DISH HD Vip622 Menu Setup

Prezdisher:
Let us know when you get the HDMI, or component cables hooked up. I think you are in for a BIG surprise!!

Tom in TX
 
You *could* use the yellow/white/red cables as component cables, just make sure to match them on both ends. I've done it before in a pinch when a true component cable wasn't available. If they're good enough quality the only difference will be the colors of the plugs.

True, but then you will need to hook up something else for audio since the red and white cables will no longer be carrying that. But don't sweat it, just order the monoprice cable and you'll be good to go in a couple days. As far as the quality it will be just what you need. The more expensive ones are just that (more expensive), but nothing else.
 
For the HDMI cable that I am using on my Surround Sound DVD Upconverter, I bought a Monster HDMI cable from Best Buy that was around $70. Will the quality on the cheaper one above suffice?
Heh, it's only $4.50.... buy it and you tell us if it's any good. You've got a Monster Cable on hand to directly compare it against. That said, I believe you will REGRET buying it ..... buying the Monster Cable, that is.
 
If you choose to use the yellow/red/white as a component cable, don't use that as a permanent solution. The impedence of a video cable vs. an audio cable is different (video cables are 75 ohms) I would definitely go for the cheaper HDMI, the only difference you will see is in your wallet.
 
You *could* use the yellow/white/red cables as component cables, just make sure to match them on both ends. I've done it before in a pinch when a true component cable wasn't available. If they're good enough quality the only difference will be the colors of the plugs.

:eek: we here at satelliteguys do not condone such advice, j/k pepper you are right, but def only as a TEMP soloution, prez make sure you get your hdmi cable and let us know what you think as others have said you are in for quite a suprise!~
 
You *could* use the yellow/white/red cables as component cables, just make sure to match them on both ends. I've done it before in a pinch when a true component cable wasn't available. If they're good enough quality the only difference will be the colors of the plugs.

I think that the "wrong colors" on the cables definitely skews the colorimetry :D

Cheers,
 
If you choose to use the yellow/red/white as a component cable, don't use that as a permanent solution. The impedence of a video cable vs. an audio cable is different (video cables are 75 ohms) I would definitely go for the cheaper HDMI, the only difference you will see is in your wallet.

On the cheaper ones; they're usually all 75 ohm anyway.

At audio frequencies the impedance isn't that big of a deal.

Cheers,
 
It will work fine, even on a long-term basis. Tell us, what will be "wrong" ??

well Hall I am glad you asked, HDMI cables are far superior to composite, and are, in the opinon of many superior to Component cables (or composite cables turned into component) if someone has a empty HDMI slot and can use it for their Dish HD and get actual HD out of their dish network box, would you not want them to do so, and even encourage them to do so?

I must also say I enjoy the looks of just one cable going from the box to the tv, instead of a group of five.
 
I have the 56" version of your set. 1080i on the 622 looks a tad sharper to my eyes.

I think that the difference is so subtle that it is overwhelmed by one's own knowledge of which is which (i.e. power of suggestion).

So, I asked my wife which looked better between the 622 set to 720p and the 622 set to 1080i (without letting her know which was which), and she was quite sure that 720p looked better.

That is the native resolution of the set.

I think that it is best when one device is making conversions, rather than two devices.

Also, I have to think that ESPN, ABC and FOX have to look better when the 720p is not converted to 1080i and then back to 720p again.
 
I think that it is best when one device is making conversions, rather than two devices.

Also, I have to think that ESPN, ABC and FOX have to look better when the 720p is not converted to 1080i and then back to 720p again.

Yep. But if you have a 768 LCD- you just can't win! ;)
 
OK Guys, I went ahead and ordered the HDMI cable for $7 bucks or so which included shipping. I will let you know what everything looks like when I get it and hook it up, hopefully it won't take but a couple days to get here.

I appreciate all the help, but I hope you guys don't think I am an idiot. I pulled the TV out to check the cables that are connecting the 622 to the TV, and I did confirm those are component cables. Red, Green, and Purple/blue for Video, and Red and white for the audio. That being said, should I not be able to tell a difference between setting the picture from 480p to 720p in the menu? I swear to you, the PQ on the 480p does look like HD quality. I know 480p is not HD, but the difference between the two is not that much. Hopefully, the HDMI cable will allow me to tell a major difference.

