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IMHO, the Number One Myth spun around in this format "war" is that "For High-Def Optical Media to survive, there has to be only one format". Or, spun another way: "The format war creates consumer confusion, and reluctance to buy either until there is one clear winner!"
This of course the rallying cry of Blu-ray - who conveniently feels that since they currently have a little more studio support, considerably more CE company support, and a current 61/39% (since inception) lead in the 1% of DVD sales HD currently enjoys - they are the logical choice and HD DVD should do us all a favor just die already. And one of their main cheerleaders is Bill Hunt of The Digital Bits, who claims to not really care which format wins - but for the reasons above, Blu-ray is the logical choice.
While I own both an HD DVD player and a PS3 for Blu-ray, I have always preferred and supported HD DVD for many reasons. I also believe both formats can and will survive, and does not create any meaningful consumer confusion. But, what about this #1 Myth that the vast majority of consumer aren't buying either Blu-ray or HD DVD until this format "war" is over and there is a clear winner?
In this week's Sept. 2-8 Home Media Magazine (available online for free at Nxtbook) there is an article on Page 1 entitled "Forget about the Format War - Indifference Reigns". It's about a research study conducted by Warner Home Video. The study, representing more than 1,000 consumers, found that 48% of respondents were indifferent to buying either Blu-ray or HD DVD movies Also, 31% cited prices as barrier to entry, and only 21% mentioned competing formats as significant challenges.
That's only 1 out of 5 of all consumers are hesitant to buy a Hig-Def player because of the "format war". Almost half of all consumers couldn't care less about either one of them - they're apparently perfectly happy watching VHS or standard DVD, or re-runs of "I Love Lucy" Nickelodeon.
OK, but what about owners of HDTV's - surely they give a gosh darn about this format war being over so they can rush right out and buy a HD player? Guess again.
It's even worse! Almost 6 out of 10 owners who already have an HDTV don't feel any need for either Blu-ray or HD DVD. They're apparently perfectly happy watching HBO, Showtime or HD Movie Net in HD from the cable or satellite TV company. Almost half think that if they were going to buy an HD player, current prices are too dang high! Only slightly more than one quarter of them are those folks waiting for a "clear winner" in the highly touted format war.
So much for the #1 myth that the majority of consumers are waiting for this format war to be over before buying one. Well over half don't see a need for a high-def player. Almost half have some interest, but think prices are too high to justify a purchase. But a $166 High-Def player does seem to be the sweet spot, even for those not really all that interested.
But, the Blu-ray group doesn't seem to be in any hurry to get there. The same article quotes Andy Parsons, spokesperson for the Blu-ray Disc Association. Parsons said high-def packaged media remains in the "early-adopter phase", and questioned why HD DVD has been aggressively cutting the prices of its players. "You don't see people heading down to Best Buy because there is a cheap player available," he said. "They go down because they want to see high-def content. That's when you want to have price reductions."
Well, with Chinese HD DVD players hitting stores this holiday season with a $199 MSRP, I guess we'll find out who's right.
This of course the rallying cry of Blu-ray - who conveniently feels that since they currently have a little more studio support, considerably more CE company support, and a current 61/39% (since inception) lead in the 1% of DVD sales HD currently enjoys - they are the logical choice and HD DVD should do us all a favor just die already. And one of their main cheerleaders is Bill Hunt of The Digital Bits, who claims to not really care which format wins - but for the reasons above, Blu-ray is the logical choice.
While I own both an HD DVD player and a PS3 for Blu-ray, I have always preferred and supported HD DVD for many reasons. I also believe both formats can and will survive, and does not create any meaningful consumer confusion. But, what about this #1 Myth that the vast majority of consumer aren't buying either Blu-ray or HD DVD until this format "war" is over and there is a clear winner?
In this week's Sept. 2-8 Home Media Magazine (available online for free at Nxtbook) there is an article on Page 1 entitled "Forget about the Format War - Indifference Reigns". It's about a research study conducted by Warner Home Video. The study, representing more than 1,000 consumers, found that 48% of respondents were indifferent to buying either Blu-ray or HD DVD movies Also, 31% cited prices as barrier to entry, and only 21% mentioned competing formats as significant challenges.
