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jcrandall
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I wanted to contribute and thought of something new that may be liked, and well, I guess may not be liked :)

Anyway, I thought a summary of quotes from the investor call that pertained to the sub may be of interest, so here goes:

The majority of the call was Chase Carey, D* CEO, who also received a 3 year contract extension today.

Transcript of quotes from: Earnings Call Transcript


I'll try to organize them for you:


THE COMING HD EXPANSION:

Everything is going well with our new satellite, which launched about a month or so ago.

{Costs} In terms of HD rollout, it will not have an impact. We are looking to get the HD channels as part of what we would expect as part of a relationship on the standard def channels, so we do not -- we will not have a programming cost increase related to HD.

{Channel Agreements } Today we have agreements in place with about 90 channels, and continuing to work on more so we are adding to that. We will launch with an HD package with over 70 channels around the end of the third quarter. Again, the difference there is some of the channels need a couple more months to get their HD stream online, and we do expect over the coming months, between the end of the third quarter and the end of the year, we'll get to the 100 channels that we talked about. So we will launch with really a fabulous HD package, the 70-plus channels and then over a couple of months build to the 100 channels that really we think will define us in a unique way competitively in the marketplace.


The first part we said the satellite that is up will get us something like 70 at launch, 100 by the end of the year. The second satellite, which will go up in the second half of the year, will give us the full capacity we talked about of 150 channels, plus a ton of local markets, virtually all of them if we chose to. So that hasn't changed and that will be where we will be kind of the middle of next year on a capacity standpoint.


{No significant increase in programming costs for D* to provide us more HD}
In terms of HD rollout, it will not have an impact. We are looking to get the HD channels as part of what we would expect as part of a relationship on the standard def channels, so we do not -- we will not have a programming cost increase related to HD.

VOD:

The other major content event during the second half will be the launch of our initial VOD offer in the fall. This VOD offer, which will use both the hard drive and broadband connection, and will be we think really will be a truly distinctive and exciting new feature. We believe customers will find its easy-to-use characteristics, which is something we focused a lot on, and attractively packaged offering will really be uniquely attractive and differentiated from others out there.

What it really is going to be, from a broadband perspective, is a product that is much more integrated into the television. I mean, you can get products -- it is going to integrate the broadband and our product, we're going to push down to the disc, integrate it into the guide and integrate it into the customer experience in a different way, in a much more user-friendly and easy-to-access way. That really is what it does, is it takes it, and as opposed to being able to get it and then figure out how you get it, it is going to really take those offerings and put them on the screen, make them available to our customers in a way that they can get at it just like they get at channels today, and promote it and package it in a way that is truly attractive to them and educate consumers on it. So it will really become a much more, for the customers that get it a much more central, sort of core part of the DIRECTV experience for the customers who value that.

it's probably enriched from today but it is an ongoing process. And ultimately through the -- you've got a lot of -- you have lots, you have hundreds of titles. I don't know, maybe -- but it is a wide, wide range of selection.

Again, what we are trying to do, and I think it is the right way, is I think right now VOD is not a very -- I don't think the way VOD has been done, it has been done with a prioritization of sort of ease of use and consumer friendliness. It's sort of been there, go find it. What we are going to try and do is package, present, and organize this in a way that is much more user-friendly and therefore it is one that consumers find, as they try to learn how to use it, a much more rewarding experience but with a rich, with a truly rich set of choices but one that you can whip through and figure out what do you really want to watch.


EQUIPMENT:
{Advanced equip means SD DVR, HD, and HD-DVR}
if you take the number of new customers taking an advance product in Q207, it was more than 70% greater than those that were taking it Q206.

the number of existing customers upgrading to an HD DVR in Q207 was up almost four-fold versus a year ago.

Between now and year end, the HD DVR box cost will decrease about $100 per box. The HD box cost will reduce about $50 per box before year end {Not indicative of a price reduction, this is their cost reduction}


COMPETITION:

Looking toward the second half of 2007, clearly our headline event will be our launch of really what will be the best and largest selection of HD channels that customers ever imagined, which will really enable us to leapfrog our competition. Everything is going well with our new satellite, which launched about a month or so ago.

