YoutubeTV 2025 price increase

[Bruce]

So, YTTV *is* part of "paid Live TV" then?

Therefore it must be a "traditional provider," the only difference being a lag in price increases.

I agree, already cancelled it, ends on January 8.

Doubt I will be back since ESPN goes streaming right before Football season.

But for those who want all those channels, it is still the best and least expensive option.

 

[Bruce]

You're going to get the same price increases because they are paying carriage fees just like the cable and satellite companies. They just don't have the added expense of providing the customer hardware and installation, stringing thousands of miles of cable up all over town, managing a fleet of satellites and a couple uplink centers.

Or a lot of extra worthless channels.

 

[Jimbo]

So, YTTV *is* part of "paid Live TV" then?

Therefore it must be a "traditional provider," the only difference being a lag in price increases.

It didn't Use to be .... It was a Great provider, according to those that use it ...
Once you decide you don't want YTTV, its junk.

Just the Opinion I have seen here for awhile now.

 

[comfortably_numb]

It was a Great provider

It was a great provider when I used it also. I just couldn't justify the cost for myself.

 

[Jimbo]

I would say they are a traditional provider, and customers are going to get the same price increases because they are paying carriage fees just like the cable and satellite companies. They just don't have the added expense of providing the customer hardware and installation, stringing thousands of miles of cable up all over town, managing a fleet of satellites and a couple uplink centers.

So ... because of those things you mentioned, Why are they able to raise the prices as much as they are ?
Are there Other things Streaming/Internet that they are stringing us all along with ?
Extra fees of some sort ???

Or, Because they CAN ?

 

[Jimbo]

It was a great provider when I used it also. I just couldn't justify the cost for myself.

I could go to YTTV and Save about $100 p/m

 

[Bruce]

So ... because of those things you mentioned, Why are they able to raise the prices as much as they are ?

This is why I posted the prices, YTTV raised the price $10, the first increase in 2 years, in that same timeframe, DirecTV raised it $30, three increases, what does that make them?

 

[Bruce]

It was a great provider when I used it also. I just couldn't justify the cost for myself.

It is a great provider, especially for the price, if you want all those channels, the majority of them with reruns or content (reality shows) I will never watch.

Since I subscribe to the streaming services (currently Paramount, Showtime, Hulu, Disney, MAX/HBO, Peacock, Netflix, Apple TV, AMC+), I receive all the new scripted content from Paid Live, all the streaming content, all commercial free and a lot in 4K, for basically the same price as YTTV, thanks to discounts/sales I have taken advantage of.

 

[meStevo]

YTTV will be a 'traditional provider' to me when they start charging me per streaming device, some mix of install / term fees, and/or have a variety of other fees not directly related to channels I want to even watch that I can't opt out of. Mom's DirecTV has $37 in fees, before the $17.99 for RSNs. Combined that's more than 1/3 her bill, even with a $25/mo credit (that is about to expire that she'll have to call and ask for).

The obsession is by those who troll these topics and not actually bother to discuss them. It's hilarious how much some of these threads you guys dislike so much live so much longer because you feel the need to chime in and attack Bruce .

 

[Bruce]

At what price point does it make them a "traditional provider" to you? $100 a month? $125 a month?

If YTTV went that high over time, imagine how much Cable and Satellite TV would be.

 

[savarese04]

YTTV is keeping the costs down because they don't have any unique infra costs. They basically pay provider fees and that's that. The infra, support, R&D, CDN, etc all piggyback off YouTube itself. Additionally they have an established ad network they can tap to sell ads.

Google is also historically cool with taking a loss or barely breaking even on new services in the name of customer acquisition and they will incentivize existing business relationships to expand into these new services. ("If you come spend 100k in YTTV ads with us, we'll give you 200k worth of Google search ads free"). This is how they bury these losses (nobody is going to notice 50M less in Google search revenue in the greater scheme of things)

In the end, YTTV will see more price increases as they cement the user base. However, "traditional providers" will always outpace YTTV in those price increases because their costs will always outpace YTTVs

 

[comfortably_numb]

In the end, YTTV will see more price increases as they cement the user base. However, "traditional providers" will always outpace YTTV in those price increases because their costs will always outpace YTTVs

In the end, all that will be left of MVPD's is YTTV and it'll be just as expensive, unless the model breaks and I don't see that happening.

