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jeepers94

Last reply Nov 2, 2007 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Told I can't get Dish

Well after waiting 5 weeks to get my Dish installed,my installer says no go. I have a one acre lot.The only place he was willing to put it was about 5 feet from the sidewalk .I live on the corner of 2 streets.
The location for his install was in the corner of the 2 streets. He said I could get sd but not hd anywhere else. I have a metal roof,on my house and shop.So that is out. He says it looks better for Direct.I do like Directs programming,but not their equipment. It will run me $15 more per month,plus the $498 up front lease.I tried to get Dish to send a different installer,but they just cancelled me instead.

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jeepers94

Oct 31, 2007

He wouldn't be breaking too much of a sweat. The corner where he wanted to put it was about 10 feet from the house.The lot on the other side of the house is 150' wide,and 200' deep.The first thing he did after getting out of his truck was to say this job would take at least 5 hours.That is running lines to 4 tvs,on the outside of the house. I know I could do it in less than 2 hours! There is about 40' in between the 2 trees he wanted cut down.
As for going with sd,that is why I wanted to dump cable,they don't offer hd. I have about 8 thousand dollars invested in hd equipment.I do have the local Radio Shack guys coming out in a couple of days.They sell,and install both Dish and Direct.
Another thing,the installer insisted he will NOT mount it on a pole.He wants it on the ground! We get a good bit of snow here,and I don't think that is a smart move.

jeepers94

Nov 1, 2007

It is a city lot,my lot size is 205'x200'. An acre is 200'x200'! So it is a hair over an acre. The bad part is it took 5 weeks to get the install appointment in the first place. I know the local R.S. guys can get to it sooner,but getting them to do a sight test can be a real chore. I can find several places where it looks like it should work.One place would be about 35 feet out from the house,on the side of a grape arbor.It would require going underground.I think I could just dig a slit about 6" deep with a spade.If it needed to be deeper I could do that next spring.My house is the tallest structure in the area,and I am on the top of a hill.I am in S.W.Wisconsin.
One thing about getting the R.Shack guys is I want them to install a highend OTA with amp and rotor.I looked at antennaweb to check my location.I was real disappointed.Then I looked at their map,and saw they had my house at the bottom of the hill.After I placed it in the right location,my locals went from 5 channels to 17.
I figured the money I would have to pay for Directs ripoff lease would pay for the new OTA. It comes to about $660 over the 2 years.I just hope I can get this thing done soon,the local sd cable sux!

RICHtheTech

Nov 2, 2007

Retailer Techs dont normally make anything on sight surveys. Also to many have done the survey and then the customer goes with that info and gets the bundeld Phone service. They go out, they want to make the install, its safer that way. Trips to customers homes can be expensive if you have to go more than once.
Someone mentioned an eavemount at the peak. They work well, but can be difficult to knock the snow off in the winter. I had one customer who duct-taped pipe heat tape to the back of the dish and when it started to snow, he would plug it in.
Set up an install with a local retailer. I bet by the end of the schedualed day, you will be watching Ski-Pig on rush in HD.

wmi

Nov 2, 2007

jeepers94 said:
He wouldn't be breaking too much of a sweat. The corner where he wanted to put it was about 10 feet from the house.The lot on the other side of the house is 150' wide,and 200' deep.The first thing he did after getting out of his truck was to say this job would take at least 5 hours.That is running lines to 4 tvs,on the outside of the house. I know I could do it in less than 2 hours! There is about 40' in between the 2 trees he wanted cut down.
As for going with sd,that is why I wanted to dump cable,they don't offer hd. I have about 8 thousand dollars invested in hd equipment.I do have the local Radio Shack guys coming out in a couple of days.They sell,and install both Dish and Direct.
Another thing,the installer insisted he will NOT mount it on a pole.He wants it on the ground! We get a good bit of snow here,and I don't think that is a smart move.

It always amazes me that customers think it is so easy to do.

Hey, bud, if you really think you can do it in 2 hours, Go For It!!

Dish themselves considers your 4-room new connect a 5-hour job, so your tech was right-on for telling you that.

It likely would have taken him less time than that, but then again if your install got ugly and became a nightmare, then it could take longer.

BTW, if your field slopes down toward the Southwest with trees lining the edge of the field, the line of sight to the 129 satellite may be gone.

And if that is the case, don't blame the installer. That rests squarely on the shoulders of the big-wigs at Dish who decided to put the HD channels on our lowest-sitting satellite.

Tyralak

Nov 2, 2007

wmi said:
It always amazes me that customers think it is so easy to do.