There is no question it's an increasingly competitive marketplace but we really feel good about where we are positioned and think we've got a lot of wind at our back as we go forward competing in the marketplace.


In terms of Dish and DIRECTV {working together}, I'm not sure there's a whole lot of insight to give. We have been talking to Dish, certainly not just the last few quarters but the last couple of years. We've done a few, we've done some things that we haven't -- we back {haul} -- a fair number of standard def signals to get today.
I don't think this is a dramatic change and I think it's really just part of an ongoing process

HOMEZONE type products:
I mean, the set-top box exists today so it is really working through some of the software and working through some of the distribution issues with some of our partners. But I think from a technological perspective, the box is really a box we could deploy in the next quarter. So it is really more probably the logistics around the distribution of the box with the appropriate partners to make it happen.

But our boxes are going to have, like VOD, which we are launching in the next couple of months, will in essence have broadband connectivity to it. We have set-top boxes that can integrate a PC and a TV today.

In many ways, the technological and software issues around it are largely there. It is really probably more working through the business issues around distribution with an array of partners.


OTHER:

Retention and upgrade spending was down significantly from the first quarter of '07 {There were less D* giving me the farm threads this quarter :)}

{Success of their marketing campaign in prep for the HD launch:}
In terms of HD, look, I think the campaign we have launched -- I mean, it's been to really communicate to the marketplace what we had coming in HD has been successful. I mean, and I think to some degree, I guess a best estimate would be to the degree you look at how our competitors have spent an awful lot of energy in the last three or four months trying to refute or muddy the waters about the advantages we are going to have. So I think it has been successful. I think it is tough to track.
Source: DIRECTV Investor Relations
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skysurfer
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{Costs} In terms of HD rollout, it will not have an impact. We are looking to get the HD channels as part of what we would expect as part of a relationship on the standard def channels, so we do not -- we will not have a programming cost increase related to HD.


Source: DIRECTV Investor Relations

I am sure the HD costs will be incorporated into next year's subscriber price increases, rather than its own line item or package. Satellites aren't free and DIRECTV is going to have to produce revenue from DIRECTV-10 and 11 somehow (and to set aside some money for future satellite construction and operation).
mdernst
I am sure the HD costs will be incorporated into next year's subscriber price increases, rather than its own line item or package. Satellites aren't free and DIRECTV is going to have to produce revenue from DIRECTV-10 and 11 somehow (and to set aside some money for future satellite construction and operation).

True but there's more than one way to increase revenue. Hopefully that additional revenue comes from additional subscribers (VOLUME) as opposed to significantly raising prices on exisiting subscribers.

Mike
vurbano
True but there's more than one way to increase revenue. Hopefully that additional revenue comes from additional subscribers (VOLUME) as opposed to significantly raising prices on exisiting subscribers.

Mike
They will raise prices. The statement was just to encourage subs to sign 2 year contracts. Once you are signed up you have no choice but to endure the price increase.
I
So sad. All the discussion and NO mention of Picture Quality. So sad.
L
They will raise prices. The statement was just to encourage subs to sign 2 year contracts. Once you are signed up you have no choice but to endure the price increase.

It is a virtual guarantee. Every year they say they aren't going to do that, yet they always do. That's why my account is currently suspended with an aim to cancel.
Jimbo
It is a virtual guarantee. Every year they say they aren't going to do that, yet they always do. That's why my account is currently suspended with an aim to cancel.

D* did not say there would not be a price increase for HD, they said there would not be one THIS YEAR ...
Everyone thats NOT new knows that there is a price increase of some sort every March.... also, when looking at the increases compaired to my local Cable Co. the increase is not nearly as much as Cable.

Jimbo
Jimbo
So sad. All the discussion and NO mention of Picture Quality. So sad.

I have a feeling that PQ will be talked about alot once the new sats are up and operational and people have a chance to see how good thier picture looks compaired to what it was.

Of course then the D* bashers will be back out in full force, many of them that don't even have D*, I'm sure they will have thier opinion.

