard on wheels and started writing out statements from the Prophet Stallman akin to a Sunday School teacher writing out the Ten Commandments.
The real fun started when they began to turn on each other arguing with passion over such riveting topics as KDE v Gnome, Suse v Mandrake, Red Hat/Fedora. There were only about 10 - 15 people at the meeting plus another 10 - 15 of us students, most of us were blown away with how strange this all was. For optional extra credit, my instructor had us sign up for their mailing list. Nothing but email threads that were impossible to follow. I guess these weirdos couldn't figure out how to host a cheap BBS on Linux server. I unsubscribed within a day or two.
In this class we learned almost nothing about Linux. It was nothing more then the instructor providing indoctrination on his personal beliefs instead of him teaching us stuff. Everyday starting out the class with 'This will be a class about being free, Free as in Freedom and Free as in Beer'. Which a year or two later I learned was a tagline from Stallman.
Just looked it up now, this user group merged with a another user group in 2009, and then in 2015 the disbanded due to lack of participation. No real shocker there. The group should have just been called 'The 12 angry nerds'.
When I was in something like college in the early 2000s, the instructor I had for my Linux class was a hardcore follower of that kook who refers to himself by his initials. For a 'field trip' he took us to a meeting of the local LUG chapter. I seriously thought it was the first step in the brainwashing process to join a cult. We were even handed some propaganda pamphlets as we walked into the door. These people were wackos.
I remember this one guy went off on a 15 minute rant about Bill Gates and Microsoft equating them to satan and Stallman was a god that should be bowed down to. Another guy, and I really wish I was making this up but I'm not, was so angry about the commercialization of software during his rant, he turned from pale snow white to beat red, shaking, and almost in tears, at one point he opened up his manpurse and took out a small stuffed Tux penguin and clutched it. I guess that was his emotional support animal, before emotional support animals were a thing
Another gem, wearing a black 'Got Root' shirt, pulled out a chalkboard on wheels and started writing out statements from the Prophet Stallman akin to a Sunday School teacher writing out the Ten Commandments. The real fun started when they began to turn on each other arguing with passion over such riveting topics as KDE v Gnome, Suse v Mandrake, Red Hat/Fedora. There were only about 10 - 15 people at the meeting plus another 10 - 15 of us students, most of us were blown away with how strange this all was. For optional extra credit, my instructor had us sign up for their mailing list. Nothing but email threads that were impossible to follow. I guess these weirdos couldn't figure out how to host a cheap BBS on Linux server. I unsubscribed within a day or two.
In this class we learned almost nothing about Linux. It was nothing more then the instructor providing indoctrination on his personal beliefs instead of him teaching us stuff. Everyday starting out the class with 'This will be a class about being free, Free as in Freedom and Free as in Beer'. Which a year or two later I learned was a tagline from Stallman.
Just looked it up now, this user group merged with a another user group in 2009, and then in 2015 the disbanded due to lack of participation. No real shocker there. The group should have just been called 'The 12 angry nerds'.
