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What is the 19.199 deal anyway?

Ditto!

My god, can you imagine what a piece of crap this will be for the 1st 3 years of it's existence (if it makes it that long). They can't even release a stable stand alone box, think they will nail this the 1st 5xs out. Good luck!

Yep, after last Charlie chat reports and this, no regrets about going back to Cablevision for my TV needs.

Me too!

Where did you see anything about Dish SERIOSULY trying to offer local HD via Sattelite? Only Direct is.

Much happier with me cable Dumped Dish end of Feb and went back to Cablevision. While the 8300HD DVR may not have as polished a user interface as some of the Dish DVR's, it works great for me. PQ is noticeably better on all channels, not washed out on my Sony kv32hs420, even analog lok decent...

Altho I had not really had too many negative issues with CS, I voted my displeasure with Dish using my Checkbook. They no longer get $120/month from me. Nor will they in the near future. Cable has my business now and depneding on how d LOOKS (HARDWare price wise) when they roll out Mpeg4, they...

When I canceled they told me that the 301 I won and the 811 which I leased had to go back to them. I said, No I won the 301 and lease the 811 and 522. hey said no, you own the 522. I said, ok. Called back 3xs to confirm and they even gave me the receiver #'s to send back. Could not convince...

Now that was funny!!!! Oh, I took your advice, went to cable with HD DVR lease of $10 /month (no 250 to lay out on top of that). Cable for 1st year with top package is cheaper AND will be same price after 1st year. More HD (3xs more) and generally better PQ on rest of channels (digital and...

I don't disagree with that, but their TV service and hardware blow Dish away!

I am dumped Dish for cable and could NOT be happier. I wasn't waiting around for more HD from Charlie ('cause they ain't gonna be any for a while). Oh yeah, I also have a dual tuner HD dvr that I did not have to lay out $250 to "lease"

I would be surprised if the deal even gets done at all. I wouldn't hold my breath!

Funy, when cable upgrades their boxes, I do not have to buy a new one.

Impossible OCaddict? You are WRONG! It most certainly is possible and is real!

Boy am I glad Cablevision is coming tomorrow to install gold package with HD PVR. E is looking worse and worse by the day. man, I was soo happy with them a few years ago. Damn Shame!

Agree 1000% dcarpa altho I am the one who is fed up with crappy 811 (mine as bad as others0, but REALLY unhappy with 522 software. Can not watch a playback of recorded (or timeshifted for that matter) program without audio constantly dropping out. Tons of lockups when just switching channels too.

ha, I am a sucker too. I am dumping Dish and going back to cable this week. I figured it out, CHARLIE is BFG on the board. Oh, OCADDICT is the "sucka", you gettin less HD :-) Stick with Dish, pay more, to get less!

dcarpa, cablevision your provider? If so, I imagine you are enjoying it a lot over Dish?

Said same thing last year. Good thing I am making the switch before baseball season :-)

Normal pricing is the same as I am paying now with Dish + broadband. When cable TV goes to normal pricing, then it will be exactly the same as I pay now for them both. 1st year promo saves me $60/mopnth. What make su think Dish is so much cheaper?-Cablevision IO gold-$90/month 3 digital...

Well, My stint (4 yrears or so), with Dish is over. Cablevision is coming this Fri to install and HD-PVR and 2 digital boxes. 1st year I save about $50/60-month including Cable modem. After that, net is around the same, BUT I will have an HD DVR, anf roughly 16 HD channels. I am going from...

Congrats on staying with Dish. Next week will be my lst. Cable being installed on the 18th.

The lack of all of the SD channels kept me away. Like others have said, I couldn't afford to keep Dish for the basic channels, then pay for Voom as well. That being said, I am jumping to Cablevision cable end of this month. More HD channels, Lease of an HD DVR (which is supposed to be MUCH...

Hey, Bobmurdoch, where in Jersey are ya? I grew up in monmouth cty (parents still live their). I am in north Jersey now, 16 miles for the towers and CAN NOT pull in any locas OTA using an indoor silver sensor. I rebnt, so can't throw anything on rof or in addic.