Jimbo
atp1313
I have a feeling that PQ will be talked about alot once the new sats are up and operational and people have a chance to see how good thier picture looks compaired to what it was...

Jimbo
With very few exceptions, we won't be able to do a side-by-side comparison since the new HD channels will only display on new receivers. Only existing channels will be comparable, and that's only if they mirror them in MPEG2...which we all assume they will do. We will just have to remember the "bad ole days" and looking lovingly upon the new signals and think about how our kids will never believe us when we say, "when I was your age, we actually had to use antennas to see HD...and it was only in MPEG2" ;)
J
I am sure the HD costs will be incorporated into next year's subscriber price increases, rather than its own line item or package. Satellites aren't free and DIRECTV is going to have to produce revenue from DIRECTV-10 and 11 somehow (and to set aside some money for future satellite construction and operation).


They also have D12.;)
TheForce
I didn't see the topic of "HD Lite" or rather compressed soft looking HD picture addressed in this write up of the investors call but I decided to do some A/B testing on my own this past weekend.

The channels selected are those that can be received on both Dish and Directv with MPG2, not MPG 4 because I don't have an MPG 4 capability with DirecTV yet.

It appears that DirecTV has much improved their picture quality as they now look nearly identical to Dish Picture quality on HDNET, HDNET MOvies and Discovery HD. ESPN looks a bit softer yet. On Dish Network the new VOOM channels and other known MP4 all look sharper than any of the DirecTV MP2 channels (Apples to Oranges)

So, in my opinion, this age old argument of soft HD PQ on DirecTV is over. From reports, I'd have to assume that the images on DirecTV MP4 are even better. This is all good news for everyone. The message of quality has not been forgotten in this race for quantity.

Also, please understand that I am only viewing on a 720P x 1280 native monitor with 120" full screen, so any resolution beyond that is lost anyway.

When D* finally delivers on it's promise of 100 channels and E* fails to compete, I will then look into flipping my primary service back to D* including the new HR20. Currently I plan to remain with E* who is delivering and has good equipment.
KAB
KAB
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
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Just finished S2. Watching Gary Oldman as deshvilved, dejected MI-6 agent, Jackson Lamb, is one of the best things streaming right now. Already 2 more seasons in the works. HIGHLY recommended. And yes, Mick Jagger sings the theme.
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Foxbat
Mrs. Foxbat and I are enjoying another great season so far. We only had to turn on the captions a few times.
KAB
KAB
Mrs. Foxbat and I are enjoying another great season so far. We only had to turn on the captions a few times.
I think this new season is a little too slow of a burn (as of ep #4, probably due to new show runner. However, I can't wait to find out what's up with Taverner!
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KAB
Well, the season finale went balls to the wall. Non stop action and several twisted twists. Gary Oldman at his best. Very well written and executed. Tavener owes Jackson big time. Only "if" was Jack Lowden's (River) cliffhanger, especially admin-st the buzz that he is the next James Bond in waiting.
K
Planning to start the new season tonight. :)
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KAB
I missed somewhere that it was renewed for season 8. That's quite something!
dishstaller
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He was 71 yrs old. One of my favorite songs is Seminole Wind....the violin is killer.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8sh9P3X33w
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M
I Wish I Could Have Been There is an amazing song. Rest in peace Mr Anderson.
Bobby
Rest in peace.
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comfortably_numb
Hope you're out there Swingin', John.
dishstaller
I Wish I Could Have Been There is an amazing song.
That's one of those songs that hits a little too close to home for me. I like the song but just can't listen to it. It's kinda like that song "Daddy never was the Cadillac kind".....reminds me too much of my Grandfather who died Feb 18, 1995.
dfergie
R.I.P. I thought he was older…
dishstaller
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.