That's only 1 out of 5 of all consumers are hesitant to buy a Hig-Def player because of the "format war". Almost half of all consumers couldn't care less about either one of them - they're apparently perfectly happy watching VHS or standard DVD, or re-runs of "I Love Lucy" Nickelodeon.
OK, but what about owners of HDTV's - surely they give a gosh darn about this format war being over so they can rush right out and buy a HD player? Guess again.
It's even worse! Almost 6 out of 10 owners who already have an HDTV don't feel any need for either Blu-ray or HD DVD. They're apparently perfectly happy watching HBO, Showtime or HD Movie Net in HD from the cable or satellite TV company. Almost half think that if they were going to buy an HD player, current prices are too dang high! Only slightly more than one quarter of them are those folks waiting for a "clear winner" in the highly touted format war.
So much for the #1 myth that the majority of consumers are waiting for this format war to be over before buying one. Well over half don't see a need for a high-def player. Almost half have some interest, but think prices are too high to justify a purchase. But a $166 High-Def player does seem to be the sweet spot, even for those not really all that interested.
But, the Blu-ray group doesn't seem to be in any hurry to get there. The same article quotes Andy Parsons, spokesperson for the Blu-ray Disc Association. Parsons said high-def packaged media remains in the "early-adopter phase", and questioned why HD DVD has been aggressively cutting the prices of its players. "You don't see people heading down to Best Buy because there is a cheap player available," he said. "They go down because they want to see high-def content. That's when you want to have price reductions."
Well, with Chinese HD DVD players hitting stores this holiday season with a $199 MSRP, I guess we'll find out who's right.
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No. $1000 for a player is ridiculous! I have a hard time paying more than $50 for a regular DVD player.
Am I a cheap tight wad? Nope. I have some very nice expensive equipment. I just will not buy something when the future of the entire technology is in doubt any more.
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Am I a cheap tight wad? Nope. I have some very nice expensive equipment. I just will not buy something when the future of the entire technology is in doubt any more.
See ya
Tony
What nice DVD player do you have for under 50 bucks?No. $1000 for a player is ridiculous! I have a hard time paying more than $50 for a regular DVD player.
Am I a cheap tight wad? Nope. I have some very nice expensive equipment. I just will not buy something when the future of the entire technology is in doubt any more.
See ya
Tony
Well, let's see here:
No Name for $19.99 with every feature the $150 players have. Buy three in case the first two are bad and you still spent half.
Coby Super Slim Progressive Scan DVD Player hhgregg.com
Want a brand name? How about a Sony with component output for $60
Sony Progressive Scan Single-Disc DVD Player (Black) hhgregg.com
How about another no-name with every feature a $200 player has INCLUDING HDMI output and 1080i scaling for $35?
Spectron IQ with HDMI Digital Output (Video Upscaling Up to 1080i) hhgregg.com
That took 10 seconds to find. I'm sure if I looked a little harder I could find a few dozen players that fit the bill. I am currently using a CyberHome $10 DVD player with component output and coaxial DD. Looks and sound as good as any other DVD player out there for 20 times the price!
But we digress. I would be willing to pay $200-$300 for a high def (generic term) DVD player if I knew that the format was going to stick around longer than Beta, 8-tracks and DiVX.
That is not going to happen until there is a clear "winner".
Again the difference between this war and the previous wars is availability of titles and the movie industry picking sides and making exclusive deals.
See ya
Tony
But we digress. I would be willing to pay $200-$300 for a high def (generic term) DVD player if I knew that the format was going to stick around longer than Beta, 8-tracks and DiVX.
That is not going to happen until there is a clear "winner".
Again the difference between this war and the previous wars is availability of titles and the movie industry picking sides and making exclusive deals.
See ya
Tony
Tony,
Life's short. You probably drop two bills in a month going out to eat with the wife and kids. Toshiba A-2 can be had for a little over $200.00 with 8 free movies. With today's technology advancements, every format will eventually be yesterday's betamax. Besides no matter how the format war pans out, the HD-DVD player is an awesome upconverter of standard DVDs and will continue to play HD-DVDs after the format war is decided (if ever).
You owe it to your HDTV to give it every HD signal that's available.
You have named 2 under 50 dollars and I would consider them crap, IMO Colby and cyberhome? :hahaWell, let's see here:
No Name for $19.99 with every feature the $150 players have. Buy three in case the first two are bad and you still spent half.
