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Last reply Jul 24, 2004 · posted in Old YAHOOGROUPS - VOOM! Archives

[VOOM] VOOM list now 2000 members

80% of the posts come from a dozen or so whiners.

If you are new here, don't listen to them. Like any other new
technology, VOOM has a few bugs. But don't let that scare you off.
No one even comes close is HD content. There is no better HD value
for the money.

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snappingfish

Jul 24, 2004

[VOOM] Re: VOOM list now 2000 members

Me and many others wonder when in the world you will realize that
Voom needs customers (many customers) to stay in business.

If you are a cable (monopoly) company, I suppose it does not matter
that 50% of your customers are unhappy with your service. I do not
think that mentality will fly in the satellite business. IMHO.

--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "Aldo A. Falla" <afalla@v...> wrote:
> I second that motion, if anything, what in the world took you so
long to
> realize Voom is not for you????

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vinnyv07

Jul 24, 2004

Voom is a new company that has its issues that they have to work out....but there is no better service for HD right now. Not to mention the FREE Tyson fight in HD at the end of JULY. I would put VOOM's basic service up against any other providers basic service....and VOOM would win hands down. For fifty bucks a mth you just cant beat it. Despite VOOM's problems....you just cant find another provider that makes tv fun again. Give VOOM some time...there's no doubt that they will be the best out there.

Bob Mankin

Jul 24, 2004

RE: [VOOM] Re: VOOM list now 2000 members

> -----Original Message-----
> From: snappingfish [mailto:snappingfish@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 4:37 AM
> To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [VOOM] Re: VOOM list now 2000 members
>
> 1. There are more than a dozen complainers, both here and on
> Satelliteguys.com 2. I was not a "charter" member of DirecTV
> and I am not a "charter"
> member of Voom. DirecTV let me install my own equipment back
> in November of 1995. Voom would not let me install my own
> equipment in March of 2004.

-- Even if it's two dozen(being generous), that puts it just over 1% of the
subscribing members. Either some real quiet people out there or your
assumptions of how many dissatisfied customers there are is wrong. Remember
the 1 in 10 rule.

-- You weren't there for the first year of DirecTV, but seem to make the
assumption that they didn't have significant issues during that time. Their
boxes today still have bugs, delayed feature enhancements or features that
don't live up to their billing.

> 3. None of my DirecTV boxes (other than DirecTivo) have
> locked up once in 9 years! The DirecTivo box needs a reboot
> every 6 months.

-- Count your blessings. How many are HDTV boxes? DVRs?

> Before I upgraded the Voom dish to 30" (purchased and
> installed myself), I would loose the Voom service due to lite
> rain or clouds a couple of times a week. Since installing
> the 30" dish, I have not noticed any outage, but that could
> be partly due to that I hardly watch Voom anymore.

-- You went to the trouble of installing a 30" dish so you could stop
watching?????

>
> My intent when I ordered Voom was to drop DirecTV. I think
> it will be the other way around.
>

I sympathize with your frustration.....to a point. It seems if you're this
unhappy a simple phone call for an uninstall should have been made weeks
ago. What's the point of daily repetitive complaints to the list?

One of the classics of the week is the one where they guy is going to call
up and demand a new, bug free box or else. I think if he had read that one a
few more times before posting he might not have posted. It's like suggesting
Voom is just sitting on stable hardware and software, but only giving it out
to those who complain loudly and often. Pretty silly.

It's bleeding edge technology, kids. Part of the program(the OTA stuff) is
full of potential issues that are beyond Voom's control. I subscribe to a
regional HDTV list which has regular posts about OTA issues. These are
DirecTV setups, Dish setups, PC card setups and all things in between. Each
have their issues. Sometimes it's a local station hardware problem or human
error where someone literally forgets to throw the switch. Sometimes it's a
network feed problem. But no one gets upset, throws tantrums or makes
demanding requests to the broadcasters and most of them too are paying a
sizeable monthly program fee to one vendor or another. Seems to be a more
mature attitude where most of them recognize the bleeding edge nature of the
technology and are willing to roll with the punches while it develops. We
could use a good dose of that over here.

