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Last reply Oct 9, 2007 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Completely Unwatchable( Audio Sync issue )

This weeks Heroes, Journeyman and Chuck were completely unwatchable because the audio and video werent insync.. This is really starting to make me mad, all the new shows are starting and almost all of them are not in sync. Im in the Pittsburgh area(wpxi Channel 11) with a 622 in Dual mode through HDMI.. When i switch to the same SD channel there fine, even if i record the show and play it back, its STILL out of sync...

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Fitzie

Oct 8, 2007

The 722 has a little feature which is "lip sync to HD" or "lip sync to SD."

I have set mine to "lip sync to HD", but it doesn't work well enough, the audio usually precedes the video in high def shows. This is very noticable when watching golf in high def, since the sound of the swing precedes the video of the actual swing. About a 1/2 second audio delay would probably fix that (maybe less).

I don't recall whether there is a lip sync issue in SD--if there is one, it's not as bad.

The optimal solution would be a variable lip sync feature (as described by HDhockey guy in his post) in the 722, so the viewer could adjust the audio/video sync to his/her own satisfaction based on the type of programming being watched. Fast action sports shows in HD would probably be most problematic due to processing needs (which was mainly why ABC/ESPN went with 720p for broadcasting/programming years ago, so as to decrease motion blur).

Just my views.

Regards,
Fitzie

adam612

Oct 8, 2007

The sync issue is driving us nuts.

Where is this "lip sync to HD or SD" feature found? I'd like to try and see if it helps, but can't find it on any of the menus?

slabo

Oct 8, 2007

mine seems to be working better now but on the 722, it's under menu, system setup, installation

horseflesh

Oct 9, 2007

Like other posters I started seeing these problems recently, with the new shows. I stopped by to see if I was the only one. I guess not! I will try a FPR and hope for the best.

Here in Seattle it seems to be mostly CBS and NBC though I think I have seen it on TNT HD too. I'm watching Letterman on my 722 now and the same sync problem is on OTA and Dish--though I can't say if the source is to blame util I plug my antenna into another HD tuner.

Fitzie said:
The optimal solution would be a variable lip sync feature ...

That would be useful when the source is goofed up. But if Dish gets a good source and it's mangled by my 722, that is something that Dish needs to fix and not punt to me with setup options. The excuses from the companies involved are cold comfort.

PhilipPeake

Oct 9, 2007

The real issue here is MPEG4. It doesn't have any sound/video sync mechanism. the two just free run. It gets to be an issue (as has been mentioned) when the sound and vision are transmitted over different paths, or when there is a long dely in video processing (compression/decompression).

The real answer is to tag sound and video with sequence numbers to allow the pair to be matched up at some point - ideally in the receiver, but this would add to the expense of the receiver. Simply doing this at each (re) transmission point would help a lot.

I think practical experience is much worse than people expected, so maybe, one day, the standard will be changed to give this facility.

Fitzie

Oct 9, 2007

PhilipPeake said "The real answer is to tag sound and video with sequence numbers to allow the pair to be matched up at some point - ideally in the receiver, but this would add to the expense of the receiver. Simply doing this at each (re) transmission point would help a lot."

I agree with Mr. Peake that his suggestion is the real answer to the problem, and computer gurus may be working on that solution now. Updating a standard, however, is typically a long process, and implementing it can be even longer.

A couple of weeks ago I sent Dish Quality an e-mail regarding the lip sync issue, and received a very polite response (which I appreciated). Their comment in response was, in essence, that they're working feverishly on the problem but there are just so many weak links in the chain that its tough pulling (i.e., they keep finding different causes in different situations).

For the interim, I would be satisfied with a 722 update that would let me manually set the audio delay. If I'm watching a program that will be 3 to 4 hours in length, I wouldn't mind taking 15 to 20 seconds to set the delay. This would be especially easy if Dish provided a guide with recommended settings depending on the type of material being viewed, and could be done as an upgrade to the current lip sync feature (I would hope). I think I'll e-mail that idea to Dish.

Regards,
Fitzie

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klang

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klang

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I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.

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klang

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klang said:
I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.

Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.

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MikeD-C05

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klang said:
Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.

Yeah, the foot stuff was just nasty. I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less. Funny, I love being shoe less at home and never wear shoes indoors in my home for long, but seeing her laying on all her furniture with her bare feet hanging out just kind of grossed me out.

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harshness

Oct 13, 2026

MikeD-C05 said:
I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less.

Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?

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MikeD-C05

Sunday at 12:51 PM

harshness said:
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?

There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure. So walking around the station like she did she would get stuff on her feet. I am sure the robot vacuum is still going to miss stuff, with all those different alien species running around there.

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harshness

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MikeD-C05 said:
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure.

Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.

MikeD-C05

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harshness said:
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.

I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that.

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osu1991

Yesterday at 1:59 PM

MikeD-C05 said:
I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that.

Stay out of my office. I rarely have shoes or socks on in the office. My office and business is at home though :clapping

klang

Yesterday at 2:04 PM

I just thought her behavior, including the bare feet thing, was disrespectful to her position.

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harshness

Today at 5:36 PM

MikeD-C05 said:
I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes.

That is your right.

I couldn't buy hiding behind the dirty-feet argument.

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