Hey, bud, if you really think you can do it in 2 hours, Go For It!!

Dish themselves considers your 4-room new connect a 5-hour job, so your tech was right-on for telling you that.

It likely would have taken him less time than that, but then again if your install got ugly and became a nightmare, then it could take longer.

BTW, if your field slopes down toward the Southwest with trees lining the edge of the field, the line of sight to the 129 satellite may be gone.

And if that is the case, don't blame the installer. That rests squarely on the shoulders of the big-wigs at Dish who decided to put the HD channels on our lowest-sitting satellite.

148 sits lower. At least from where you are.

jeepers94

Nov 2, 2007

I installed computer networks for almost 30 years,so I have knowledge of running lines!!The lines would be a snap to run! I even offered to do it.I installed cable and C band lines in the same rooms. There would be 4 sets but only 2 dual tuner receivers. One would be in the master,the 2nd lead from that would be to the room next to it.That is about 15' away. The second receiver would be in the living room,with the lead to the second set straight above it,one floor up. There is already a hole for the line through the floor.Both main lines would go in under the windows,in existing ports.
If they came out for a line survey,and it passed,I have already agreed to the install.I also agreed to the OTA,so it would be a pretty good incentive for them to come soon. I am a serious customer,not a tire kicker!

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KAB

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 1 minute ago · posted in TV Shows

Slow Horses - Apple TV

Just finished S2. Watching Gary Oldman as deshvilved, dejected MI-6 agent, Jackson Lamb, is one of the best things streaming right now. Already 2 more seasons in the works. HIGHLY recommended. And yes, Mick Jagger sings the theme.

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N5XZS

Sep 16, 2026

A fine top notch TV show which is light years ahead!!

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KAB

Sep 17, 2026

N5XZS said:
A fine top notch TV show which is light years ahead!!

"Jackson Lamb for Prime Minister! "

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Foxbat

Oct 8, 2026

Mrs. Foxbat and I are enjoying another great season so far. We only had to turn on the captions a few times.

KAB

Oct 9, 2026

Foxbat said:
Mrs. Foxbat and I are enjoying another great season so far. We only had to turn on the captions a few times.

I think this new season is a little too slow of a burn (as of ep #4, probably due to new show runner. However, I can't wait to find out what's up with Taverner!

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KAB

Today at 4:31 PM

Well, the season finale went balls to the wall. Non stop action and several twisted twists. Gary Oldman at his best. Very well written and executed. Tavener owes Jackson big time. Only "if" was Jack Lowden's (River) cliffhanger, especially admin-st the buzz that he is the next James Bond in waiting.

klang

1 minute ago

Planning to start the new season tonight.

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Intelligent Machines 893

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!

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Why $299 Is Too Much for the Apple TV 4K

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Ham Radio 2.0

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ppappas

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Last reply 43 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Newest NCIS recording doesn't allow auto skip

On Tuesday, I recorded the first episodes of the new season's NCIS shows on CBS (Dish provided, not OTA). The new New York series and Origins will both do Auto Skip, but the original, now season 24 does not. What's stranger, when I do a search for NCIS, Origins and New York show the current recording and the next episode it will record, but the original show only shows the current recording and some other channel showing the very first episode of season one. It makes no sense. When I set up the timers, I was able to use search for Origins and New York, but for the original, I had to scroll ahead in the guide until last Tuesday when the show was airing. Then set the timer from there. You can see its timer type is DVR where the other two are Seek. What am I missing?
Thanks!

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Nebugeater

Thursday at 9:12 AM

It is obviose some people do not know the diffornece between auto skip and FF

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Bobby

Thursday at 11:22 AM

Nebugeater said:
It is obviose some people do not know the diffornece between auto skip and FF

And there is a difference between fast forward and skip forwad....

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tanman

Thursday at 11:25 AM

With both CBS and Fox autohop (as we know) is not enabled for a week..But after 24 hours if you mash the FF button until the red kangaroo shows up in the bottom right you wont overshoot the program. No need to try to figure how long the break is.

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Cold Irons

Thursday at 12:03 PM

tanman said:
With both CBS and Fox autohop (as we know) is not enabled for a week..But after 24 hours if you mash the FF button until the red kangaroo shows up in the bottom right you wont overshoot the program. No need to try to figure how long the break is.

Yep. We do this all the time, but we use the 30-sec skip forward button until the red kangaroo shows up. Love this feature.

