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ride525

Last reply Sep 10, 2003 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

How is the reception on the 6000 receiver?

Just curious how those of you that had experience with the 6000 receiver liked it.

Does it do a good job of satellite reception (HD and SD).

How is it for OTA reception?

How does it compare with some of the Directv receivers (Sony, Zenith, Samsung, Hughes)

Thanks

Jeff

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ride525

Sep 9, 2003

I have a huge Radio Shack outdoor antenna, with a rotor....so sounds like I will be in good shape for my HD receiver.

Thanks for your replies, and any more that come...

Jeff

davhol

Sep 9, 2003

As for my experience with a 6000/8VSB/8PSK, there are no different "problems" than with my 501 -- that is to say, that for satellite broadcasts, I see no problems -- except when there is either a severe storm south of me and it starts to obscure the satellite(s) or if there is a severe storm in the vicinity of one of the uplink centers (Wyo, Ariz). For OTA signals, likewise I have no _major_ problems except for the (digital) PSIP problems the 6000 exhibits. The problems have lessened with recent firmware upgrades, but some issues still survive: when a local broadcaster has PSIP computer problems, the 6000 will get confused if you try to tune to that channel/subchannel. For example, in Salt Lake City, the local PBS affiliate broadcasts digitally on UHF 42. It has PSIP info for 7.1, 7.2 and 7.3. If the PSIP computer goes down and you try to tune to 7.2 (the HD subchannel), the box will hang (used to reboot with older firmware) and you'll probably end up on some other OTA channel. You then find out that you have 42.1, 42.2 and 42.3 in your (all) channel lineup. When they get the PSIP computer working again and you try to tune to 42.2, you will again get the box to hang and, occasionally crash. Dish is working on getting some of these issues fixed. The other "major" issue is that if you remain on an OTA channel and your guide data expires and then you hit the Program Guide button, you'll see a "Acquiring Satellite Signal" message on the screen for as long as it takes to re-update the internal tables (2-3 minutes). This can be annoying so you eventually learn to ALWAYS go to a satellite channel BEFORE you press the guide button. For me, these are minor issues and I deal with them, for others, with less/non-technical spouses/familymembers, they can be a MAJOR PITA. I don't use the 6000's analog OTA capabilities as I only watch the digital broadcasts OTA.

Wally

Sep 9, 2003

Had the 4000 first, then the 6000. It's been a fine receiver, though it is an older technology: no weather special channel, guide is slow and not much shows up at one time (screen). SD channels should be watched through the S-Video or composite ports. HD has been just great, though, very good quality. OTA was temporarily installed, and seemed sensitive enough, though I didn't like the fan noise (some say you can just disconnect it).

scottcorinna

Sep 9, 2003

So So OA Reception

I live on the backside of a hill and the OTA reception from the 6000 can be ify. I bought a Zenith OTA reciever to do a comparison and the Zenith did a much better job of holding the signal. ( I assume because it has newer/better 8vsb chips.)

I'm hoping the the 921 will have the newer/better 8vsb chips in them.

brentp

Sep 10, 2003

The 6000 is OK, . . . given all the items discussed already. It really is an older technology receiver. I recently upgraded my last 4000 to a 508, and now I notice that the picture on my big screen from the 508 looks much better than from the 6000. I am using component output of the 6000 and the SD picture is being upconverted to 1080i. Seeing one of the above posts that you should use the S-Video output for SD broadcast may now explain this. I assumed it might be newer technology in the 508, . . . but it may simply be that the 6000 does a poor job of upconverting the decompressed SD signal to 1080i format (hence why the suggestion to use S-Video for SD shows). HD looks great, and the OTA works really good if you can get a solid signal. As mentioned, it is a bit noisy.

One real big PITA for me is that the 6000 can not output HD and SD at the same time, . . . the 811 is suppose to. I have a single media rack and send my 2 receiver outputs (plus DVD and VHS) through a whole house distribution system. So, . . . when the 6000 is outputting in 1080i, I don't get that video broadcast anywhere else in the house (I do get the audio). If I switch to SD output mode, I loose the video off of the composite cables, . . . which mean I loose video from my wide screen (I know, I could use S-Video, . . . but I already have a number of components hooked up and don't want to double up from a single source).

This all forces me to basically use the 6000 solely for the theater room and the 508 for the rest of the house, . . . which cause new problems. I really am down to 1 channel for the ROTH, . . . and if I am watching a local digital station on the 6000, . . . there is about a 4 second audio/video delay between the 6000 & 508 (due to transmission from the local to Dish and then back to the 508). So, as I leave the theater room (to go to the refrig or bathroom), and the channel is on in another room, it gets a bit annoying. This really gets annoying when a sporting event is on and you will hear the cheers from one room first, followed about 4 seconds later from the other room. I've lived with it to get HD, . . . but can't wait for the 811 to start shipping so that I can get both HD & SD outputs at the same time (and I am assuming they will be in sync). I am also hoping that with the 811 using the newest technology chipsets, that the video for SD broadcasts will be as crisp as the 508, even after the upconvert.

