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Walker1
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Last reply · posted in General Home Theater Equipment
Hi, I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I have a recording problem with either HBO, C-cast, both of them, or is this a joke??

I bought a Sony HD TV 6 weeks ago. I have HBO and an SA-8300 HD DVR from C-cast. Sometimes I'm too tired to watch shows so I record the movie or show from HBO on Demand onto a Sony RDR-GX7 recorder. I have 2 of them and NEITHER have inputs for componant cords. I have componant cords in the OUTPUT jacks to the TV on one of them. The other is the standard hook up- yellow RCA for video & red & white for sound. Neither recorder has an input for a HDMI connector. I tried playing the recorded film in both recorders and 2 Sony play back decks and got the same strange message. I'm also unable to set up a recording with the SA-8300/DVR from any On Demand ch. I also tried pressing the record button on the DVR when starting an On Demand film and it doesn't work. I could swear that a few weeks ago I could do that.

The on screen message reads: "Your HDTV does not support HDCP. Please disconnect the HDMI connector and use the YPrPb connection to continue watching TV". What the heck is this? I never heard of HDCP until I saw this message. The film plays with sound, but the picture is blocked with this idiotic message. Can someone who knows what this is and how to make recordings play properly please give me a hand??

I do have players that are hooked up exactly how this message states and they don't lose the message. I am sending a picture of this message. All help is appreciated.:confused:
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Your Sony RDR-GX7 recorder has component out (YPbPr)
http://www.laaudiofile.com/images/rdrgx7b.jpg

Your SA-8300 HD has DVI out (electrically the same as HDMI, sans sound).
Can use an DVI-HDMI cable.

HDCP is High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection
High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What is the model of the TV set you bought? Is it a CRT?
I have not seen a TV in few years that had not a component input.

If you TV set is CRT, it won't have neither HDMI nor DVI connectors and you would have to use component.
Component is not protected by HDCP and should work.

If your TV is digital (LCD/Plasma/LCoS, Sony doesn't do DLP), it must have DVI and/or HDMI.
If the TV is over 2 years old, it might not support HDCP.

You are interested in output connectors on your recorders/DVR/PVR and input connectors on the TV.

I have no experience with your programming/recorders (I'm from Canada), but the first
question you have to answer is: are those channels allowed to be recorded?

Diogen.
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As Diogen stated, you are probably restricted from copying this program...and if it can be seen on your tv, you "could" copy it.
Check out this link concerning HBO on demand.
HBO Online: Corporate Info : FAQ - HBO Application of CGMS-A Copyright Protection<br><br>
Good luck,
Harold
Walker1
As Diogen stated, you are probably restricted from copying this program...and if it can be seen on your tv, you "could" copy it.
Check out this link concerning HBO on demand.
HBO Online: Corporate Info : FAQ - HBO Application of CGMS-A Copyright Protection<br><br>
Good luck,
Harold

Thanks. This explains why I have the problem. Like I said many times: Big corporations are NEVER satisfied- they always want billions of $$$ more. GREED is a most undesirable & disgusting way to fleece honest hard working Joe's who only will use copies for their own personal use. HBO should be ashamed!:mad:
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Yeah... DRM sucks...
But it doesn't look like it is going away any time soon...

I thought that even premium channels had the copy flag set to "copy once". Guess they switched to "copy never".

Diogen.
Walker1
Yeah... DRM sucks...
But it doesn't look like it is going away any time soon...

I thought that even premium channels had the copy flag set to "copy once". Guess they switched to "copy never".

Diogen.

I unplugged the HDMI cable & plugged in componant cords. No more nasty little message, all is well.:) My recorders aren't HD anyway. It's in the TV & that expensive HDMI cable.
Larry1
Your SA-8300 HD has DVI out (electrically the same as HDMI, sans sound).
Can use an DVI-HDMI cable.


If you TV set is CRT, it won't have neither HDMI nor DVI connectors and you would have to use component.
Component is not protected by HDCP and should work.


I have no experience with your programming/recorders (I'm from Canada), Diogen.