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Juan
I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share

When walmart set a price...they weigh the container and the product...the product label only shows the weight of the product...I am sure if you brought your own plastic baggies to bring the product home you could get the cheaper price
dishstaller
When walmart set a price...they weigh the container and the product...
Then they are stupid. Everyone knows that the price per ounce should be the price per ounce of actual product.
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Juan
Then they are stupid. Everyone knows that the price per ounce should be the price per ounce of actual product.
You are paying for the whole thing
T
You are paying for the whole thing
Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.
Juan
Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.
But a box can weigh more than an ounce..maybe 2...a can might weigh 5 ounces..a bag...not much
dishstaller
.a bag...not much
Well, according to the price per ounce on that first bag of coffee he mentions, that would mean the bag weighed over 6 ounces. That bag does NOT weigh 6 ounces. According to Google, an empty bag weighs half an ounce.
Jimbo
You are paying for the whole thing
When you go to a Deli, the weight of the container is removed, so you only pay for the weight of the product .... at least where I shop.
Jimbo
Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.
I would think that the Vendor/Maker of the product would have a say in it, showing the Correct weight ...
You would think it would be in the contract.

I do look at the ounces of items, but unless its way off, I don't check the math, may have to start now.

Remember when you use to get a 13.5 oz bag of Chips .... Thats a PARTY Size now.
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I would think that the Vendor/Maker of the product would have a say in it, showing the Correct weight ...
You would think it would be in the contract.

I do look at the ounces of items, but unless its way off, I don't check the math, may have to start now.

Remember when you use to get a 13.5 oz bag of Chips .... Thats a PARTY Size now.
I remember when a pound of coffee was 16oz. Now its 12oz, they don't call it a pound anymore and its three times the cost of the 16oz pound.
dishstaller
I remember when a pound of coffee was 16oz. Now its 12oz, they don't call it a pound anymore and its three times the cost of the 16oz pound.
All through high school I worked at the local home-owned grocery store. I never cease to be amazed at how packing has shrunk through the years. I worked 1978-end of school 1982 so I worked right through all the inflation that was taking place then. Taught me life-lessons that still are with me. My primary job on Saturdays was doing all the price changes....back then you used a price gun, so I had a front row seat. Sugar REALLY went through the roof which is why we now have high fructose corn syrup in just about everything we eat nowadays .
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Juan
When you go to a Deli, the weight of the container is removed, so you only pay for the weight of the product .... at least where I shop.
It's a plastic bag at the deli....at the end of the day..the only thing that will happen is that walmart will increase there cost per ounce price...there is no way..no how they will reduce prices
Juan
All through high school I worked at the local home-owned grocery store. I never cease to be amazed at how packing has shrunk through the years. I worked 1978-end of school 1982 so I worked right through all the inflation that was taking place then. Taught me life-lessons that still are with me. My primary job on Saturdays was doing all the price changes....back then you used a price gun, so I had a front row seat. Sugar REALLY went through the roof which is why we now have high fructose corn syrup in just about everything we eat nowadays .
Sugar went from 5 pound bags to 4 pound bags
Juan
Well, according to the price per ounce on that first bag of coffee he mentions, that would mean the bag weighed over 6 ounces. That bag does NOT weigh 6 ounces. According to Google, an empty bag weighs half an ounce.
You need to weigh the actual bag...a deli bag weighs less than that but a thick coffee bag is gonna weigh around an ounce...an empty tin can has some weight
NYDutch
You need to weigh the actual bag...a deli bag weighs less than that but a thick coffee bag is gonna weigh around an ounce...an empty tin can has some weight
Products sold by the ounce, pound, etc, should always be priced for the product only. Only the shipping weight should include the packaging.
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Last reply · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info
Interesting article about the work being done to develope an ATSC 3 converter box. Yes it does mention affordable.
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navychop
DEATH TO NEXGEN!
TRG
TRG
17 years ago the US turned off analog OTA signals in favor of digital broadcasting. Now the push is ATSC 3 "Nextgen TV". But nobody seems to be able to agree on DRM implementation protocols. People don't want to hook their TV up to the internet in order to watch over the air TV. At least I don't. With all the data they collect about your viewing habits the box should be given away at no cost.
navychop
Comb your hair.
primestar31
DEATH TO NEXGEN!
star trek GIF