Bob

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Seawaves

Jul 24, 2004

Bob Mankin said:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: snappingfish [mailto:snappingfish@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 4:37 AM
> To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [VOOM] Re: VOOM list now 2000 members
>
> 1. There are more than a dozen complainers, both here and on
> Satelliteguys.com 2. I was not a "charter" member of DirecTV
> and I am not a "charter"
> member of Voom. DirecTV let me install my own equipment back
> in November of 1995. Voom would not let me install my own
> equipment in March of 2004.

-- Even if it's two dozen(being generous), that puts it just over 1% of the
subscribing members. Either some real quiet people out there or your
assumptions of how many dissatisfied customers there are is wrong. Remember
the 1 in 10 rule.

-- You weren't there for the first year of DirecTV, but seem to make the
assumption that they didn't have significant issues during that time. Their
boxes today still have bugs, delayed feature enhancements or features that
don't live up to their billing.

> 3. None of my DirecTV boxes (other than DirecTivo) have
> locked up once in 9 years! The DirecTivo box needs a reboot
> every 6 months.

-- Count your blessings. How many are HDTV boxes? DVRs?

> Before I upgraded the Voom dish to 30" (purchased and
> installed myself), I would loose the Voom service due to lite
> rain or clouds a couple of times a week. Since installing
> the 30" dish, I have not noticed any outage, but that could
> be partly due to that I hardly watch Voom anymore.

-- You went to the trouble of installing a 30" dish so you could stop
watching?????

>
> My intent when I ordered Voom was to drop DirecTV. I think
> it will be the other way around.
>

I sympathize with your frustration.....to a point. It seems if you're this
unhappy a simple phone call for an uninstall should have been made weeks
ago. What's the point of daily repetitive complaints to the list?

One of the classics of the week is the one where they guy is going to call
up and demand a new, bug free box or else. I think if he had read that one a
few more times before posting he might not have posted. It's like suggesting
Voom is just sitting on stable hardware and software, but only giving it out
to those who complain loudly and often. Pretty silly.

It's bleeding edge technology, kids. Part of the program(the OTA stuff) is
full of potential issues that are beyond Voom's control. I subscribe to a
regional HDTV list which has regular posts about OTA issues. These are
DirecTV setups, Dish setups, PC card setups and all things in between. Each
have their issues. Sometimes it's a local station hardware problem or human
error where someone literally forgets to throw the switch. Sometimes it's a
network feed problem. But no one gets upset, throws tantrums or makes
demanding requests to the broadcasters and most of them too are paying a
sizeable monthly program fee to one vendor or another. Seems to be a more
mature attitude where most of them recognize the bleeding edge nature of the
technology and are willing to roll with the punches while it develops. We
could use a good dose of that over here.

Bob

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Voom is NOT bleeding edge- HD has been arouund for a while. They do so much compression that the HD channels look like crap. What Voom is- is a cable company trying to sell satellite and needs to change it's approach. We don't have to keep Voom if we are unhappy, and many are leaving.

If every Voom HD channel looked like the HD News channel- 100 Voom would worth all the other annoying problems.

Timothy fouts

Jul 24, 2004

so good riddance and be gone with you

On Jul 24, 2004, at 3:03 PM, Seawaves wrote:

>
> Bob Mankin Wrote:
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: snappingfish [mailto:snappingfish@yahoo.com]
> > > Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 4:37 AM
> > > To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [VOOM] Re: VOOM list now 2000 members
> > >
> > > 1. There are more than a dozen complainers, both here and on
> > > Satelliteguys.com 2. I was not a "charter" member of DirecTV
> > > and I am not a "charter"
> > > member of Voom. DirecTV let me install my own equipment back
> > > in November of 1995. Voom would not let me install my own
> > > equipment in March of 2004.
> >
> > -- Even if it's two dozen(being generous), that puts it just over
> 1% of
> > the
> > subscribing members. Either some real quiet people out there or your
> > assumptions of how many dissatisfied customers there are is wrong.
> > Remember
> > the 1 in 10 rule.
> >
> > -- You weren't there for the first year of DirecTV, but seem to make
> > the
> > assumption that they didn't have significant issues during that
> time.
> > Their
> > boxes today still have bugs, delayed feature enhancements or
> features
> > that
> > don't live up to their billing.
> >
> >
> > > 3. None of my DirecTV boxes (other than DirecTivo) have
> > > locked up once in 9 years! The DirecTivo box needs a reboot
> > > every 6 months.
> >
> > -- Count your blessings. How many are HDTV boxes? DVRs?
> >
> > > Before I upgraded the Voom dish to 30" (purchased and
> > > installed myself), I would loose the Voom service due to lite
> > > rain or clouds a couple of times a week. Since installing
> > > the 30" dish, I have not noticed any outage, but that could
> > > be partly due to that I hardly watch Voom anymore.
> >
> > -- You went to the trouble of installing a 30" dish so you could
> stop
> > watching?????
> >
> > >
> > > My intent when I ordered Voom was to drop DirecTV. I think
> > > it will be the other way around.
> > >
> >
> > I sympathize with your frustration.....to a point. It seems if
> you're
> > this
> > unhappy a simple phone call for an uninstall should have been made
> > weeks
> > ago. What's the point of daily repetitive complaints to the list?
> >
> > One of the classics of the week is the one where they guy is going
> to
> > call
> > up and demand a new, bug free box or else. I think if he had read
> that
> > one a
> > few more times before posting he might not have posted. It's like
> > suggesting
> > Voom is just sitting on stable hardware and software, but only
> giving
> > it out
> > to those who complain loudly and often. Pretty silly.
> >
> > It's bleeding edge technology, kids. Part of the program(the OTA
> stuff)
> > is
> > full of potential issues that are beyond Voom's control. I
> subscribe to
> > a
> > regional HDTV list which has regular posts about OTA issues. These
> are
> > DirecTV setups, Dish setups, PC card setups and all things in
> between.
> > Each
> > have their issues. Sometimes it's a local station hardware problem
> or
> > human
> > error where someone literally forgets to throw the switch. Sometimes
> > it's a
> > network feed problem. But no one gets upset, throws tantrums or
> makes
> > demanding requests to the broadcasters and most of them too are
> paying
> > a
> > sizeable monthly program fee to one vendor or another. Seems to be a
> > more
> > mature attitude where most of them recognize the bleeding edge
> nature
> > of the
> > technology and are willing to roll with the punches while it
> develops.
> > We
> > could use a good dose of that over here.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> Voom is NOT bleeding edge- HD has been arouund for a while. They do so
> much compression that the HD channels look like crap. What Voom is- is
> a cable company trying to sell satellite and needs to change it's
> approach. We don't have to keep Voom if we are unhappy, and many are
> leaving.
>
> If every Voom HD channel looked like the HD News channel- 100 Voom
> would worth all the other annoying problems.
>
>
> --
> Seawaves
>
>
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osu1991

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Marvel Television’s VisionQuest

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osu1991

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Watched the first episode and enjoyed it.

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James Spader gets the best lines so far. I'm enjoying this series.

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Finished the 2nd episode tonight. I'm really liking it so far.

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Apparently I'm not a big enough nerd

since I did not read every Marvel Comic Book ever published. If I had, I might be comparing the comics' version of events compared to what's transpiring in "Visionquest". So, I am enjoying the series a lot, not weighed down by previous expectations, knowing only the Avengers MCU movies and the "Wandavision" / "Agatha All Along" TV series.

I found the Mr Know-it-All channel from his discussion about "Star Trek: Strange New Worlds" and he's been gleefully picking these episodes apart, referencing the Marvel comics from the 1939 on. Turns out A.I. has been around since before World War II, at least in the comics. (Robots before that, yes, yes.) This show is going back into the archives.

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I'm expecting the finale to basically bring Vision into play for the Doomsday movie next month.

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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

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Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

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Get it?

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nelson61

Monday at 12:22 PM

Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.

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Scott Greczkowski

Monday at 1:25 PM

nelson61 said:
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.

Can't remember where or who I saw predict this.

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.

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Bruce

Tuesday at 10:17 AM

Scott Greczkowski said:
It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.

Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.

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Scott Greczkowski

Tuesday at 10:22 AM

Bruce said:
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.

I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.

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Bruce

Tuesday at 11:30 AM

Scott Greczkowski said:
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.

Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.

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Nebugeater

Today at 9:12 AM

Bruce said:
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.

Just a guess on my part but there may be some value to aquring to get all the retransmision agreements that are in place even though at some point they need to be renewed

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Bruce

Today at 11:22 AM

nelson61 said:
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.

If Musk really wants to buy Boost, he might get a great price once Dish Wireless is out of Chapter 11.

