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It's not because they have less copy protection. They have the same opinion that I do.

HD DVD is much more consumer friendly (e.g., no region coding, AACS not mandatory). Don't give your money to people, who throw your fair-use rights out of the window.

It's all about not supporting those who want to take your rights away!

Digital Dude said:

It's not because they have less copy protection. They have the same opinion that I do.

HD DVD is much more consumer friendly (e.g., no region coding, AACS not mandatory). Don't give your money to people, who throw your fair-use rights out of the window.

It's all about not supporting those who want to take your rights away!

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Are there any HD-DVD titles not using AACS?

The no region coding is nice, but I think I've bought 6 non R1 DVDs ever.

chicagofilms said:

Are there any HD-DVD titles not using AACS?

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HD DVD-ROM (stamped, not burned) can be AACS free.
BD-ROM - have to have AACS, burned BDs - don't.

Diogen.

diogen said:

HD DVD-ROM (stamped, not burned) can be AACS free.
BD-ROM - have to have AACS, burned BDs - don't.

Diogen.

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Well, they could just give away every movie for free too...

chicagofilms said:

Well, they could just give away every movie for free too...

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That business modell is not sustainable...
This is a topic as sensitive as Kyoto, Iraq, HD vs. BD, etc. and any rational discussion is always very short...

The one main argument studios use "We have to do this or we'll go under" doesn't have merits, I believe.
And the DVD history is the best proof: the protection (CSS) was hacked in the last century and the studios
were doing some $20 bln per year. The most successful format ever!

Diogen.

Only way to beat slysoft is to remove the keys for the software players, and not allow HD material to be played on PCs. It is impossible to secure a software player. Even Vista with all its wizbang security features cannot defeat a PC emulator.

mike123abc said:

Only way to beat slysoft is to remove the keys for the software players, and not allow HD material to be played on PCs.

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First, this is very unlikely to happen since lawsuits will be flying between player makers and AACS LA.
Second, it's too late. Unlike SACD, HD/BD is readable on PC and that can't be undone. As soon as BD+ is brocken, there is a good chance an independent player can be built to play HD/BD.
Third, I'm not sure it is their goal to make it completely unhackable... Since this could mean complete irrelevance of both formats.

Diogen.

ONUOsFan

Nice try, but your missing the point. I have backed up my DVD's for a few years now, the law allows me to make up to on back up copy of anything I own. As for your netflix/blockbuster arguement, that's bunk. The average consumer even withn the ability to rip movies we don't own will still buy that nice box. I.E. I had a copy of LOTR before it was released. As soon as it was released I went and bought the set. Besides what's the difference with recording HBO from your VCR back in the day. Did that stop movie sales? (hell no). So i'm not buying your line about it hurts the studio. The only reason we don't record more HD from Cable/sat is because of the HDCP debacle. DRM is going down, hell Allofmp3 / mp3sparks have it right already. As soon as I found out about them 3 years ago Apple was dead to me. Not soo much because of the price difference, but because of zero DRM from the get go. Are they probably screwing the artists.., probably..., but here's a novel concept why not simply adopt their business model and level the playing field (but the music industry can't do that because they would give some but not all power to the consumer.... freakin idiots). They (the RIAA) would probably make a hell of a lot more money if they had a clue. I'm damn just plain tired of coporate greed. The format war is the main thing hurting the studios profits which was stupid to begin with. Slysoft simply and rightly raised the consumer middle finger to the "man" and said to hell to both of them. You freakin clowns (sony & toshiba) can't get your crap together then the consumer is marching on without you.

ocnier said:

ONUOsFan

Nice try, but your missing the point. I have backed up my DVD's for a few years now, the law allows me to make up to on back up copy of anything I own. As for your netflix/blockbuster arguement, that's bunk. The average consumer even withn the ability to rip movies we don't own will still buy that nice box. I.E. I had a copy of LOTR before it was released. As soon as it was released I went and bought the set. Besides what's the difference with recording HBO from your VCR back in the day. Did that stop movie sales? (hell no). So i'm not buying your line about it hurts the studio. The only reason we don't record more HD from Cable/sat is because of the HDCP debacle. DRM is going down, hell Allofmp3 / mp3sparks have it right already. As soon as I found out about them 3 years ago Apple was dead to me. Not soo much because of the price difference, but because of zero DRM from the get go. Are they probably screwing the artists.., probably..., but here's a novel concept why not simply adopt their business model and level the playing field (but the music industry can't do that because they would give some but not all power to the consumer.... freakin idiots). They (the RIAA) would probably make a hell of a lot more money if they had a clue. I'm damn just plain tired of coporate greed. The format war is the main thing hurting the studios profits which was stupid to begin with. Slysoft simply and rightly raised the consumer middle finger to the "man" and said to hell to both of them. You freakin clowns (sony & toshiba) can't get your crap together then the consumer is marching on without you.

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I don't remember ever mentioning Netflix or Blockbuster, but ok....

And I don't think everyone else is as noble as you are. If they get a copy for free, they're not going to run to the store to pay $25 for the same thing, just to get the "nice box." If you want to believe that, though, go ahead.

It's pretty simple, really. They are in business to make money. The more copies they sell, the more money they make. The more people are making "free" copies, the less they sell and the less money they make. If I was them, I'd try to stop it, too.