Traditional/Streaming Live TV Providers Losses, 4th Quarter 2025 Edition

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Comcast just reported a loss of 245,000 TV Subscribers.

1.15 Million lost in 2025, for just them.

 
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To my surprise, Spectrum added a net 44,000 video subscribers in the 4th.

Verizon Fios TV lost 60,000.


 
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Verizon Fios TV lost 60,000.
My in-Laws were getting raked over the coals by Frontier FIOS by pricing its TV services higher and higher. New Frontier FIOS customers are being told to subscribe to YouTube TV. It's impossible for FIOS to gain TV customers.
 
My in-Laws were getting raked over the coals by Frontier FIOS by pricing its TV services higher and higher. New Frontier FIOS customers are being told to subscribe to YouTube TV. It's impossible for FIOS to gain TV customers.
Did they switch?
 
Did they switch?
In a way. The house was sold, and now it's Xfinity providing TV programming at the Assisted Living facility. My Mother-in-Law enjoys the Voice remote so she doesn't have to remember the different channel numbering.

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To my surprise, Spectrum added a net 44,000 video subscribers in the 4th.

Verizon Fios TV lost 60,000.


I know why Spectrum is losing internet subs. Yesterday I lost my internet around 12:29pm. I called the Spectrum number and the automated computer voice told me that several customers in my area were down and spectrum techs were on the site fixing the problem and no idea when it would be back. But they would text me once they are back up.

Around 2:41pm I got a text saying my service was restored. Except it was still down. So I called and they tested from their end and my modem was just down, need to set up a tech visit. I set it up for Saturday at 12:00pm. I then asked if they had someone working on the lines in our area like the recording said and he said no, my area which is a mobile home park, was up except me.

So I got off the phone and walked to the back yard of my next door neighbor and checked the cable box or tube in this case. It was not secured so I pulled it up and checked and there it was, my coax clearly marked on a tag #80 was not plugged into the connection. So I plugged it back in looked there was a connection that was from the house next door to this one was unplugged and was sticking out of the ground. So someone had cancelled Spectrum and they unhooked him and for some reason unplugged me too. I then put everything back in the tube and made sure I slid it down till it locked and now you have to have the key to reopen the tube.

I then called them back and told them what had happened and she asked me if I wanted to cancel my appointment for a service call. So I said of course, since I was the service tech today and isolated the problem and fixed it myself. So since someone from Spectrum had used their key to open and pull the plug then left it open. So from now on I will check that first.

Then I looked at my bill online because the first guy I talked to said he would credit my service for Friday, since I couldn't use my internet. Low and behold my bill was $5.00 MORE than the month before. Seems they eliminated the $5.00 Auto pay discount. I called up to ask why and he said it was a company wide decision for all customers. I said of course I had a discount promo for years now, that I renew each year and somehow the company always finds a way to get another $5.00 to $10.00 added to my bill regardless of the discount promo. He said I understand, but it is a company decision - nothing I can do. So I said I would be looking into ATT Fiber internet because they are only $59.00 for same internet that I am paying Spectrum $80.47 a month and will now be $85.45. He said I understand your decision, anything else I can do for you? Could care less if I churned or not.

So my new year's decision is to look at getting ATT fiber, since it is in my mobile home park anyway. That is my personal company wide decision. :rolleyes:
 
I know why Spectrum is losing internet subs. Yesterday I lost my internet around 12:29pm. I called the Spectrum number and the automated computer voice told me that several customers in my area were down and spectrum techs were on the site fixing the problem and no idea when it would be back. But they would text me once they are back up.

Around 2:41pm I got a text saying my service was restored. Except it was still down. So I called and they tested from their end and my modem was just down, need to set up a tech visit. I set it up for Saturday at 12:00pm. I then asked if they had someone working on the lines in our area like the recording said and he said no, my area which is a mobile home park, was up except me.

So I got off the phone and walked to the back yard of my next door neighbor and checked the cable box or tube in this case. It was not secured so I pulled it up and checked and there it was, my coax clearly marked on a tag #80 was not plugged into the connection. So I plugged it back in looked there was a connection that was from the house next door to this one was unplugged and was sticking out of the ground. So someone had cancelled Spectrum and they unhooked him and for some reason unplugged me too. I then put everything back in the tube and made sure I slid it down till it locked and now you have to have the key to reopen the tube.

I then called them back and told them what had happened and she asked me if I wanted to cancel my appointment for a service call. So I said of course, since I was the service tech today and isolated the problem and fixed it myself. So since someone from Spectrum had used their key to open and pull the plug then left it open. So from now on I will check that first.

