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YouTube TV would like to have a word with you. Working satellites hasn't been stopping subscribers from leaving. The "can't stream" crowd is shrinking every day. The "don't want to stream" crowd isn't going to be enough to keep cable and satellite TV services afloat.
My 82 year old neighbor got fed up with the high cost of everything. He cancelled Dish and his Spectrum internet and put up a Televes antenna on his roof that gives him about 50 channels. His monthly cost for entertainment? A grand total of zero dollars.
 
My 82 year old neighbor got fed up with the high cost of everything. He cancelled Dish and his Spectrum internet and put up a Televes antenna on his roof that gives him about 50 channels. His monthly cost for entertainment? A grand total of zero dollars.
Zero dollars and no internet service. That is great if you live where you can get OTA. I can get exactly zero channels via OTA.
 
First, DirecTV has only been trying their new Genre Packs for a few months, way too early to make a judgement.

Dish has been pushing Boost for 5 years, to a loss of 1.8M customers.
No, they haven't. They just started "pushing" it to existing customers by techs at truck rolls.
Now they're taking orders for tech-delivered phones, tablets, watches and sim cards.

Boost stores still don't have Dish signage.
They may have been bought in but they haven't been pushing anything
 
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Why be gone?

I work from home and like to have the news on mute in the background, it's nice to not have it eating up internet bandwidth. I have an owned Wally so no fees, OTA antenna for locals and with the $30/mo discount I think it's worth it. I love the service, but the content is lacking (not Dish's fault).
 
My 82 year old neighbor got fed up with the high cost of everything. He cancelled Dish and his Spectrum internet and put up a Televes antenna on his roof that gives him about 50 channels. His monthly cost for entertainment? A grand total of zero dollars.
As long as you can stomach the prescription, supplemental life insurance, you may be entitled to compensation, let's tell you about the scam called annuities, etc... ads. OTA can provide a huge amount of options, but the ads on some of these things can be brutal. As far as internet, my parents had signed up for a senior package that provides 10 Mbps for $20 or something. It sucks for updates, but to stream the FAST channels that are becoming common on new TVs, it is perfect.
 
I wonder how many subs (and thus how financially stable or not) Dish would be today if the networks hadn't price gouged them out of being able to offer competitive pricing to customers.
Except that same pricing has been offered to DirecTV, Comcast, Charter, etc.

Then we have the fact of YTTV gaining over 9 Million subscribers, in the same time period Dish lost almost 8 Million, which shows smaller, less expensive packages can work.

Everyone blames the Networks, but channels like ESPN and RSNs charge a much higher per sub fee.

But no matter what, it is still a new content issue, all of the new content on Broadcast/Cable Channels are on streaming services, along with all the new exclusive streaming shows and movies, with sports and news, for a much less expensive price along with the better video and sound ( for a small example, CBS shows are in 4K on Paramount+, but in bit starved 1080i on Paid Live TV, FX shows are in 4K on Hulu, 720P on Paid Live TV).

Dish and everyone else, can no longer compete any longer, hence why losses are increasing.
 
YouTube TV would like to have a word with you. Working satellites hasn't been stopping subscribers from leaving. The "can't stream" crowd is shrinking every day. The "don't want to stream" crowd isn't going to be enough to keep cable and satellite TV services afloat.
Youtube tv is just another iteration of cable and satellite...when you add in broadband it's not really cheaper
 
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The big plus of YouTube TV is you can subscribe when you want to watch TV and cancel it when you don't.
Thats the remaining reason I still get it when I need live tv.

It used to be for that reason and the price, but the price is relatively on par with other services now on a monthly basis.

Its cheaper overall for me though as I dont really need it half the year. If they ever went to a contract model, id drop it as well.
 
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Youtube tv is just another iteration of cable and satellite...when you add in broadband it's not really cheaper
That was a reply to someone that said, "Can't have subscribers without working satellites". Well Youtube TV, as well as other services, has TV subscribers without satellites. Even streamers are providing "TV" services.

I am sure there are some people that do not have any internet services but I believe the majority of the US population has internet even if they don't watch any TV.
 
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