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Jim5506

Thursday at 9:27 PM

I'm a bit confused about the recording methods.
Do you havePrime Time Anytime enabled, by doing that you don't have to set recordings for Prime time programs on ABC, CBS, NBC or Fox stations, it's done daily, 7 days a week.
And only 2 weeks recordings are saved, no deletions either.

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dennispap

43 minutes ago

Jim5506 said:
I'm a bit confused about the recording methods.
Do you havePrime Time Anytime enabled, by doing that you don't have to set recordings for Prime time programs on ABC, CBS, NBC or Fox stations, it's done daily, 7 days a week.
And only 2 weeks recordings are saved, no deletions either.

Correct. If you enable PTAT, you don't have to set other timers for those programs. You can choose all of the 4 networks or as few as you want. You also can choose all 7 days or other options. However the programs will auto delete after 8 days unless you save that episode or save the whole series.

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Gary Toma

Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge

Last reply 48 minutes ago · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum

DIRECTV Transponder Map ~ Data 10/14/2026

The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:

National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)

Additional tabs provide:

OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders

Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions

DIRECTV_TPN_Map_261014.xlsx 1,874 KB

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KyL416

Yesterday at 2:37 PM

WCWW/25 CW South Bend and WBKP/5 CW Marquette are now testing on the stream server. These are both already available on satellite.

Now live in the satellite guide:
663-2 PISTONS (663-1 is likely being reserved for an overflow feed of Detroit Sportsnet, if there's a 2027 MLB season)
675 THUNDER
693 CLIPPERS

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doctor J

Today at 7:22 AM

DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for Oct 21 2026

Comparison of Transponder Data for Oct 21 2026 vs Oct 14 2026:

No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

Changes to the use of defined transponders:

1 Transponder cleared of all Streams::
Net 10 TID 126 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D11@99cb, TPN 3

1 Previously unused Transponder with current APG records::
Net 15 TID 15 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D12@103ca, TPN 16

Stream (PID) counts:

LIVE Streams	National		Spot Beams
	Count	Change	Count	Change
4K	4
HD	264	2	1449
SD mpeg4	145		194
SD mpeg2	433
RB
Audio	89
Push	26
Slate	19		1

TEST Streams	National		Spot Beams
	Count	Change	Count	Change
4K
HD			1
SD mpeg4
SD mpeg2
RB
Engr Work	38	-2

The PID count Excel workbook provides much more count detail.

Newly updated tables of Streams on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

More details of changes in individual channels will follow in the Weekly Analysis
and Gary Toma's Domestic TPN Map Excel files

NBA Updates
Weekly Analysis soon
Enjoy
DataDigesters

doctor J

Today at 7:23 AM

weekly Analysis for 10/21/2026:

Weekly_Analysis_261021.xlsx 16 KB

KyL416

Today at 7:25 AM

HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps

Mr Tony

Today at 10:40 AM

KyL416 said:
HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps

Wait…..
So even though DAZN keeps touting 'only way to see games' if you are a subscriber to Choice (like my stepdad) if an agreement is reached he can see the Wolfies on 668?
I know the Wild are in dispute and a slate is on 668-1.

KyL416

48 minutes ago

KyL416 said:
Now live in the satellite guide:
663-2 PISTONS (663-1 is likely being reserved for an overflow feed of Detroit Sportsnet, if there's a 2027 MLB season)
675 THUNDER
693 CLIPPERS

They're finally live in the app's API, doing a check

PISTONS is not available in Detroit (WMYD/20), it is available in the rest of Michigan including Marquette who also gets the games on their MyNet station WJMN/3, along with the Toledo DMA and the northern portions of the South Bend and Fort Wayne DMAs.

THUNDER is available in OKC and Tulsa, so I wonder if DTV is just going to keep the OTA feeds of KSBI/52 and KQCW/19 and direct viewers to 675 for the rest of the games.
On stream it's in Choice for Oklahoma (inlcuding the Oklahoma portions of the Amarillo, Sherman-Ada, Wichita Falls-Lawton and Joplin DMAs) and Western Arkansas and requires Sports Pack for Nebraska, Kansas and Western Missouri, I'm not sure if it's the same for satellite.

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Song Name Game Part 3!

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Good Golly, Miss Molly - Little Richard

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Little Miss Dangerous - Ted Nugent

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Little Miss Can't Be Wrong - Spin Doctors

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Today at 3:01 PM

Jump Down, Spin Around - Harry Belafonte

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SuperDish_Fan23

Last reply Today at 4:24 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Its crazy how the ViP922 is so rare for no reason.

Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!

