Team Summit General Assembly Notes

[Smoky]

Greenville-Spartanburg,SC-Asheville,NC (#35) HD locals, When!!!!!

 

[jibaro29]

Just to clarify, the 18 months commitment will go away for every one or this is only for new costumers?"

These new offers are for new customers. Knowing E*, I don't think you can't get out of the 18 months commitment that easy.
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Given the opportunity to get out without penalty ...... I'll be gone in a second. It has to do with no HD locals. OTA HD works OK here but the minute we a have wind or rain the signal breaks up a lot. Do not take me wrong a like E* I just want my locals on HD.

 

[sfollenius]

Greenville-Spartanburg,SC-Asheville,NC (#35) HD locals, When!!!!!

My thought exactly seeing as how D* already has them!

 

[lakebum431]

Here is what is strange. Are the National HD channels going to be on the two sats too? Or are we going to have 1 sat for that and one for this other stuff.

 

[navychop]

Bingo! My question exactly. I'm leaving the second dish up anyway.

 

[MikeD-C05]

Here is what is strange. Are the National HD channels going to be on the two sats too? Or are we going to have 1 sat for that and one for this other stuff.

I've been asking that same question since post #7. I would hope that they don't intend on keeping hd national channels on 61.5 and 129 if they are saying that you can get everything with a simple 18 " dish. Maybe Scott left that out about national hd channels by mistake. IF only Scott could come back and clarify that question we could all get some satifaction.

Scott,where are the national hd channels moving to- if at all?

 

[gadgtfreek]

With two new sats as all Mpeg4, could you not have everything on those two? Thats the way I took it.

 

[navychop]

Depends upon the satellites and the transponder frequencies they have licensed.

 

[mdonnelly]

With two new sats as all Mpeg4, could you not have everything on those two? Thats the way I took it.

Somebody's gonna have to do the math. The unknowns are:
1) How many transponders per satellite,
2) How many spotbeams,
3) How many frequencies per spotbeam,
4) How many transponders to allocate to CONUS,
5) How many transponders to allocate to LIL.
6) How many channels per transponder.

 

[Poke]

I think there is chance that you can get everything on the MPEG4 Birds due to MPEG4 use less bandwidth. This is part of the reason some of the new HD Channels locals and National have been using MPEG4. But until everyone gets on MPEG4 they will half to support different setups until everyone makes the change. If you have MPEG4 receivers and once the 2 new MPEG4 Birds are up you should be able to get all of your programing just due to the fact MPEG4 is better. This is why folks on MPEG2 receivers like the 811 and 942 need to upgrade at some point and time. Every carrier will be going MPEG4 so at some point time everyone will have MPEG4. I think Scott showed some where on the boards where more channels could be carried on transponders when they were at MPEG4. I think it went from like 4 channels on one TP to Six channels on a TP but I could be mistaken.

 

[roachxp]

With two new sats as all Mpeg4, could you not have everything on those two? Thats the way I took it.

I think with thoses 2 new sat the local HD lil will be now on thoses 2 new sats (Charlie said 100 HD lil cities), and the nationals will now be on 129 for west coast, and 61.5 for east coast.

probably has time goese on the national HD channel will migrate 1 by 1 to the new sats and the SD ones are phased out over the years.


Scott or anyone what will be the new orbital location for the 2 new sats 110 + 119 or something else in that range?

 

[Poke]

Yeah at some point in the future we will be back to one format which will be HD and SD will go away. So carrying SD channels will not be a issue do to your Networks will make the switch over. Not that this will happen anytime soon but the day will come. So the need of carrying a SD version and a HD version of a channel will go away which will free up tons of space.

 

[gadgtfreek]

Yeah at some point in the future we will be back to one format which will be HD and SD will go away. So carrying SD channels will not be a issue do to your Networks will make the switch over. Not that this will happen anytime soon but the day will come. So the need of carrying a SD version and a HD version of a channel will go away which will free up tons of space.

Question is, once everything is HD and space is free, whats will they use the leftover space/sats for. Or will it be the end of their lifespan anyways?

 

[mdonnelly]

Question is, once everything is HD and space is free, whats will they use the leftover space/sats for. Or will it be the end of their lifespan anyways?

All the full-time HD RSNs, all the rest of the digital locals, more HD ppv, HD shopping channels, ...

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

Scott,where are the national hd channels moving to- if at all?

Nothing is moving. All will stay where it is. Dish is launching its MPEG4 service on its two new satellites. So folks with old receivers will see everything they have now for quite awhile...

Then they hope to move everyone to MPEG4 boxes and sloly phase out the MPEG2 stuff.

Now I should note I just spoke with Mark Jackson a few moments ago and he told me that Charlie was not supposed to announce the MPEG4 stuff yet. And he told me he really could not talk about it yet as up until today it was supposed to be "Top Secret"

 

[Poke]

Well just depends what is out at the time but this probably will not happen for many years to come. Well like I said in long run or even now folks should upgrade to MPEG4 when they can. Right now folks can not get some of the new channels and you would think Dish would have some good upgrade plans.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

With two new sats as all Mpeg4, could you not have everything on those two? Thats the way I took it.

Correct you could have EVERYTHING now and still have room for 70% more channels (including HD!)

MPEG4 is FINALLY works like it should, the bandwidth savings are real.

 

[MikeD-C05]

I sure hope that the new sat locations are still within the same range as the 110-129 sats so we could keep our existing dishes and not have to replace them. Then Dish could enable the software so the dish point meter will include the new sat location like they did for 118 sat. Imagine the rain fade beater a 1000.2 sat dish would be compared to a 18 " dish. IT would be much cheaper and cost efficient for Dish to do it that way than to replace all sat dishes AGAIN.

 

[MikeD-C05]

Nothing is moving. All will stay where it is. Dish is launching its MPEG4 service on its two new satellites. So folks with old receivers will see everything they have now for quite awhile...

Then they hope to move everyone to MPEG4 boxes and sloly phase out the MPEG2 stuff.

Now I should note I just spoke with Mark Jackson a few moments ago and he told me that Charlie was not supposed to announce the MPEG4 stuff yet. And he told me he really could not talk about it yet as up until today it was supposed to be "Top Secret"

So you are saying that all national hd channels will stay on 61.5 and 129 like today and that the two new mpeg4 satellites will move to the same locations as the mpeg 2 are today? Like a mpeg 2sat at 110 and a mpeg4 sat right next to it , and the same for 119? IF so then there is no reason to change out the sat dishes or to repoint them to another location.

 

[Jeff_R]

Does this mean the 622 will be able to decode and record my local HD QAM channels?

Nope. This is to allow HD channel distribution to multi-family developments. It will convert Dish programming to a QAM channel assignment, for distribution via coax cable instead of a necessary STB.