I'm from Canada too... My TV set is a CRT (tube) and it has a HDMI connector. I have the Rogers HDPVR SA-8300HD, it has a HDMI connector, not a DVI connector. If I try to record from the analog video out without the tv on, I get a similar message. If I push the ok key, the message goes away and all is fine. If the TV is on when the recording takes place, the video is fine. If the HDMI cable is not plugged in then the recording is fine. This is due to the HDMI handshaking proceedure between the cable box and the TV. When the cable box is turned on, it senses the TV connected to the HDMI port and wants to handshake. If the handshake fails, the video to the TV is blocked. Unfortunately, the error message is displayed on the analog outputs of the cable box as well. Sometimes if I power my cable box and TV on in the wrong sequence, I will not get any signal from the HDMI port. Turning off and on again or unplugging the HDMI cable and plugging it back in again gets the signal back. If you do no not use the HDMI port, then there is no digital connection, just analog connection and then there is no handshaking.
Walker1
I'm from Canada too... My TV set is a CRT (tube) and it has a HDMI connector. I have the Rogers HDPVR SA-8300HD, it has a HDMI connector, not a DVI connector. If I try to record from the analog video out without the tv on, I get a similar message. If I push the ok key, the message goes away and all is fine. If the TV is on when the recording takes place, the video is fine. If the HDMI cable is not plugged in then the recording is fine. This is due to the HDMI handshaking proceedure between the cable box and the TV. When the cable box is turned on, it senses the TV connected to the HDMI port and wants to handshake. If the handshake fails, the video to the TV is blocked. Unfortunately, the error message is displayed on the analog outputs of the cable box as well. Sometimes if I power my cable box and TV on in the wrong sequence, I will not get any signal from the HDMI port. Turning off and on again or unplugging the HDMI cable and plugging it back in again gets the signal back. If you do no not use the HDMI port, then there is no digital connection, just analog connection and then there is no handshaking.

Thanks, but I now have Dish & am very happy.
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Scott Greczkowski
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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ewindowman
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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Bruce
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For your viewing pleasure...
comfortably_numb
For your viewing pleasure...

That's ok, I'm sure Verizon will be happy to take them.
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That's ok, I'm sure Verizon will be happy to take them.
That's ALL Verizon needs.....more congested towers :mad:
comfortably_numb
That's ALL Verizon needs.....more congested towers :mad:

They don't care... they're milkin' the cow. Buddying up with Elon to provide him an MVNO network will make their investors and shareholders salivate. All of their recent marketing efforts have failed, so this move makes a lot of sense.
fmj77
Mr. Morris is no journalist. That article reads like a political hit job.
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That's ok, I'm sure Verizon will be happy to take them.
Yep, they could stick it in with thier other dozen or so MVNO's, including the five they own.
b4pjoe
Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in Computers and Gadgets
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harshness
Given that Tubi is one of the hottest FAST services out there, I don't expect it to go anywhere. Building up intolerance for ads takes a while, and as long as the advertisers are willing to foot the bill, why not?
dishstaller
Building up intolerance for ads takes a while, and as long as the advertisers are willing to foot the bill, why not?
That is what I have to explain to customers all the time. They want it free with no ads :facepalm
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Hmmm. Not watching much Prime, but it would be on our Apple TV STB.

You know of any drawbacks using Ultra and Prime?
osu1991
Hmmm. Not watching much Prime, but it would be on our Apple TV STB.

You know of any drawbacks using Ultra and Prime?
Prime seems to have a problem passing the DV/HDR metadata to Roku and Apple devices, but no problem with their Fire devices.
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Juan
That is what I have to explain to customers all the time. They want it free with no ads :facepalm
The ads are boring and repetitive...same ad over and over...bring back 1970s ads..might not be as big an issue
HipKat
Shouldn't this thread be in the IPTV forum?
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The ads are boring and repetitive...same ad over and over...bring back 1970s ads..might not be as big an issue
Had a customer come in a couple weeks ago to pay her internet bill. She let me know in no uncertain terms that she did NOT appreciate me running the same ads over and over. I looked at her and waited for her to laugh and say she was just joking.......still waiting for that laugh.
osu1991
Shouldn't this thread be in the IPTV forum?
There is one there too. I would think either is justifiable as they make both the device and provide a streaming program service.

Ramy
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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A lot of upsets yesterday, but my LSU Tigers won.
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Parity is growing in College Football. Making it even harder to tell who is better than each other.
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Parity is growing in College Football. Making it even harder to tell who is better than each other.
I agree to a point. The transfer policy is creating parity, but only for the top 20-25 teams. The other 110+ teams in the FBS are just breeding grounds for the bigger schools which have more money and more recruiting appeal.

If a smaller school recruits, trains, and matures a quality player, they can't keep them past their sophomore year because the bigger schools snatch them up. Example: LSU didn't cultivate Sam Leavitt, they just harvested him from other schools. LSU is a top contender, in large part because of Leavitt. Michigan State and Arizona State.................are not. If either of those schools had been able to retain his services, who knows where they would be now.
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A lot of upsets yesterday, but my LSU Tigers won.
Coach says afternoon game result of SEC "conspiracy". The rivalry game vs. Ala. will kick off in the afternoon at Baton Rouge rather than at night, which head coach Lane Kiffin says is intentional in order to neutralize fan craziness and noise, which is believed to help lead to wins for squads playing at home. "Obviously the SEC wanted to change this year from how it had been to give LSU less advantage, (considering) how well LSU plays at night and how intimidating it is to play here. So I guess when I look at it that way, I'm not surprised."