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dishdude

Monday at 5:05 PM

I had one, the front panel lighting was cool, the menus were fresh and a lot more modern looking than the ViPs. However, it was very buggy and the Sling functionality just didn't work well - I think it was due to internet speeds at the time. I think I had to pay $40 for the Sling app on my phone iirc.

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MikeD-C05

Today at 1:10 PM

dishdude said:
I had one, the front panel lighting was cool, the menus were fresh and a lot more modern looking than the ViPs. However, it was very buggy and the Sling functionality just didn't work well - I think it was due to internet speeds at the time. I think I had to pay $40 for the Sling app on my phone iirc.

I had both the 921 and the 922. I used to buy them from DishDepot.com in Florida and trade in my older owned receiver towards the newest receiver. The 921 was a reboot receiver and the sling part was hit or miss. I look back on all those receivers I paid for over 25 years and I think it was just TV. If I had that money back now I would be lot richer. My Owned Hopper 3 is sitting in a drawer in my office not being used.

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telstar_1

Today at 1:33 PM

That was part of the Ergen scheme, to sell the product as well as the service. And who didn't want the best box?

Maybe they went to the hopper because they were running out of 3-digit model #s- 1022 would have been kinda clunky. Folks would have tried to say "one-thousand and twenty two" instead of "ten-twenty-two".

Like some say "two thousand and twenty six".

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Strega

Today at 2:34 PM

That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.

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KAB

Today at 4:24 PM

922 was a train wreck. The end!

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KAB

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Last reply Today at 4:00 PM · posted in TV Shows

Terminal List- Amazon

Much better than the critics would want you to believe. Only problem, the last guy was pretty obvious a couple of episodes in.

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reubenray

Jul 4, 2022

I have watched three episodes so far and I like it.

thomasjk

Jul 4, 2022

As do I.

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Aug 20, 2026

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October 21 on Prime

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osu1991

Today at 4:00 PM

Season 2 out now on Prime

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Last reply Today at 3:56 PM · posted in TV Shows

Amazon Prime: The Rings of Power

Amazon Sets 'The Lord of the Rings' TV Series In Mega Deal With Multi-Season Commitment

$250 Million just for the rights to make something :eeek

The LOTR original series, a prequel to Tolkien's The Fellowship of the Ring, will be produced by Amazon Studios in cooperation with the Tolkien Estate and Trust; HarperCollins; and New Line Cinema, a division of Warner Bros. Entertainment, which produced the hugely successful LOTR movie franchise.

Set in Middle Earth, the television adaptation will explore new storylines preceding Tolkien's The Fellowship of the Ring.

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long_time_Dish

Nov 9, 2024

Two friends recommended this show to me and I was hooked by the second ep of season 1! Production values are amazing and the episode runtimes are (typically) over an hour, which makes it really easy get hooked on the story because they're playing it out with movie-like pacing rather than a 34-40 minute episode. Acting and casting is really good as well!

I got started on season 2 a few nights ago and was wondering if anyone else is watching?

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Bruce

Nov 9, 2024

long_time_DNC said:
Two friends recommended this show to me and I was hooked by the second ep of season 1! Production values are amazing and the episode runtimes are (typically) over an hour, which makes it really easy get hooked on the story because they're playing it out with movie-like pacing rather than a 34-40 minute episode. Acting and casting is really good as well!

I got started on season 2 a few nights ago and was wondering if anyone else is watching?

I am amazed you like it.

Made it thru season 1, thought it was terrible, but wanted to give it a chance, made it to halfway on Season 2, Episode 2, just could not take it anymore.

It like they took the worse Lord of the Rings fan-fiction off the internet and made it into a TV Series.

Yes, the production values are high, but that does not make it into a good series.

long_time_Dish

Nov 11, 2024

Bruce said:
I am amazed you like it.

Made it thru season 1, thought it was terrible, but wanted to give it a chance, made it to halfway on Season 2, Episode 2, just could not take it anymore.

It like they took the worse Lord of the Rings fan-fiction off the internet and made it into a TV Series.

Yes, the production values are high, but that does not make it into a good series.

They're taking a lot of this from The Silmarillion, of which I'm not quite a third of the way through yet, and sure, they've invented some new people, places and situations, but it's still (IMHO) a really good prequel to LOTR. Having only just started season 2, I'm still enjoying it quite a bit. I'm really not seeing the fan-fic angle in it. If season 2 proves to be as enjoyable as season 1 was for me, I'd sure like to see a 3rd season.

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long_time_Dish

Nov 13, 2024

Up to s2, ep4. Didn't like episode 3 quite as much as the rest, but episode 4 was terrific!

osu1991

Today at 3:56 PM

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