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SuperDish_Fan23

Last reply A moment ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Its crazy how the ViP922 is so rare for no reason.

Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!

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HipKat

Monday at 8:55 AM

I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.

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telstar_1

Monday at 1:22 PM

HipKat said:
I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.

I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.

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Nominal

Monday at 4:30 PM

telstar_1 said:
I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.

You are thinking of the 921. The 922 was the first DVR with Sling functionality built in (that was eventually disabled along with the Sling Adapter for the 722s and the 1st Hopper because they relied on now-defunct Adobe Flash technology). With the bugginess described by others and the removal of its marquee feature (Sling) the 922 faded into obscurity once the Hopper 2 with built in Sling was released and they finally made the concept into a fully functional product.

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dishdude

Monday at 5:05 PM

I had one, the front panel lighting was cool, the menus were fresh and a lot more modern looking than the ViPs. However, it was very buggy and the Sling functionality just didn't work well - I think it was due to internet speeds at the time. I think I had to pay $40 for the Sling app on my phone iirc.

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MikeD-C05

Today at 1:10 PM

dishdude said:
I had one, the front panel lighting was cool, the menus were fresh and a lot more modern looking than the ViPs. However, it was very buggy and the Sling functionality just didn't work well - I think it was due to internet speeds at the time. I think I had to pay $40 for the Sling app on my phone iirc.

I had both the 921 and the 922. I used to buy them from DishDepot.com in Florida and trade in my older owned receiver towards the newest receiver. The 921 was a reboot receiver and the sling part was hit or miss. I look back on all those receivers I paid for over 25 years and I think it was just TV. If I had that money back now I would be lot richer. My Owned Hopper 3 is sitting in a drawer in my office not being used.

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telstar_1

Today at 1:33 PM

That was part of the Ergen scheme, to sell the product as well as the service. And who didn't want the best box?

Maybe they went to the hopper because they were running out of 3-digit model #s- 1022 would have been kinda clunky. Folks would have tried to say "one-thousand and twenty two" instead of "ten-twenty-two".

Like some say "two thousand and twenty six".

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Strega

A moment ago

That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.

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dishstaller

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 12 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

You can't even trust the cost per ounce info in grocery stores anymore

I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share

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Juan

Today at 11:17 AM

dishstaller said:
I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share

When walmart set a price...they weigh the container and the product...the product label only shows the weight of the product...I am sure if you brought your own plastic baggies to bring the product home you could get the cheaper price

dishstaller

Today at 11:47 AM

Juan said:
When walmart set a price...they weigh the container and the product...

Then they are stupid. Everyone knows that the price per ounce should be the price per ounce of actual product.

b4pjoe

Today at 12:41 PM

Meat with a bone in it. It contributes to the weight.

harshness

Today at 12:57 PM

b4pjoe said:
Meat with a bone in it. It contributes to the weight.

Bone-in is a well-known and often prized attribute. Adding the tray and the film isn't right.

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Juan

56 minutes ago

dishstaller said:
Then they are stupid. Everyone knows that the price per ounce should be the price per ounce of actual product.

You are paying for the whole thing

telstar_1

12 minutes ago

Juan said:
You are paying for the whole thing

Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.

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Former member 209992

Last reply 25 minutes ago · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center

Site is slooooow

For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.

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navychop

Saturday at 3:39 PM

Nature will develop better idiots.

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TRG

Saturday at 4:19 PM

navychop said:
Nature will develop better idiots.

God help us.

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Scott Greczkowski

Monday at 11:15 AM

I guess this is what the downtime was about.

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Scott Greczkowski

Today at 11:18 AM

Just a heads up... I just patched our PHP to close the major PHP exploit announced this morning.

Now on PHP 8.4.27 (cli) (built: Oct 20 2026 00:00:00)

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Foxbat

26 minutes ago

I saw that, wasn't sure if PHP was employed by XenForo or not.

PHP warns it plans to release 2 emergency patches imminently

Unconfirmed report claims PHP2Shell exploit remotely executes code on PHP sites.

arstechnica.com

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Scott Greczkowski

25 minutes ago

Yup thats what xenforo is written in, php.

But all patched now.

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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply Today at 1:24 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

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Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

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Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Today at 10:40 AM

Where's My Thing? - Rush

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Today at 11:08 AM

I Don't Wanna Miss a Thing - Aerosmith

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Today at 11:20 AM

Good Golly, Miss Molly - Little Richard

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Today at 11:42 AM

Little Miss Dangerous - Ted Nugent

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Today at 1:24 PM

Little Miss Can't Be Wrong - Spin Doctors

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reubenray

Last reply Today at 1:17 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish vs Streaming Apps?

