Gray Media Channels Return To Dish network

[Darrell S]

Apparntly all the locals hav been pulled? as none of them listed anymore, and no i did not remove locals from package

I still have mine except for the Gray channel in my market. You need to look online to see if it was a DIsh mistake that removed them from your account.

 

[dishdude]

I have an antenna, (not paying for locals) and the guide data is gone. Just says CHANNEL NOT AVAILABLE but of course it works. Just can't see what's on or DVR.

 

[Darrell S]

I have an antenna, (not paying for locals) and the guide data is gone. Just says CHANNEL NOT AVAILABLE but of course it works. Just can't see what's on or DVR.

I would use an antenna too, but I live to far away to get a dependable signal from a antenna.

 

[tsunami2311]

I still have mine except for the Gray channel in my market. You need to look online to see if it was a DIsh mistake that removed them from your account.

as far as I can tell CBS/NBC/FOX/ABC are gone, some of the other locals there. and I look at my account they charging for locals so they should be there, which was billed and payed not even 2 days ago

 

[HipKat]

Apparntly all the locals hav been pulled? as none of them listed anymore, and no i did not remove locals from package

Define "all locals"

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[telstar_1]

Peoria CBS and Fox affils still on. ABC & NBC are gray and still off.

 

[telstar_1]

Define "all locals"

Are you doing any offair antennae?

 

[tsunami2311]

NBC,FoX ABC CBS, never had WB/CW Mean while there some other local channels that are there, like QVC channesl and Fetv less those have never been local channels. Moot though I ask dad and he said he cancel locals, so I guess I will just take 25w off air anttena hook it to my tv, i mean fox is really the only channel I car about. untill I find the USB tunner for dish at price I will to pay for

 

[HipKat]

Peoria CBS and Fox affils still on. ABC & NBC are gray and still off.

And the CW, fwiw.
This is getting to the gone on long enough stage

 

[HipKat]

Are you doing any offair antennae?

Oh yeah, did three this week, one, outside of your town I drove a pole in the ground on the east side of her house, pointed it back in the direction of Ch 25 and picked up 53 channels!!

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[navychop]

Rare bird.

 

[telstar_1]

Oh yeah, did three this week, one, outside of your town I drove a pole in the ground on the east side of her house, pointed it back in the direction of Ch 25 and picked up 53 channels!!

Are they through DiSH work order?

 

[telstar_1]

NBC,FoX ABC CBS, never had WB/CW Mean while there some other local channels that are there, like QVC channesl and Fetv less those have never been local channels. Moot though I ask dad and he said he cancel locals, so I guess I will just take 25w off air anttena hook it to my tv, i mean fox is really the only channel I car about. untill I find the USB tunner for dish at price I will to pay for

What TV market? I've never heard of losing all locals to disputes at any given time. Maybe your programming got shut off?

 

[Mr Tony]

What TV market? I've never heard of losing all locals to disputes at any given time. Maybe your programming got shut off?

My market lost all the locals. GrayTV owns CBS, FOX and NBC in market (Mankato, MN). ABC is from Minneapolis and PBS is National feed. Other markets in same boat is Presque Isle, Maine, Parkersburg, WV. It's like Mankato. They own everything and no ABC in market.
Lima, Ohio lost everything as Gray owns all 4 nets
Same with Harrisonburg, Virginia. Gray owns all 4 nets. Subs only get PBS according to Dish site

 

[AZ.]

My market lost all the locals. GrayTV owns CBS, FOX and NBC in market (Mankato, MN). ABC is from Minneapolis and PBS is National feed. Other markets in same boat is Presque Isle, Maine, Parkersburg, WV. It's like Mankato. They own everything and no ABC in market.
Lima, Ohio lost everything as Gray owns all 4 nets
Same with Harrisonburg, Virginia. Gray owns all 4 nets. Subs only get PBS according to Dish site

This is the perfect storm and it should never have been allowed! Ridicules.

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[Mr Tony]

This is the perfect storm and it should never have been allowed! Ridicules.

My market (Mankato) was only CBS and FOX (subchannel) until 3 or so years ago. Gray got a low powered signal added with NBC and CW.
Presque Isle and Parkersburg same thing. It took Gray buying the station to add more than the basic. Presque isle was CBS and FOX and Parkersburg was just NBC.
Lima is 2 stations (full power and low power) and same owners before Gray
I don't care who owns the station. I want more variety on the antenna. Gray at least puts an effort in the smaller markets by adding nets on low powered stations. They've done that in other markets in MN where a station didn't cover the whole market. They've added low powered translators in parts of the markets.

 

[Jim5506]

I'm having what I think is a different problem with Grey owned locals.
Our channel 22.1 is CW, 22.2 is MyNetworkTV, 22.3 is True Crime all broadcast on RF 23 along with 22.4 which is Quest-E, 22.5 is QVCSD.
My Dish OTA tuner (actually an AirTV dual channel tuner, said to be same as DIsh tuner) will no longer display channels 22.1, 22.2 and 22.3. The others are still on the Dish (AirTV) tuner.
All of these channels come in strong and true on three TiVos.
Could Dish be blocking these minor channels from showing on my Dish tuner, would they be so devious.
I ordinarily do not watch any of them but this afternoon the NASCAR Xfinity car race is on CW, I tried to tune 22.1 and its not in the Dish guide where it has been in the past.
I could see the three channels on the screen where you select an OTA channel to be in the guide or not. They were there but would not display.
I rebooted my H3, and rescanned the channels. they show up in the in Guide channel list on the page where you select with strong signal (100) but when I Save and go to the guide, the three channels still do not display and cannot be tuned directly.
Channel 22-0 CW via satellite says channel not available because Gray Media has removed that channel, but has Dish also removed them from our OTA capability?
Anyone else seeing this phenomenon?