Coby Super Slim Progressive Scan DVD Player hhgregg.com
Want a brand name? How about a Sony with component output for $60
Sony Progressive Scan Single-Disc DVD Player (Black) hhgregg.com
How about another no-name with every feature a $200 player has INCLUDING HDMI output and 1080i scaling for $35?
Spectron IQ with HDMI Digital Output (Video Upscaling Up to 1080i) hhgregg.com
That took 10 seconds to find. I'm sure if I looked a little harder I could find a few dozen players that fit the bill. I am currently using a CyberHome $10 DVD player with component output and coaxial DD. Looks and sound as good as any other DVD player out there for 20 times the price!
But we digress. I would be willing to pay $200-$300 for a high def (generic term) DVD player if I knew that the format was going to stick around longer than Beta, 8-tracks and DiVX.
That is not going to happen until there is a clear "winner".
Again the difference between this war and the previous wars is availability of titles and the movie industry picking sides and making exclusive deals.
See ya
Tony
I have that one in my bedroom, very good DVD player.
Hell it plays JPEG discs and my 5 disc Sony DVD player in my living room doesn't do that.
Tony,
Life's short. You probably drop two bills in a month going out to eat with the wife and kids. Toshiba A-2 can be had for a little over $200.00 with 8 free movies. With today's technology advancements, every format will eventually be yesterday's betamax. Besides no matter how the format war pans out, the HD-DVD player is an awesome upconverter of standard DVDs and will continue to play HD-DVDs after the format war is decided (if ever).
You owe it to your HDTV to give it every HD signal that's available.
Life is short, so is money!
I don't have a wife or kids so that isn't a problem. And I would rather use the the money to go out to eat with friends and family than on an electronics item that can be had for 1/20 to 1/4 the price and know it stands a better chance to be around at least as long if not longer. The $200 price point is real good. And it is tempting. But until my $9CyberHome POS with component outputs (which looks great on my Hitachi 42" plasma) dies, I see no reason to shell out money on a player whose format may not survive. When it is clear one format or the other is headed to the dumpster, that is when I would buy.
See ya
Tony
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The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
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So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Wasn't exactly sure where to post this. Just had a customer come in inquiring about internet. He has HughesNet and had heard good things about mine. He asked if we provided email addresses and it kinda caught me off guard. I said he should be able to keep whatever email he had been using....my sister in law is still using a BellSouth email addy and they haven't been around here for many years. He said he had gotten a letter from HughesNet stating that they had until Nov 16th to save, move, forward, whatever, their Hughesnet emails because they would lose them after that date.
I have never heard of a company simply mass-deleting email accounts (the customer still has his HughesNet service). From what I understand, in the past, the company who was ditching their email service simply sold the customer base to a company like Google.
Anyone else getting this letter. He said he would show it to me tomorrow when I go out there and set up his internet.
I have never heard of a company simply mass-deleting email accounts (the customer still has his HughesNet service). From what I understand, in the past, the company who was ditching their email service simply sold the customer base to a company like Google.
Anyone else getting this letter. He said he would show it to me tomorrow when I go out there and set up his internet.
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For the naysayers who did not think this service would make it, just added another 4.9M subscribers and that was after the removal of 1.2M Russia subscribers.
This is even better, Paramount+ revenue grew 120% and Subscription revenue grew 74% year-over-year ( 2nd quarter 2021/ 2nd quarter 2022) to $830M, principally reflecting paid subscriber growth on Paramount+.
Now compare that to Peacock with only 13 million paid, 13 million free.
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Now compare that to Peacock with only 13 million paid, 13 million free.
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So, this means that those of us with Commercial Free subs, won't be Commercial Free, unless we wait till after the show is over ?
Which would make same day, not that big of a deal.
Paramount+ has always had the CBS shows on the CBS local channel and yes with commercials. What they are doing now is releasing the OnDemand versions of the show which I believe they don't release until after the shows air on the west coast. And they will be commercial free if you subscribe to the ad free version of Paramount+.So, this means that those of us with Commercial Free subs, won't be Commercial Free, unless we wait till after the show is over ?
Which would make same day, not that big of a deal.
I wasn't up at 3:00 am to check but they are there at 8:00 am today.