Boost just lost 182,000 subs in the 3rd quarter-

https://www.fierce-network.com/wireless/echostar-loses-182k-wireless-customers-q3

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man00

Today at 12:15 PM

Is Dish like Iran in one way...they both will totally collapse by end of week

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Foxbat

Today at 12:16 PM

Other than the price, my experience with Boost is not that different than what I experienced with my years with Cricket. I will be curious to see what happens if SpaceX takes the reins.

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Dang. That had to hurt. I would have not handled it that well. Surprised it wasn't brought up by Heff at the challenge.

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First rule - if you get a clue follow it immediately, 2nd - keep your stuff with you in a strange place, 3rd - pay attention to your ride... (pre first - don't go if you think you might not want to stay Rob)

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MorCowbell

Last reply Today at 10:06 AM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Saved OTA list on Dish can't be appended

I have Dish with Hopper3. I choose to get local channels OTA and had a "guide list" established at my previous home. Having moved a few miles away, I wanted to update the list by appending a couple new stations via a rescan. As many would know, some stations come in with the UHF/VHF antenna aimed in one direction, while others come in better with a different direction.

Unfortunately, when a scan is done (bringing in 25-30 stations for that particular antenna aim), the dialog screen does not present the established guide list; it presents an empty field to the right that the scanned stations may be selected one by one and added to the empty guide. But because of antenna aim, some stations originally saved are missing, and would have to be retrieved with a different antenna aim. But as I explain, if a 2nd scan is done with a different antenna aim, the stations saved from the first scan are lost.

It troubles me that Dish didn't develop software that would allow a user to simply append only 1 or 2 channels to the established list.

Any thought on this? Has anyone experienced this or heard of this from others?

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dishstaller

Tuesday at 9:42 PM

I could very well be wrong....it has been a LOT of years but back when I had a 722K it seemed like when you went back to the scan screen that you could just scan again and it would ADD those channels to the previous list or you could delete the previous results and only add the channels from the new scan.

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MorCowbell

Yesterday at 10:11 AM

Methinks you are wrong, Dishstaller - at least for what I see now..
I so wish that functionality was available ...

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n0qcu

Yesterday at 10:41 AM

dishstaller said:
I could very well be wrong....it has been a LOT of years but back when I had a 722K it seemed like when you went back to the scan screen that you could just scan again and it would ADD those channels to the previous list or you could delete the previous results and only add the channels from the new scan.

I am not sure about that but I do know that you could manually add additional channels just by entering the actual RF channel number and the older receivers would add the virtual channels to your list

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 11:11 AM

n0qcu said:
I am not sure about that but I do know that you could manually add additional channels just by entering the actual RF channel number and the older receivers would add the virtual channels to your list

Like I said.....that has been many years ago. Swapped my 722K for a Hopper in 2012.

It does seem like I remember having to delete the existing channels when we did a rescan. Back then our local stations KEPT monkeying around with things and it was non-stop complaints from customers about their channels not coming in. Got so bad that I stopped selling OR installing OTAs....something I had been doing since 1984 so you know it HAD to be pretty bad.

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MorCowbell

Today at 10:06 AM

You made one of my points for me with this comment, Dishstaller:

"... local stations KEPT monkeying around with things and it was non-stop complaints from customers about their channels not coming in ..."

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HipKat

Tuesday at 4:27 PM

Balls
Bears. Took care of the elite Seahawks defense in a great performance.
NFC North. The entire division is 2 games above .500
Lions. Finally handed an L to that weird Minnesota team. Good vibes for Jack Campbell.
Pitt. Took the lead of the division convincingly.
Bengals vs Titans game. Fireworks game. Not sure it was a well-played game, but it sure was fun. JoeyB with 6 scores... and 4 turnovers.
Denver. They keep winning, man. Payton is a baller of a coach.
Packers. Thorough beatdown of the hard-to-read Panthers.
Jags. Demolished the hapless Colts.
Rams. The Super team finally wins back-to-back games.