 

[ncted]

So 3 in the last two years, compared to the one that YTTV had.

Yep, YouTube is definitely becoming like a Traditional Provider.

Not saying it isn't better in terms of cost, but it sure is starting to resemble the traditional providers in terms of the cost increases. I am not saying it is Alphabet's fault either as the price increases are directly driven by the channel owners Just like Traditional Providers. I'd still recommend YTTV for anyone wanting to save money over cable, but I'd also tell them to expect price increases that outpace inflation every year or two, similar to cable.

 

[Jimbo]

Not saying it isn't better in terms of cost, but it sure is starting to resemble the traditional providers in terms of the cost increases. I am not saying it is Alphabet's fault either as the price increases are directly driven by the channel owners Just like Traditional Providers. I'd still recommend YTTV for anyone wanting to save money over cable, but I'd also tell them to expect price increases that outpace inflation every year or two, similar to cable.

I would imagine the Streaming services will be going up on a more regular basis as soon as they figure out how much more they Can get from the sub. Advantage is you can leave at any time.

(Netflix, Paramount Plus, Disney ect) (and the rest)

 

[Bruce]

I would imagine the Streaming services will be going up on a more regular basis as soon as they figure out how much more they Can get from the sub. Advantage is you can leave at any time.

(Netflix, Paramount Plus, Disney ect) (and the rest)

All of them go up every year, yet Cable/Satellite goes up more, sometimes twice a year ( Charter, Comcast, DirecTV).

So the difference in pricing continues to expand, between Cable/Satellite TV and Streaming.

 

[Jimbo]

All of them go up every year, yet Cable/Satellite goes up more, sometimes twice a year ( Charter, Comcast, DirecTV).

So the difference in pricing continues to expand, between Cable/Satellite TV and Streaming.

The Sad emoji is pointed at the fact of the comment ... not you.

As you know, ALL prices go up, pretty much whenever they decide, we really don't have much choice in the matter.
You can leave the one that went up, to find another, and IT will also go up ...

Unless you want to crawl in a cave and have None of life's mostly necessities, you'll have to deal with that.

I'm surprised we haven't been told about Internet prices rising ... I'm sure they have ...

 

[ncted]

I would imagine the Streaming services will be going up on a more regular basis as soon as they figure out how much more they Can get from the sub. Advantage is you can leave at any time.

(Netflix, Paramount Plus, Disney ect) (and the rest)

For sure. There is a difference there as well that is isn't necessarily easy for me to pin down. The reality is streaming services have content from various studios/networks just like MVPDs, but somehow streaming feels different than the traditional linear model. When I want to cancel Netflix, I still have access to subscribe to Paramount+, Disney+. AppleTV+, Peacock, Prime Video, etc. I think it makes me feel like I have more control of the situation compared to MVPDs, where I can switch from YTTV to DirecTV Stream or Dish, but I am not really changing the available content all that much.

A flawed analogy that just popped into my head: Traditional Linear TV is kind of like driving into New York City, where no matter how you go, you are going to experience traffic jams, potholes, tolls, etc., and leaving is almost as big a headache. In comparison, on-demand streaming is more like deciding which Japanese city you are going to take the bullet train to. There is still a toll, and the experience might not be perfect, but you can easily leave when you get there if you don't like it.

 

[b4pjoe]

I'm surprised we haven't been told about Internet prices rising ... I'm sure they have ...

When fiber became available where I live i got 1 gb fiber up/down for $70 per month and they said that price is good for life. I am sure they have an out for that in the future though.

 

[Bruce]

When fiber became available where I live i got 1 gb fiber up/down for $70 per month and they said that price is good for life. I am sure they have an out for that in the future though.

That is what I am supposed to get also, if they ( Quantum Fiber) would quit delaying the install, now it is set for summer, about 9 months after the original installation date.

The good news is, instead of the 1000 down/up speed I was promised, now will receive 2000 up/down for the same price, if it ever happens.

 

[ncted]

When fiber became available where I live i got 1 gb fiber up/down for $70 per month and they said that price is good for life. I am sure they have an out for that in the future though.

If it is AT&T, it is for the life of the discount, meaning whenever they decide to cancel it which they did for me after a couple of years. That is what I had until Google came to the neighborhood. Now I have $70 gigabit again.