Here's another twist, I just checked my Joey4 in the living room - guess what, those 3 channels ARE THERE on the Joey. I guess Dish is not blocking them, or they forgot to block them on the Joey4.

Anyone have the Dish Network technical support phone number, I don't want to deal with a CSR?

On line with Dish tech support right now. They are as baffeled as I am. 7 OTA channels owned by Gray Media appear on my Joey 4 but not on my H3
It looks like those channels got locked out, probably by me but I don't remember doing that - problem solved.

 

[telstar_1]

I always found the DiSH pre-hopper OTA module to be lacking, both in ability to tune and in not getting all subch's. Is this a standalone aftermarket tuner that plugs into the hopper?

My market (Mankato) was only CBS and FOX (subchannel) until 3 or so years ago. Gray got a low powered signal added with NBC and CW.
Presque Isle and Parkersburg same thing. It took Gray buying the station to add more than the basic. Presque isle was CBS and FOX and Parkersburg was just NBC.
Lima is 2 stations (full power and low power) and same owners before Gray
I don't care who owns the station. I want more variety on the antenna. Gray at least puts an effort in the smaller markets by adding nets on low powered stations. They've done that in other markets in MN where a station didn't cover the whole market. They've added low powered translators in parts of the markets.

You sound like a shill for them. The now-ability of FCC spectrum-assigned nets & affils to charge multichannel providers (essentially to charge viewers whatever they'd like) to retransmit their otherwise freely delivered ad-supported broadcast signals is travesty 1, and travesty 2 is the concentration of ownership that's now permitted. Is there any limit whatsoever now on market monopolization?

So in the Mankato market previously to Gray's adding of NBC & CW, could you get those 2 from sat distant on basis of being in a "white area" for reception, or perhaps because of actually no market assignment? And now that they've been added locally, can they be received adequately offair given that they are at low power, throughout the Mankato DMA? As to Gray "putting in effort" to provide broadcast content not previously locally broadcast, one can only presume it was done for the profit in getting more eyeballs for the ads that support broadcast TV and to further extort cable/sat providers, and not simply out of the goodness of their hearts to create more access.

 

[AZ.]

My market (Mankato) was only CBS and FOX (subchannel) until 3 or so years ago. Gray got a low powered signal added with NBC and CW.
Presque Isle and Parkersburg same thing. It took Gray buying the station to add more than the basic. Presque isle was CBS and FOX and Parkersburg was just NBC.
Lima is 2 stations (full power and low power) and same owners before Gray
I don't care who owns the station. I want more variety on the antenna. Gray at least puts an effort in the smaller markets by adding nets on low powered stations. They've done that in other markets in MN where a station didn't cover the whole market. They've added low powered translators in parts of the markets.

Nope. Then they hold 100 other stations for hostage. Its BS and that kind of stuff was never allowed....So you wonder why all your locals are expensive on any platform.....Prices have skyrocketed for decades, for "free channels" if your lucky enough to get them. If not your just one of millions of other hostages!...........Thats why....Its we have/had Antitrust Laws!

 

[Mr Tony]

You sound like a shill for them.

nope. I just am happy we have more OTA option then when I moved here 5 years ago. When I moved to Mankato it was CBS and FOX. That was it. Now we have NBC, CW, a sports channel, CBS, FOX, Ion, Weather, 365Blk and Oxygen

So in the Mankato market previously to Gray's adding of NBC & CW, could you get those 2 from sat distant on basis of being in a "white area" for reception, or perhaps because of actually no market assignment?

we are a market. Market 199 out of 210. On satellite you got KSTP ABC and KARE NBC from Minneapolis before that. CW wasnt allowed as there was a "cable only" CW for years. Satellite still gets KSTP ABC since there is none in the market. KARE was dropped when KMNF launched.

And now that they've been added locally, can they be received adequately offair given that they are at low power, throughout the Mankato DMA?

yup. The main station is high up on the KEYC tower, some 25 miles south of Mankato. They added a translator at the KEYC studio in North Mankato to cover North Mankato and Mankato much easier. Our DMA is only 4 counties

As to Gray "putting in effort" to provide broadcast content not previously locally broadcast, one can only presume it was done for the profit in getting more eyeballs for the ads that support broadcast TV and to further extort cable/sat providers, and not simply out of the goodness of their hearts to create more access.

They are helping out folks who told satellite and cable to shove it due to the pricing skyrocketing for the same rerun crap. I do not have Dish. I use my antenna and have Hulu for ABC programming. There are stations on VHF that folks have issues with or the UHF station doesnt cover the area. So they have UHF translators so folks can get the stations. Great example is Rochester, MN. The Fox affiliate (KXLT) as example before Gray bought it didn't cover a fair amount of the market (mainly in Iowa). So when Gray bought the station they added a translator station in Mason City, IA which is part of the market.

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