DIRECTV unlikely to keep NFL Sunday Ticket

[navychop]

Is there anything we can do to sabotage the merger talks?

 

[Bruce]

What were we complaining about that neither can agree on ?

You-Streaming sucks and wish everything was on one provider.

Me-Streaming is great.

 

[Juan]

I can’t imagine a sports bar that doesn’t have internet that can support streaming. ESPN+ is a necessity for NHL, MLS, FA Cup, and college sports. Paramount+ for UEFA. Peacock for EPL.

I have never gone to a sports bar to watch an NFL game. I might if there was a bar I could go to and meet up with fellow fans of the team from where I grew up (I can’t believe that the NFL doesn’t have out-of-market supporters groups… ok, I know a local Steelers and a Packers bar, but that’s beside the point).

I’ll go for games involving my university with the local alumni group, or EPL games with my team’s supporters group. It’s amazing that a soccer teams from London, Manchester, and Liverpool can fill multiple sports bars in a town in the Midwest at 8 AM on a Sunday morning. Most of these games are streaming only.

I went to a Power 5 school, live outside that area that the conference schools cover, so not all games are available on broadcast or cable. Plus, social aspects of getting together with people I have something in common with. A sports bar better have streaming to show the my school’s alumni group’s game or we’ll find somewhere that can show all the games. ( I’m one of 40 or 50 people that show up and buy a couple beers and food during the game).

When it comes to the NFL, local games are shown in market OTA (blackout rules apply). Sunday Ticket is for out of market. Guys like me. I have no clue where to go to watch my team. I’d definitely rather spend $300+ a season at a sports bar for the social aspects than pay for Sunday Ticket. I’m not paying that to sit on my couch at home. There are other places I can go other things I can do.

BTW, I am a season ticket holder for my local MLS team. I haven’t been to an NFL game in over 20 years. Rarely watch the NFL on TV. I’ll go to a couple of MLB games a year. I might go up an NHL game or two if I lived close to a team.

I’m not going to mention in-market MLB, NHL, or MLB games and the future of RSNs. Lots of people watch their local team on the local RSN, typically one of the highest rated show in its market. Granted, for a single RSN, it’s small number small compared to national cable channels. But, on aggregate, national total number of viewers, RSNs rival the most popular cable channels or OTA networks. If these are kicked off cable or satellite, it will push people to streaming.


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Copyright laws prevent most of that

 

[Jimbo]

You-Streaming sucks and wish everything was on one provider.

Me-Streaming is great.

I never said Streaming sucks, I just dislike the fact that you have to now have 7 different paid services to cover what was on 1.

I stream plenty ...
When you turn on TV to watch something, you look and choose and watch, quick and simple.
When you stream, you have to KNOW what you want to watch and then find out if it is on a service that you have .... seems like a PIA ...

If there something you want to watch and you know where to find it, its fine.

 

[Juan]

OK ... you win.

I really didn't think conversations should be a back and forth complaining about this type of stuff.
It gets old.

Yes D* has an app ... do they update it and manage it, probably not, Att probably does that.

What were we complaining about that neither can agree on ?

That you don't have a business degree

 

[Bruce]

That you don't have a business degree

I know you are trying to have a laugh at my expense, but everything I learned in college provided me with enough knowledge that helped me in my pursuit of retiring by 50 ( waited until I was 52), now 3 years retired and just so happy.

 

[Juan]

I know you are trying to have a laugh at my expense, but everything I learned in college provided me with enough knowledge that helped me in my pursuit of retiring by 50 ( waited until I was 52), now 3 years retired and just so happy.

I think thats great

 

[slice1900]

I can’t imagine a sports bar that doesn’t have internet that can support streaming. ESPN+ is a necessity for NHL, MLS, FA Cup, and college sports. Paramount+ for UEFA. Peacock for EPL.

ESPN+ for public viewing accounts is distributed via satellite on Directv. You can't legally stream ESPN+ in a bar or restaurant. Paramount+ is also not licensed for public viewing. Not sure about Peacock, but I'll bet the same is true.

 

[Bruce]

ESPN+ for public viewing accounts is distributed via satellite on Directv. You can't legally stream ESPN+ in a bar or restaurant. Paramount+ is also not licensed for public viewing. Not sure about Peacock, but I'll bet the same is true.

While true, I wonder how many establishments do it anyways.

At the gym I used to go to in Michigan, they had Roku Sticks hooked up to each TV (5), all showing Live TV via TV everywhere apps, one had CNN go, one had Watch ESPN, etc.

I assume the owner was using his log in from his home account.

 

[dtv757]

I believe business have to pay per seating capacity... (FCO - Fire Code Occupancy )

Business TV Packages for Restaurants and Bars | DIRECTV FOR BUSINESS

Get the best business tv package for your sports bar or restaurant from DIRECTV. Pack the house with exclusive sports programing like NFL Sunday Ticket.

www.directv.com

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[dtv757]

so yea ESPN+ for business is defiantly not $5 lol

on the ESPN + for biz website

ESPN+ for Business | Subscription for commercial business

ESPN+ for Business is our subscription for commercial businesses. Get up to 100 live events a month from top soccer leagues, UFC Fight Nights, PGA TOUR LIVE, College Football and Basketball, and more.

plus.espn.com

under marketing rep

ESPN+ for Business is accessed solely through DirecTV

 

[Don in CT]

so yea ESPN+ for business is defiantly not $5 lol

on the ESPN + for biz website

ESPN+ for Business | Subscription for commercial business

ESPN+ for Business is our subscription for commercial businesses. Get up to 100 live events a month from top soccer leagues, UFC Fight Nights, PGA TOUR LIVE, College Football and Basketball, and more.

plus.espn.com

under marketing rep

ESPN+ for Business is accessed solely through DirecTV

Will DTV make a deal with Amazon for rights to TNF?

 

[Jimbo]

That you don't have a business degree

Who needs a business degree ?

 

[dtv757]

Idk but I imagine for business there will be something on D*



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[Ronnie-]

Juan, you’re more than welcome to discuss the topic, but knock off the trolling.

 

[Juan]

Juan, you’re more than welcome to discuss the topic, but knock off the trolling.

I deleted it

 

[Ronnie-]

I deleted it

I know. I saw.

Just saying.

Thanks.

 

[SamCdbs]

Will DTV make a deal with Amazon for rights to TNF?

I suspect that it will, and I also suspect that 99% of small business local bars and such will ignore this and just stream it from a home account. Same is true for ESPN+ now and will be true for ST in the hereafter. All they are worried about are the big chains and the casinos.

BTW, ESPN+ is SOLD via DirecTV for businesses. You still need the internet to get it. DirecTV didn't quadruple its capacity to sell a niche product to a few bars.

 

[Don in CT]

I suspect that it will, and I also suspect that 99% of small business local bars and such will ignore this and just stream it from a home account. Same is true for ESPN+ now and will be true for ST in the hereafter. All they are worried about are the big chains and the casinos.

BTW, ESPN+ is SOLD via DirecTV for businesses. You still need the internet to get it. DirecTV didn't quadruple its capacity to sell a niche product to a few bars.

So if it's still off the internet, how do they port it to 10 TVs?

 

[dtv757]

I think they use channels in the 9000 range for ufc ppv and espn +

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