Yes harshness and bobby they have been around for a long time. But just one trip to the store i have seen more violations then ever before. You can even see areas where cars have driven off the road into barriers still not repaired. It is way more then ever before very not normal stuff. Be safe out there. No common sense out there.To be fair, the "California Stop" has been a thing for as long as I can remember.
Truckers have long known Oregon as "the state with eight shades of red" when it comes to running red lights.