It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
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I truly hope you are right.
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Mister B
What bothers me is the total waste of broadcasting spectrum in this very crowded market. It has been almost three years now since KFOX converted their broadcast tower to ATSC 3.0 and moved all of their channels to other towers causing noticeable degradation of the picture quality.
I have a Sony TV with 3.0 capabilities but still use the 1.0 version of locals due to the fact that one or all of the 3.0 channels are often missing or unwatchable. In this city of 800K I doubt that more than a few hundred even know about ATSC 3.0.
The only thing that could motivate me to be interested in 3.0 would be if all of the minor networks (diginets) could be in at least 720P rather than blurry ultra-compressed 480i.
Three years is long enough to waste one of the few available RF frequencies in the area for this trial.
It is time to either move on with this experiment or call it quits.
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Little Miss Can't Be Wrong - Spin Doctors
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Jump Down, Spin Around - Harry Belafonte
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Stop Draggin' My Heart Around - Tom Petty and Stevie Nicks
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This Old HEART Of Mine(Is Weak For You)-The Isley Brothers
ClarkGable
Don't Go Breaking My Heart - Elton John & Kiki Dee
SuperDish_Fan23
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.
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Almighty1
That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.
Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".
Bobby
Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".
In my very early work life I installed and repaired those phones.
AZ.
AZ.
Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".
someone is showing their age
Almighty1
someone is showing their age
LOL. It depends if the person saw it during the years when they were actually still available which is 1968 to 1983 meaning the person could be 43-58 years old or they can even be a few years old if they learned to read and write at a young age and actually saw a telephone with that label somewhere recently just like even here in San Francisco, payphone still exist physically in public places but whether they can be used or not is a different issue. It still looks like this even today:
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dishstaller
I opened my Radio Shack in Sept 1984 and right about that time they did the whole deregulation thing with the phone companies. I bought TONS of those phones that had been refurbished with a new outer shell. You could throw one of those out of a 3 story high window and it would still work.
That was an interesting time in history. I would have older customers come in and ask about phones.....they were terrified that they were going to get into trouble hooking up a second phone without the phone company knowing about it. One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone. I guess younger folks can't conceive of a time when you were limited to the number of phones you could have in your house....and limited to the length of the cord 🤣
navychop
someone is showing their age

You should hear his stories about when rocks were soft and pterodactyls were the new kid on the block!
dishstaller
One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA0yZ1nrm6M&pp=ygUPd2tycCBwaG9uZSBjb3Bz
llokey
In my very early work life I installed and repaired those phones.
And I kept them working through the ESS offices.
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Every time my Dish contract comes up I weigh the options of keeping Dish or switch to streaming. Right now I can watch/record the OTA channels vis my HDHomerun. I also can stream CBS and NBC via the Paramount+ and Peacock apps. What I would need to find is how to watch the Food Network, HGTV, Syfy, USA, Hallmark channels, Great American Family, Lifetime channels plus a few more with an app or two. My current Dish bill is $118, so I should be able to get a few apps for a lot less.

Any suggestions? I would want the best picture quality and audio quality I could get.
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Bruce
Every time my Dish contract comes up I weigh the options of keeping Dish or switch to streaming. Right now I can watch/record the OTA channels vis my HDHomerun. I also can stream CBS and NBC via the Paramount+ and Peacock apps. What I would need to find is how to watch the Food Network, HGTV, Syfy, USA, Hallmark channels, Great American Family, Lifetime channels plus a few more with an app or two. My current Dish bill is $118, so I should be able to get a few apps for a lot less.

Any suggestions? I would want the best picture quality and audio quality I could get.
USA and SyFy content is on Peacock, you can receive the rest of those channels via Philo, only $25 a month.

Almighty1
Every time my Dish contract comes up I weigh the options of keeping Dish or switch to streaming. Right now I can watch/record the OTA channels vis my HDHomerun. I also can stream CBS and NBC via the Paramount+ and Peacock apps. What I would need to find is how to watch the Food Network, HGTV, Syfy, USA, Hallmark channels, Great American Family, Lifetime channels plus a few more with an app or two. My current Dish bill is $118, so I should be able to get a few apps for a lot less.

Any suggestions? I would want the best picture quality and audio quality I could get.
This is what Google Search AI says, let's see how good AI can really solve problems.