Then I looked at my bill online because the first guy I talked to said he would credit my service for Friday, since I couldn't use my internet. Low and behold my bill was $5.00 MORE than the month before. Seems they eliminated the $5.00 Auto pay discount. I called up to ask why and he said it was a company wide decision for all customers. I said of course I had a discount promo for years now, that I renew each year and somehow the company always finds a way to get another $5.00 to $10.00 added to my bill regardless of the discount promo. He said I understand, but it is a company decision - nothing I can do. So I said I would be looking into ATT Fiber internet because they are only $59.00 for same internet that I am paying Spectrum $80.47 a month and will now be $85.45. He said I understand your decision, anything else I can do for you? Could care less if I churned or not.

So my new year's decision is to look at getting ATT fiber, since it is in my mobile home park anyway. That is my personal company wide decision. :rolleyes:
I suspect you'll have a much better experience with AT&T Fiber. I did for several years.

Meanwhile Google Fiber is increasing the base speed to 3Gbps and not raising the cost. It is hard to imagine anyone in my neighborhood still has Spectrum with two fiber options available that both cost less for better speed, lower latency, and better customer service.
 
I know why Spectrum is losing internet subs. Yesterday I lost my internet around 12:29pm. I called the Spectrum number and the automated computer voice told me that several customers in my area were down and spectrum techs were on the site fixing the problem and no idea when it would be back. But they would text me once they are back up.

Around 2:41pm I got a text saying my service was restored. Except it was still down. So I called and they tested from their end and my modem was just down, need to set up a tech visit. I set it up for Saturday at 12:00pm. I then asked if they had someone working on the lines in our area like the recording said and he said no, my area which is a mobile home park, was up except me.

So I got off the phone and walked to the back yard of my next door neighbor and checked the cable box or tube in this case. It was not secured so I pulled it up and checked and there it was, my coax clearly marked on a tag #80 was not plugged into the connection. So I plugged it back in looked there was a connection that was from the house next door to this one was unplugged and was sticking out of the ground. So someone had cancelled Spectrum and they unhooked him and for some reason unplugged me too. I then put everything back in the tube and made sure I slid it down till it locked and now you have to have the key to reopen the tube.

I then called them back and told them what had happened and she asked me if I wanted to cancel my appointment for a service call. So I said of course, since I was the service tech today and isolated the problem and fixed it myself. So since someone from Spectrum had used their key to open and pull the plug then left it open. So from now on I will check that first.

Then I looked at my bill online because the first guy I talked to said he would credit my service for Friday, since I couldn't use my internet. Low and behold my bill was $5.00 MORE than the month before. Seems they eliminated the $5.00 Auto pay discount. I called up to ask why and he said it was a company wide decision for all customers. I said of course I had a discount promo for years now, that I renew each year and somehow the company always finds a way to get another $5.00 to $10.00 added to my bill regardless of the discount promo. He said I understand, but it is a company decision - nothing I can do. So I said I would be looking into ATT Fiber internet because they are only $59.00 for same internet that I am paying Spectrum $80.47 a month and will now be $85.45. He said I understand your decision, anything else I can do for you? Could care less if I churned or not.

So my new year's decision is to look at getting ATT fiber, since it is in my mobile home park anyway. That is my personal company wide decision. :rolleyes:

Check out the 5G home services too, they really work great and are reasonably priced.
 
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I was shocked at how few of my neighbors took up Verizon FiOS when it became available. Most stuck with Cox.

Inertia.

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I was shocked at how few of my neighbors took up Verizon FiOS when it became available. Most stuck with Cox.

Inertia.
If what they have is reasonably priced and isn't giving them any problems, I can understand that. Spectrum on the other hand keeps raising prices and isn't that reliable around here.
 
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I added the T-Mobile about 2 years ago. Been streaming TV for less than a year. For $35 a month more than happy with the service.
Agreed! I added T-Mobile back in December 2023 and have not looked back on the Internet side of things. When I first added it, the speeds were 130-170 Mbps. Since last June when they did some upgrades in my area, the lowest speedtest I had is 324 Mbps, average is between 380-420 Mbps, with multiple speedtests hitting 450 Mbps.
 
Check out the 5G home services too, they really work great and are reasonably priced.
I have T mobile phones but my area doesn't get a good enough signal to have their service at my house. But Verizon and ATT might come in if they offer 5g. My personal experience with 5g its not all that. I often see my phone drop back to 4g on a regular basis in certain areas.
 
I have T mobile phones but my area doesn't get a good enough signal to have their service at my house. But Verizon and ATT might come in if they offer 5g. My personal experience with 5g its not all that. I often see my phone drop back to 4g on a regular basis in certain areas.

Location is important. If you're close enough to a tower with capacity, the 5G home services are the way to go and you don't have the issues you have with mobile devices. The radio used is much higher power than a phone because it can be larger and doesn't need to balance power usage due to a battery. It's also not moving around and switching from tower to tower.

I switched about 3 years ago and over all I find it faster and more reliable than my cable internet was. In fact, I switched because the cable internet kept dropping out during the day and Cox claimed it was the coax in my wall causing it. I ran new, high quality RG-6 when I did a remodel a few years earlier.

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