Goats
Vikings. Took their first L. I know their D is insane, but their offense is setting back football to the 1950's.
Cowboys. Lost a 2-score lead vs. the Gardner Minshew-led Cards... at home. Embarrassing.
Browns. Playing for the division lead by scoring 6 points.
Bucs vs Falcons game. Setting modern football back to the ice age. Honorable mention to Tua Penix err ... Michael Tagov .... well, you know what I mean.
Bengals fans acting like Burrow just won the MVP after his performance. I get it. 6 scores is awesome. But. He also turned the ball over 4 times and required overtime to beat the 1-win Titans. So spare me the parade.
Chiefs. Not because they lost. It was a close game decided on the last play vs. a divisional rival on the road. That's always rough. But because of their whining over the CLEAR flag they got on the would-be winning play. They are used to getting the calls, and when they don't, they complain. Honorable mention to Mahomes for this quote: "I mean, at the end of the day, you have to go with whatever is called, but a lot of times in those big moments, the little stuff doesn't get called like that"... so you admit it was a penalty?? Just shut up, man.
Colts. They began the fire sale earlier in the week, and it showed. This team is cooked; Daniel Jones should go to the bench, and Steichen will be fired pretty soon.
Chargers. Wow. That's all I got.
Miami. For having the Pats sort of on the ropes and letting them go.
Eagles. Another team that should consider selling some assets. They are going nowhere.

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Howard Simmons

Yesterday at 11:24 AM

HipKat said:
Balls
Bears. Took care of the elite Seahawks defense in a great performance.
NFC North. The entire division is 2 games above .500
Lions. Finally handed an L to that weird Minnesota team. Good vibes for Jack Campbell.
Pitt. Took the lead of the division convincingly.
Bengals vs Titans game. Fireworks game. Not sure it was a well-played game, but it sure was fun. JoeyB with 6 scores... and 4 turnovers.
Denver. They keep winning, man. Payton is a baller of a coach.
Packers. Thorough beatdown of the hard-to-read Panthers.
Jags. Demolished the hapless Colts.
Rams. The Super team finally wins back-to-back games.

Goats
Vikings. Took their first L. I know their D is insane, but their offense is setting back football to the 1950's.
Cowboys. Lost a 2-score lead vs. the Gardner Minshew-led Cards... at home. Embarrassing.
Browns. Playing for the division lead by scoring 6 points.
Bucs vs Falcons game. Setting modern football back to the ice age. Honorable mention to Tua Penix err ... Michael Tagov .... well, you know what I mean.
Bengals fans acting like Burrow just won the MVP after his performance. I get it. 6 scores is awesome. But. He also turned the ball over 4 times and required overtime to beat the 1-win Titans. So spare me the parade.
Chiefs. Not because they lost. It was a close game decided on the last play vs. a divisional rival on the road. That's always rough. But because of their whining over the CLEAR flag they got on the would-be winning play. They are used to getting the calls, and when they don't, they complain. Honorable mention to Mahomes for this quote: "I mean, at the end of the day, you have to go with whatever is called, but a lot of times in those big moments, the little stuff doesn't get called like that"... so you admit it was a penalty?? Just shut up, man.
Colts. They began the fire sale earlier in the week, and it showed. This team is cooked; Daniel Jones should go to the bench, and Steichen will be fired pretty soon.
Chargers. Wow. That's all I got.
Miami. For having the Pats sort of on the ropes and letting them go.
Eagles. Another team that should consider selling some assets. They are going nowhere.

Mahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.

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meStevo

Yesterday at 12:14 PM

Just the same vilification as players like Brady experienced, a product of their success and largely overblown (just like them 'getting all the calls').

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Yespage

Yesterday at 1:31 PM

Howard Simmons said:
Mahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.

Well you see him more because he is incredibly talented. And yes, typically players try to spin things being in their favor. This isn't cricket where sportsmanship (except in Australia) is expected.

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HipKat

Yesterday at 8:13 PM

Howard Simmons said:
Mahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.

He wants to be Brady

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HipKat

Yesterday at 8:14 PM

meStevo said:
Just the same vilification as players like Brady experienced, a product of their success and largely overblown (just like them 'getting all the calls').

The only people who deny what Brady got from the officials are Brady fans

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gms49ers

Today at 10:02 AM

The NFL, for some time, has protected the marquee quarterbacks. Brady, Mahomes, Allen, Burrow - they all get the calls.
The lower tier QBs don't seem to get the same benefit. For instance, some of the hits that Darnold took from Chicago on Monday night would have been a flag frenzy if any of the marquee QBs were hit like that. And I am not in any way a fan of anything Seahawks related. I am a fan of balanced officiating - and that hasn't been the case for a while.

My team is not immune to this - Fred Warner laid some vicious hits in the Commanders game that I thought should have been flagged - one was, but they picked it up.

Not a good look on NFL officials.