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  • Channel Checklist: Food Network, HGTV, Syfy, USA, Hallmark Channel, Hallmark Mystery, Great American Family, Lifetime, and Lifetime Movies. [1]
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YouTube TV ($82.99/mo) is highly regarded for its robust streaming stability, unlimited DVR, and highly polished user interface. [1, 2, 3]
  • Channel Checklist: It includes Food Network, HGTV, Syfy, USA, Hallmark channels, and Lifetime.
  • The Catch: Great American Family is not in the base lineup and requires the Sports Plus or Entertainment Plus add-on package, which increases the monthly cost.
  • Quality & Audio: It streams in 1080p/60fps with an advanced compression codec that minimizes buffering. It features native 5.1 surround sound audio across major streaming hardware platforms.

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If you want to maximize your financial savings by skipping a massive live TV guide, you can split your checklist across a few dedicated streaming apps. Because you already pay for Peacock, you can cross USA and Syfy content off your list, as Peacock hosts most of those networks' premium shows next-day or live.
By adding the following, you can build a highly customized tier:
  • Frndly TV ($6.99–$10.99/mo): This affordable live app brings you all 3 Hallmark channels, Great American Family, and the Lifetime networks with a classic cloud DVR.
  • Discovery+ ($4.99–$8.99/mo): This gives you the full, deep on-demand libraries and live feeds for Food Network and HGTV. [1]
Total Estimated Stack Cost: Around $12 to $20/mo combined on top of what you already pay.
  • Quality Note: Frndly TV maxes out at 720p/1080p high-definition with stereo audio, while Discovery+ supports highly optimized crisp 1080p and selective 4K video playback with strong digital audio depth on high-end streaming sticks. [1]

Cord-Cutting Tips for Peak Quality
  • Streaming Hardware Matters: To get the best possible image processing and audio passthrough, use dedicated streaming hardware like an Apple TV 4K or a high-end Roku Ultra rather than relying on the built-in smart TV operating systems.
  • Check Your Bandwidth: Ensure your home network has a stable downstream speed of at least 25–50 Mbps dedicated to your main television device to ensure the streaming apps auto-negotiate to their highest available bitrate and frame rates without dropping down to lower resolutions.
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This is what Google Search AI says, let's see how good AI can really solve problems.


To perfectly cover your specific channel checklist while saving significantly on your $118 Dish Network bill, you can leverage your existing HDHomerun setup alongside a live TV streaming service or app combination.
Since you require USA and Syfy, budget entertainment-only streaming apps like Philo ($28/mo) or Frndly TV ($7–$11/mo) will not work as standalone solutions because they exclude NBCUniversal networks. [1, 2]
Here are the best ways to get all your channels, optimized for high picture and audio quality:

Option 1: Hulu + Live TV (The All-In-One Match)
Hulu + Live TV ($89.99–$99.99/mo) is the most seamless replacement because its base tier natively carries every single channel on your list: [1, 2, 3]
  • Channel Checklist: Food Network, HGTV, Syfy, USA, Hallmark Channel, Hallmark Mystery, Great American Family, Lifetime, and Lifetime Movies. [1]
  • Quality & Audio: Hulu + Live TV is widely praised by cord-cutters for its excellent high-bitrate 1080p video quality at 60 frames per second (fps) on compatible streaming hardware. It supports 5.1 Dolby Digital surround sound on most live channels and compatible home theater systems.
  • Bonus Value: The price automatically bundles the entire on-demand libraries of Hulu, Disney+, and ESPN+, which gives you a massive amount of additional content. [1, 2]

Option 2: YouTube TV (The Premium Interface Alternative)
YouTube TV ($82.99/mo) is highly regarded for its robust streaming stability, unlimited DVR, and highly polished user interface. [1, 2, 3]
  • Channel Checklist: It includes Food Network, HGTV, Syfy, USA, Hallmark channels, and Lifetime.
  • The Catch: Great American Family is not in the base lineup and requires the Sports Plus or Entertainment Plus add-on package, which increases the monthly cost.
  • Quality & Audio: It streams in 1080p/60fps with an advanced compression codec that minimizes buffering. It features native 5.1 surround sound audio across major streaming hardware platforms.