Thanks again. I will let you know how it goes.
 
Widescreen 480? Stretched?

I don't recall ever seeing any truly shoddy component cables, but I've seen more than a few shoddily made composite cables.
 
Is that an explanation ?? How are they "far superior" ??

A hd signal can only be passed through HDMI/DVI or component cables, composite cables (when used as composite cables) can not pass a HD signal- that is how they are far superior Have you not been following this thread?
 
You just keep repeating the same thing but give NO technical explanation. An HD signal will not pass through the composite OUTPUTS of your receiver but if you connect composite cables to the component outputs, I assure you, it will be an HD signal that reaches your TV set. It's a copper wire.... Sure, a component cable has heavier conductor and "better" shielding, but for the typical 3 to 6' distance, do you really think the difference is visible ??
 
hall is right here. As long as you aren't talking about a long run and the composite cable isn't really low grade then it should be fine.
 
HAll instead of picking fights please read what the OP was saying, he could not tell if he was getting a HD signal, and mentioned he was using the standard cables (which could mean composite).....I then mentioned he was NOT getting a hD signal if he has composite cables (used in composite outputs) can not pass a hd signal...if you go back to my quote you will even notice I put yellow red and white with a question mark asking him.He then mentioned that he was going to get a HDMI cable as he had a extra HDMI slot, someone then mentioned that he could put his composite cable in the component cable slot and add a audio cable and he will be fine for a temp setup, I then quoted him and said we at satelliteguys do not condone this behavior, but it will be fine for a TEMP soloution, then asked him when he got his HDMI cable to use it-meaning dont stick with composite cables in the component slot, use that HDMI cable as it is the best connection he can get and IMO looks cleaner. Never ONCE did I say composite cables will not work as compnents. I have tried them and they do work. In the End he did have component cables and is getting a HDMI for $4 bucks (a pretty good price.) and again NEVER ONCE DID I SAY YOU CANT USE COMPOSITE CABLES. only HDHEAD said that, so why would I have to put scientific fact about why it wont work when I know it does? and why am I repeating myself? I didnt I just put the order of connections which is better then which, you are just taking it the wrong way. so instead of picking a fight and not reading what people wrote, actually take your time and read what they wrote, it helps out in the end, dosent make you seem like such a meany :)
 
hall is right here. As long as you aren't talking about a long run and the composite cable isn't really low grade then it should be fine.

he is right, about what he is saying, he is just quoting the wrong person and not realizing what I wrote. :)

I even wrote that he is right about using composite cables in the component slot, so I am confused as to why Hall is calling me out.
 
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HAll instead of picking fights please read what the OP was saying, he could not tell if he was getting a HD signal, and mentioned he was using the standard cables (which could mean composite).....I then mentioned he was NOT getting a hD signal if he has composite cables (used in composite outputs) can not pass a hd signal...if you go back to my quote you will even notice I put yellow red and white with a question mark asking him.He then mentioned that he was going to get a HDMI cable as he had a extra HDMI slot, someone then mentioned that he could put his composite cable in the component cable slot and add a audio cable and he will be fine for a temp setup, I then quoted him and said we at satelliteguys do not condone this behavior, but it will be fine for a TEMP soloution, then asked him when he got his HDMI cable to use it-meaning dont stick with composite cables in the component slot, use that HDMI cable as it is the best connection he can get and IMO looks cleaner. Never ONCE did I say composite cables will not work as compnents. I have tried them and they do work. In the End he did have component cables and is getting a HDMI for $4 bucks (a pretty good price.) and again NEVER ONCE DID I SAY YOU CANT USE COMPOSITE CABLES. only HDHEAD said that, so why would I have to put scientific fact about why it wont work when I know it does? and why am I repeating myself? I didnt I just put the order of connections which is better then which, you are just taking it the wrong way. so instead of picking a fight and not reading what people wrote, actually take your time and read what they wrote, it helps out in the end, dosent make you seem like such a meany :)

And I thank you for actually pointing out the colors like you did. Made more sense to me when I looked at the actual connetion. Moral of the story: I sure do hope this HDMI cable makes a difference. Thanks to everyone
 

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