Every time my Dish contract comes up I weigh the options of keeping Dish or switch to streaming. Right now I can watch/record the OTA channels vis my HDHomerun. I also can stream CBS and NBC via the Paramount+ and Peacock apps. What I would need to find is how to watch the Food Network, HGTV, Syfy, USA, Hallmark channels, Great American Family, Lifetime channels plus a few more with an app or two. My current Dish bill is $118, so I should be able to get a few apps for a lot less.

Any suggestions? I would want the best picture quality and audio quality I could get.

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Bruce

Today at 1:17 PM

reubenray said:
Every time my Dish contract comes up I weigh the options of keeping Dish or switch to streaming. Right now I can watch/record the OTA channels vis my HDHomerun. I also can stream CBS and NBC via the Paramount+ and Peacock apps. What I would need to find is how to watch the Food Network, HGTV, Syfy, USA, Hallmark channels, Great American Family, Lifetime channels plus a few more with an app or two. My current Dish bill is $118, so I should be able to get a few apps for a lot less.

Any suggestions? I would want the best picture quality and audio quality I could get.

USA and SyFy content is on Peacock, you can the rest of those channels via Philo, only $25 a month.

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dfergie

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!

Last reply Today at 11:26 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Gas Price Info With National Gas Temperature Map

Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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harshness

Sunday at 11:30 AM

I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.

harshness

Yesterday at 5:32 PM

harshness said:
I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.

It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.

Foxbat

Yesterday at 8:39 PM

harshness said:
It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.

Does that raise, or lower, the overall price? Our State Government has been doing everything it can to minimize the impact of the current situation and put a freeze on the State Taxes on fuel sales at the pump. That's why we're still under $4.00/gal. while across the border in Michigan it's much higher.

Bobby

Yesterday at 9:05 PM

Foxbat said:
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price? Our State Government has been doing everything it can to minimize the impact of the current situation and put a freeze on the State Taxes on fuel sales at the pump. That's why we're still under $4.00/gal. while across the border in Michigan it's much higher.

Winter blend is cheaper than Summer blend.

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Bobby

Today at 11:21 AM

Regular$5.839
Premium$6.299
Diesel$7.999
at Costco, Rohnert Park.

harshness

Today at 11:26 AM

Foxbat said:
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price?

Winter blend is reportedly 10-30 cents cheaper, but I would point out that prices have dropped as much as 62 cents at RP.

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Today at 10:52 AM · posted in BooredAtWork.COM

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Gary Toma

Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge

Last reply Today at 10:40 AM · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum

DIRECTV Transponder Map ~ Data 10/14/2026

The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:

National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)

Additional tabs provide:

OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders

Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions

DIRECTV_TPN_Map_261014.xlsx 1,874 KB

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KyL416

Yesterday at 2:37 PM

WCWW/25 CW South Bend and WBKP/5 CW Marquette are now testing on the stream server. These are both already available on satellite.

Now live in the satellite guide:
663-2 PISTONS (663-1 is likely being reserved for an overflow feed of Detroit Sportsnet, if there's a 2027 MLB season)
675 THUNDER
693 CLIPPERS

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doctor J

Today at 7:22 AM

DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for Oct 21 2026

Comparison of Transponder Data for Oct 21 2026 vs Oct 14 2026:

No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

Changes to the use of defined transponders:

1 Transponder cleared of all Streams::
Net 10 TID 126 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D11@99cb, TPN 3

1 Previously unused Transponder with current APG records::
Net 15 TID 15 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D12@103ca, TPN 16

Stream (PID) counts:

LIVE Streams	National		Spot Beams
	Count	Change	Count	Change
4K	4
HD	264	2	1449
SD mpeg4	145		194
SD mpeg2	433
RB
Audio	89
Push	26
Slate	19		1

TEST Streams	National		Spot Beams
	Count	Change	Count	Change
4K
HD			1
SD mpeg4
SD mpeg2
RB
Engr Work	38	-2

The PID count Excel workbook provides much more count detail.

Newly updated tables of Streams on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

More details of changes in individual channels will follow in the Weekly Analysis
and Gary Toma's Domestic TPN Map Excel files

NBA Updates
Weekly Analysis soon
Enjoy
DataDigesters

doctor J

Today at 7:23 AM

weekly Analysis for 10/21/2026:

Weekly_Analysis_261021.xlsx 16 KB

KyL416

Today at 7:25 AM

HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps

Mr Tony

Today at 10:40 AM

KyL416 said:
HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps

Wait…..
So even though DAZN keeps touting 'only way to see games' if you are a subscriber to Choice (like my stepdad) if an agreement is reached he can see the Wolfies on 668?
I know the Wild are in dispute and a slate is on 668-1.

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Today at 10:32 AM · posted in Marques Brownlee

ASMR iPhone Duo Unboxing

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