Option 3: The Maximum Savings "App Stack" Combination
If you want to maximize your financial savings by skipping a massive live TV guide, you can split your checklist across a few dedicated streaming apps. Because you already pay for Peacock, you can cross USA and Syfy content off your list, as Peacock hosts most of those networks' premium shows next-day or live.
By adding the following, you can build a highly customized tier:
  • Frndly TV ($6.99–$10.99/mo): This affordable live app brings you all 3 Hallmark channels, Great American Family, and the Lifetime networks with a classic cloud DVR.
  • Discovery+ ($4.99–$8.99/mo): This gives you the full, deep on-demand libraries and live feeds for Food Network and HGTV. [1]
Total Estimated Stack Cost: Around $12 to $20/mo combined on top of what you already pay.
  • Quality Note: Frndly TV maxes out at 720p/1080p high-definition with stereo audio, while Discovery+ supports highly optimized crisp 1080p and selective 4K video playback with strong digital audio depth on high-end streaming sticks. [1]

Cord-Cutting Tips for Peak Quality
  • Streaming Hardware Matters: To get the best possible image processing and audio passthrough, use dedicated streaming hardware like an Apple TV 4K or a high-end Roku Ultra rather than relying on the built-in smart TV operating systems.
  • Check Your Bandwidth: Ensure your home network has a stable downstream speed of at least 25–50 Mbps dedicated to your main television device to ensure the streaming apps auto-negotiate to their highest available bitrate and frame rates without dropping down to lower resolutions.
WOW! Thanks for this info. I have Roku Ultra and I have a 300mbps internet plan.
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WOW! Thanks for this info. I have Roku Ultra and I have a 300mbps internet plan.
You'll see the Friendly TV app on your Roku....it's preloaded. If you pay by the year it is under $100 for the entire year. Nice mix of channels.
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This is what Google Search AI says, let's see how good AI can really solve problems.


To perfectly cover your specific channel checklist while saving significantly on your $118 Dish Network bill, you can leverage your existing HDHomerun setup alongside a live TV streaming service or app combination.
Since you require USA and Syfy, budget entertainment-only streaming apps like Philo ($28/mo) or Frndly TV ($7–$11/mo) will not work as standalone solutions because they exclude NBCUniversal networks. [1, 2]
Here are the best ways to get all your channels, optimized for high picture and audio quality:

Option 1: Hulu + Live TV (The All-In-One Match)
Hulu + Live TV ($89.99–$99.99/mo) is the most seamless replacement because its base tier natively carries every single channel on your list: [1, 2, 3]
  • Channel Checklist: Food Network, HGTV, Syfy, USA, Hallmark Channel, Hallmark Mystery, Great American Family, Lifetime, and Lifetime Movies. [1]
  • Quality & Audio: Hulu + Live TV is widely praised by cord-cutters for its excellent high-bitrate 1080p video quality at 60 frames per second (fps) on compatible streaming hardware. It supports 5.1 Dolby Digital surround sound on most live channels and compatible home theater systems.
  • Bonus Value: The price automatically bundles the entire on-demand libraries of Hulu, Disney+, and ESPN+, which gives you a massive amount of additional content. [1, 2]

Option 2: YouTube TV (The Premium Interface Alternative)
YouTube TV ($82.99/mo) is highly regarded for its robust streaming stability, unlimited DVR, and highly polished user interface. [1, 2, 3]
  • Channel Checklist: It includes Food Network, HGTV, Syfy, USA, Hallmark channels, and Lifetime.
  • The Catch: Great American Family is not in the base lineup and requires the Sports Plus or Entertainment Plus add-on package, which increases the monthly cost.
  • Quality & Audio: It streams in 1080p/60fps with an advanced compression codec that minimizes buffering. It features native 5.1 surround sound audio across major streaming hardware platforms.