But he's come up with an ingenious solution. "Go to bed earlier Fri. night, then start your day earlier. Have breakfast earlier. Start drinking earlier. Whatever your routine is, just move it up."

Meantime ads have been running for a "Protect College Sports Act" moving through Congress.
Bruce
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

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Optimum, which bought up our previous cable company, Suddenlink (originally COX), replac ed all of their coax disdribution with Fiber several years ago. They ran new fiber links to the house, but installed RFOG (RF over glass) devices on the outside of the house, which makes the house coax system look like a cable system. They used DOCSIS modems and of course we had the same assymetric bandwidth of cable internet. When I called them a couple years ago, and said I had installed a connection to the local Fiber provideer, MetroNet, They panicked and offered me the 300 MBit "Fiber powered" cable service for $20 per month. They were bleeding customers. I cancelled my Metronet and went with the $20 deal for a year, even though I didn't like the old cable technology.

Then T-moble Fiber struck a deal with Metronet Fiber where T-mobile would take over the marketing, billing and customer relations for residential Customers. They offered a "Founders Deal" for 2 Gigabit service, symmetric speeds, for $70 per month for new customers. That included all taxes and fees and was guaranteed for 10 years. I couldn't resist. That deal is no longer offered, but I am set for 9 more years.

Now the successor to the old local telephone company, Brightspeed has also installed a modern Fiber system in the neighborhood, but won't be getting my business. But their Fiber technology is also superior to Optimums cable based system.

With Fiber competition, the cable companies are eventually doomed.
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Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.
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Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.
similar situation. almost every neighborhood around me has fiber, but our 3 block area. I called AT&T and was like, how hard is it to bring fiber over about 200 feet (I am closest to the folks with fiber and can see it on the poles from my front door); crickets and very frustrating.
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similar situation. almost every neighborhood around me has fiber, but our 3 block area. I called AT&T and was like, how hard is it to bring fiber over about 200 feet (I am closest to the folks with fiber and can see it on the poles from my front door); crickets and very frustrating.
"Business Intelligence" is more of an oxymoron than Military Intelligence.
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TRG
Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.
I have gigabit fiber in an underground box on my property. But it's not lit up yet so I'm stuck with copper too. For now anyway.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
After a strange reboot last night in the middle of viewing, this morning several more reboots and about a half an hour download.
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Almighty1
Just did the update check manually about an hour ago with Hopper 3 on H713 and Hopper Plus on P15403.
Noticed something new when I clicked on the Update Software, it presented a pop-up as follows:
"Update software 1573
Update later Update now Cancel" with those three buttons which did not exist before.

After updating the H715 - I guess there must be major bugs as both H709 and H714 were skipped.

So here are the issue(s):

Issue #1
It did fix the problem with H713 which was:
"One of the problems I am seeing is that the Available Joey Software section no longer is showing the Android TV versions even after a manual software reset twice and the nightly reboot. Until it does, nether Technician Android TV download and Hopper Plus is able to check, download and update the Android TV software."

This was a major problem with H703.

H710 removed that dependency so H711 and H712 were working without that dependency but H713 brought it back which is fixed in H715 as no P versions or Android TV versions are shown in the Available Joey Software on the main Diagnostics screen.
However, with that said, the TECHNICIAN SETTINGS, Download ATV (Android TV) Files is not working correctly as the Download ATV Files shows:
"Download ATV Files 3000
Download in progress. This operation will be
complete when the files are downloaded

Joey 4 : P554- Failed
Joey 4 : P55403- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P654- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P65403- Complete
HopperPlus : P154- Complete
HopperPlus : P15403- Failed

OK"
From what I can tell, each of them goes through the Downloading followed by the Processing stages first before it goes into the Failed or Complete stage. It seemed to be going in a loop earlier as it will start downloading from the first item being the Joey 4 each time before it eventually stopped. This is the first time ever since 2023 that I had ever seen it Failed.

With that said, the dependency appears to still be required for the Hopper Plus to check, download and update the Android TV software as it says Failed, No Target when going to "Device Preferences", About, "Software Update"

Issue #2
Still cannot cast to Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus(Software P15317) with the Hopper Plus "Google Chromecast Built-In" feature" as it shows up as a casting device when the Hopper Plus is online and disappears when the Hopper 3 and Hopper Plus does it's nightly reboots but times out when one tries to cast to it and always shows up as Not available in the Google Home app on Android phone. No one else anywhere on the internet had confirmed whether it is working for them or not. Per brittanygarden in DM on October 16, 2026:
"We've been working with Google on this. We have a fix on the Google side projected for Q4. I know we're in Q4 now, but I will try to get a narrowed down timeline for you."

brittanygarden and Rick Durham

jsmit86 and naptime - If you are able to use H715, does the issue mentioned below still exist?
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