Only one problem with your chart, a DPP LNB will disable its LNB IN port when connected to a switch, so the cable from the DP Sngl/Dual needs to go to the DPP44 directly
Loss of Locals on 77w
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Sounds logical....because the DPP44 is locking feeds from the LNBF's and the Twin's internal switch should be activated only when hooked directly to a receiver......
This is the set-up i have now. all works till 77 changed... hurricane grace is coming but after i will look at levels. At one point last week tech told my husband needed a 1 meter dish (he would use for 110/119) and put 77/72 on the large 1.8 meter channel master (FYI i have VIP 222 to test - that is what i had before i switched to hopper3 - but they no longer let you switch old old not working 222 boxes for another they want you to be on hopper3...) anyway i really appreciate the help. The dishes have been threw 7 hurricanes never had to realign even after wilma cat 5 - i'm hoping Grace is an easy one... again thanks.
Remember there might be options before aiming to Eastern Arc. Also I don't understand why your tech aimed to 119°W & 110°W with the 1.8 m channel master....I think you have more HD content out of 129°W than 110°W so 129°W & 119°W should have been a better option....
if at the end you have to aim Eastern Arc you'll have more content out of 61.5°W than 77°W therefore the larger antenna should give you more aimed to 61.5°W & 72.7°W. FYI if you get eastern arc 61.5°W & 72.7°W there is no need for 119°W & 110°W
Keep in mind that while Cincinatti locals are now on 72.7, CONUS, that will probably change sooner rather than later. At that time there will be few, if any, locals that are not on spot beams. You will up a creek at that time because I don’t believe any spotbeams anywhere in the USA will reach as far south as you are.
There is one, Cuba. 110 transponder 25 spot 48. Carries about half of PR locals albeit in SD. Only covers a small piece of the southern Mexican states (Cancun seems like a really good place to be if you want to get it).
However, with 110 getting changed out sometime next year, most likely going to be gone soon anyway.
Hello Bobby there's not enough space to feed all 210 DMA, and that's the reason why they have some in CONUS, if not they would be on S.B. already, (also I will guess they will always try to have what is called network redundancy); unless they decide to degrade image quality because in average they have around 10 to 12 HD feeds per transponder, other option would be use codec H.265 but that means they'll have to upgrade for free, and numbers might be tight.....
But lets say they do feed all Locals of all markets in S.B. people in the Caribbean have another Satellite provider that covers all the Caribbean with Locals out of Miami
Not to mention the streamming options.....
Regards.
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They just took a bunch of CONUS locals and put them on spotbeams. I believe that is going to continue. We shall see.
The reason and this is my guess is they need more transponders for the Mexico service, believe me they run a business, businesses must be profitable, and the moves will always be what suites the best for the services they need to provide to markets that will pay their service, the Spot Beams where conceived to serve 210 DMA and they have limited spectrum provided from FCC so they MUST reuse frequencies. In order to achieve this, the technology involved is Spot Beam, who thinks that it (S.B.) was conceived so that people couldn't see locals of Chicago in Miami are wrong.
Kind Regards.
that is the crux of the entire conversation of this particular thread. Americans in Mexico have been using CONUS American beams to get US channels in Mexico. I think that is going to be a thing of the past. You will be able to get Mexico channels in Mexico and that will be it.
Bobby, people in the caribbean, not only Mexico, but, all the islands, Aruba, Curacao, D.R. etc, etc are able not only to get DirecTV USA, DirecTV Puerto Rico (Same beams out of 119°W; 99°W & 103°W (Ku & Ka)), DishNetwork (DBS Ku) and Kiwisat (Lineal Ku), there is no way no one will change that fact (you have US possessions in the Caribbean), I have been posting that there is a system even conceived for Mexico and the Caribbean....they carry Locals out of Miami, so the thing has nothing to do with where the people is getting the EIRP in fringe areas.....Canada also gets all the US systems, I have been trying to state that the TV Provider's business is conceived to acquire customers....if they have a few in Aruba, Jamaica, etc and they have legal accounts and they're paying for the rights that's all. If you don't believe me check this site: KiwiSat
Check the US channel line up, they sell in all the caribbean, Mexico where ever the footprint is:
More conus locals removed yesterday 
6365 KTWO (2 HD Local) CASPER, WY (ABC) removed from 77° TP 17 (HD Casper, WY market Hidden)
6366 KGWC (14 HD Local) CASPER, WY (CBS) removed from 77° TP 17 (HD Casper, WY market Hidden)
6367 KCWY (13 HD Local) CASPER, WY (NBC) removed from 77° TP 17 (HD Casper, WY market Hidden)
6368 KFNB (20 HD Local) CASPER, WY (FOX) removed from 77° TP 17 (HD Casper, WY market Hidden)
6370 KCWC (4 HD Local) LANDER, WY (PBS) removed from 77° TP 17 (HD Casper, WY market Hidden)
7954 KWYF (26 Local) CASPER, WY (CW) removed from 77° TP 17 (SD MPEG4 Casper, WY market Hidden)
7957 KCWY2 (12 Local) CASPER, WY (NBC) removed from 77° TP 17 (SD MPEG4 Casper, WY market Hidden)
5200 KSPR (33 HD Local) SPRINGFIELD, MO (ABC) removed from 77° TP 32 (HD Springfield, MO market Hidden)
5201 KOLR (10 HD Local) SPRINGFIELD, MO (CBS) removed from 77° TP 32 (HD Springfield, MO market Hidden)
5202 KYTV (3 HD Local) SPRINGFIELD, MO (NBC) removed from 77° TP 32 (HD Springfield, MO market Hidden)
5203 KRBK (5 HD Local) OSAGE BEACH, MO (FOX) removed from 77° TP 32 (HD Springfield, MO market Hidden)
5204 KOZL (27 HD Local) OSAGE BEACH, MO (MYTV) removed from 77° TP 32 (HD Springfield, MO market Hidden)
5205 KOZK (21 HD Local) SPRINGFIELD, MO (PBS) removed from 77° TP 32 (HD Springfield, MO market Hidden)
5206 KYCW (15 HD Local) SPRINGFIELD, MO (CW) removed from 77° TP 32 (HD Springfield, MO market Hidden)
6365 KTWO (2 HD Local) CASPER, WY (ABC) removed from 77° TP 17 (HD Casper, WY market Hidden)
6366 KGWC (14 HD Local) CASPER, WY (CBS) removed from 77° TP 17 (HD Casper, WY market Hidden)
6367 KCWY (13 HD Local) CASPER, WY (NBC) removed from 77° TP 17 (HD Casper, WY market Hidden)
6368 KFNB (20 HD Local) CASPER, WY (FOX) removed from 77° TP 17 (HD Casper, WY market Hidden)
6370 KCWC (4 HD Local) LANDER, WY (PBS) removed from 77° TP 17 (HD Casper, WY market Hidden)
7954 KWYF (26 Local) CASPER, WY (CW) removed from 77° TP 17 (SD MPEG4 Casper, WY market Hidden)
7957 KCWY2 (12 Local) CASPER, WY (NBC) removed from 77° TP 17 (SD MPEG4 Casper, WY market Hidden)
5200 KSPR (33 HD Local) SPRINGFIELD, MO (ABC) removed from 77° TP 32 (HD Springfield, MO market Hidden)
5201 KOLR (10 HD Local) SPRINGFIELD, MO (CBS) removed from 77° TP 32 (HD Springfield, MO market Hidden)
5202 KYTV (3 HD Local) SPRINGFIELD, MO (NBC) removed from 77° TP 32 (HD Springfield, MO market Hidden)
5203 KRBK (5 HD Local) OSAGE BEACH, MO (FOX) removed from 77° TP 32 (HD Springfield, MO market Hidden)
5204 KOZL (27 HD Local) OSAGE BEACH, MO (MYTV) removed from 77° TP 32 (HD Springfield, MO market Hidden)
5205 KOZK (21 HD Local) SPRINGFIELD, MO (PBS) removed from 77° TP 32 (HD Springfield, MO market Hidden)
5206 KYCW (15 HD Local) SPRINGFIELD, MO (CW) removed from 77° TP 32 (HD Springfield, MO market Hidden)
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No more Locals out of 77°W now they have 12 CONUS TP's unused: 1, 4, 5, 8, 12, 16, 17, 20, 21, 24, 29, 32.More conus locals removed yesterday
Dish SD core content CONUS 5 TP's: 10, 11, 14, 25, 26.
Dish Mexico currently has 15 TP's: 2, 3, 6, 7, 9, 13, 15, 18, 19, 22, 23, 27, 28, 30, 31.
Roughly 46% for Dish Mexico & 54% for Dish US, out of US portion more or less 29% in use, 71% unused.....
Lets' see what next with QuetzSat 1
Springfield Mo market. Lost all locals in HD. Going to have to switch me over to eastern arc but won't get a tech to me for a full week. That sucks. Not happy about it at all.
Strike 1 to your service provider........
I don't understand why they must carry the SD? I know someone will say it's discriminatory to carry only HD because not everybody has HD tv's......
I wonder how many people that can afford Pay TV don't have at least a 720p TV? Walmart has offers for HD TV's under $200......
Thinking about this, the HD Springfield, MO locals have only been removed from the eastern arc 77 CONUS beam. They're still on the 61.5 spot beam. Are you using a side dish for 77?
Ok Hurricane Grace (cat 1 but huge surge) is past no electric till today. dish is up and working. On why the large channel master dish is pointed at 119/110 is its a old system 20+ years and when set-up we got locals from 119 (nyc & la).. i think he just never changed. So if I'm reading this correct - I'm out for changing address for 77. and what your saying is i ask the tech to align the big dish to eastern arc (61.5 & 72.7) and no dish for 119/110??? by the way i really don't care is sd or hd just want my shows. FYI: even though i don't get 77 (cinn) i still get on Demand Locals (so must be on 119/110?) and if it come down to it i can watch that way....but because of that maybe its wise to use the 1 meter dish for 110/119???
How about the dish aimed to 77°W aim it to 129°W and get all the complete Western ARC and that's it.