Option 3: The Maximum Savings "App Stack" Combination
If you want to maximize your financial savings by skipping a massive live TV guide, you can split your checklist across a few dedicated streaming apps. Because you already pay for Peacock, you can cross USA and Syfy content off your list, as Peacock hosts most of those networks' premium shows next-day or live.
By adding the following, you can build a highly customized tier:
  • Frndly TV ($6.99–$10.99/mo): This affordable live app brings you all 3 Hallmark channels, Great American Family, and the Lifetime networks with a classic cloud DVR.
  • Discovery+ ($4.99–$8.99/mo): This gives you the full, deep on-demand libraries and live feeds for Food Network and HGTV. [1]
Total Estimated Stack Cost: Around $12 to $20/mo combined on top of what you already pay.
  • Quality Note: Frndly TV maxes out at 720p/1080p high-definition with stereo audio, while Discovery+ supports highly optimized crisp 1080p and selective 4K video playback with strong digital audio depth on high-end streaming sticks. [1]

Cord-Cutting Tips for Peak Quality
  • Streaming Hardware Matters: To get the best possible image processing and audio passthrough, use dedicated streaming hardware like an Apple TV 4K or a high-end Roku Ultra rather than relying on the built-in smart TV operating systems.
  • Check Your Bandwidth: Ensure your home network has a stable downstream speed of at least 25–50 Mbps dedicated to your main television device to ensure the streaming apps auto-negotiate to their highest available bitrate and frame rates without dropping down to lower resolutions.
I ran it by Chat, out of curiosity

There are actually some pretty good options here, especially since this person already has an HDHomeRun handling OTA channels and DVR recording. That eliminates one of the biggest reasons people pay for expensive live-TV streaming packages.

I'd narrow it down to three options: Philo, Sling Blue + Frndly TV, or DIRECTV MyEntertainment + Frndly TV.

The best options as of October 2026

ServiceMonthly priceWhat's covered
Philo Essential$25Food Network, HGTV, all three Hallmark channels, Great American Family, Lifetime and LMN. Missing USA and Syfy.
Sling TV BlueFrom $45.99Food Network, HGTV, USA, Syfy and Lifetime. Missing some of the family/movie channels without add-ons.
Frndly TV Classic$10.99Hallmark channels, Great American Family, Lifetime, LMN and other family-oriented channels. HD and unlimited cloud DVR included.
DIRECTV MyEntertainment$42.99Food Network, HGTV, Syfy, Lifetime and many entertainment channels. Includes Disney+, Hulu and HBO Max ad-supported access.

Prices may vary by location and applicable taxes.

Notice that Philo covers almost everything for just $25, but USA and Syfy are the problem. Naturally, two channels manage to complicate an otherwise beautiful budget.

My recommendation

For the absolute lowest cost, Philo Essential at $25/month is hard to beat, provided they can live without live USA and Syfy. It even includes unlimited cloud DVR with recordings retained for one year.

If every channel matters, I'd compare these two combinations:
  • Sling Blue + Frndly Classic: Approximately $57–$66/month depending on Sling's local pricing, before taxes. Covers the entire requested channel list.
  • DIRECTV MyEntertainment + Frndly Classic: Approximately $54/month at the $42.99 DIRECTV price. Covers everything except USA, which is not on the currently published MyEntertainment lineup.

Picture and audio quality

This is where I'd offer one caution. Streaming isn't automatically better than DISH.

Sling generally delivers live TV in 720p, often with stereo audio, although some on-demand programming supports Dolby 5.1. Frndly's Classic plan offers HD, but not necessarily 1080p on every channel.

If picture and sound are major priorities, compare the actual services on the same television and streaming device during their trial periods. A dedicated on-demand app may deliver a better encode or surround soundtrack than the corresponding live channel, but availability varies by show and device.

The bottom line: I'd recommend trying Philo first. Their current $25 Essential package covers nearly the entire wish list and saves $93/month, or $1,116/year, compared with the $118 DISH bill. If USA and Syfy are must-haves as live channels, Sling Blue plus Frndly would be my next choice.

And one final distinction worth making on that message board: HDHomeRun recordings won't replace the cloud DVR for subscription channels. Those recordings stay within the streaming services' respective apps.