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gabshere

Last reply Nov 16, 2007 · posted in C-BAND Satellite Discussion

bcs621 feedhorn alignment

Well i figured i would start a thread and just link it to Linuxman's .
we were adjusting the feedhorns I have a bsc621 ( actually i have two)

i first took readings with my Coolsat 5000 and then used my Traxis 3500
my polarity mark was pointing to 12:00 ( but was at 6:00)
i did adjust it to 8:00 and lost signal and moved it to 7:00 then to 4:00 then to 5:30 and reset it back to the original 6:00 . Now the main problem i actually think i'm having is the feedhorn has a lot of room to move in the scaler and it hard to get it level or straight in the scaler and the metal feedhorn is very easy to indent with the lockdown bolt.

......................................Coolsat 5K...Traxis ( before) Traxis (after)Coolsat 5K
G27 - 129W 11964 H Ku.....69% SQ........68% SQ........63% SQ........ no signal
G10 - 123W 11720 V Ku.....91% SQ........73% SQ........73%SQ.........88%SQ
G10 - 123W 3841...............94%SQ.........80%SQ..........80%SQ........94%SQ
G11 - 91W 3721 H C-Band 91% SQ.......78% SQ.........80%SQ.......94%SQ
G11 - 91W 12059 V Ku no signal.......no signal.......17%SQ no channel 63%SQ
AMC3 - 87W 12144 H Ku no signal........no signal........17%SQno channel 63%SQ
AMC2/16 - 85W 12195 H Ku 63%SQ........17%SQ no channel 23%SQno channel 66%SQ
G17 - 74W 11734 H Ku.........90% SQ........72% SQ........80%SQ.......94%SQ
AMC6 - 72W 12053 V Ku.......69% SQ........65-67% SQ.....67%SQ.......69%SQ
AMC6 - 72W 4040 V C-Band..87-90% SQ....71% SQ........72%SQ.......90-91%SQ

i still need a better method to check to see if its correctly seated into the scaler ( i suspect it wouldn't take a whole lot to be off and every little bit is throwing me off. i will try again to gain some center area of the arc I did lose ground in the center of my arc spirit TV on 87W was at 87 on the coolsat and now is at 70

included are pics of the old bsc621 with adjustment arrow and newer bsc621 with a number scale

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linuxman

Nov 16, 2007

Find the sat and measure the angle its at,extend the actuator 15 clicks out from the internal stop,then loosen the clamp and slide the mount to the same angle you found that sat at before.Tighten the clamp and your all set.

That's good advice if you do use the auto tune. I've never had much success with it. I have always just manually tuned in every satellite. Course you see how picky I am.

I have hit the button accidentally once or twice, and you are right it will swing a ways each way.

Fred

gabshere

Nov 16, 2007

its ok i can reset the v-box so its centered again and i think i can reload my channel list with the locations and they will be close

lol got to try it anyway

gpat

Nov 16, 2007

linuxman said:
That's good advice if you do use the auto tune. I've never had much success with it. I have always just manually tuned in every satellite. Course you see how picky I am.

I have hit the button accidentally once or twice, and you are right it will swing a ways each way.

Fred

I use the auto tune to get close and the auto skew then manually peak them both going back and forth a couple of times.
My old GI analog which I still use in a pinch would save each setting for each channel and I found that the skew was off on some vs others.

gabshere

Nov 16, 2007

ok after i tweaked the dish today , i rotated the whole dish toward the east and you won't beleive how much the adjustment was.......3/32 of an inch .... lol ok but i added another update to the readings

......................................Coolsat 5K...Traxis ( before) Traxis (after)Coolsat 5K..... Coolsat 5K
........................................................................adjusting feedhorn.......................after dish adjustment
gained 139W ** got weird tp on this on high SQ but not listed at lyngsat
gained 137W .........................................................................................................at 87%SQ
G27 - 129W 11964 H Ku.....69% SQ........68% SQ.......63% SQ........ .....n/s............66%SQ
G10 - 123W 11720 V Ku.....91% SQ........73% SQ.......73%SQ.........88%SQ ..........90%SQ
G10 - 123W 3841...............94%SQ..........80%SQ........80 %SQ........94%SQ............94%SQ
G11 - 91W 3721 H C-Band 91% SQ.........78% SQ.......80%SQ.........94%SQ ............94%SQ
G11 - 91W 12059 V Ku........n/s................n/s...............17%SQ..n/c..63%SQ..............63%SQ
AMC3 - 87W 12144 H Ku ......n/s.............n/s................17%SQ..n/c..63%SQ.............63%SQ
AMC2/16 - 85W 12195 H Ku 63%SQ........17%SQ...n/c.23%SQ...n/c.. 66%SQ..........69%SQ ** gain**
G17 - 74W 11734 H Ku.........90% SQ........72% SQ......80%SQ.......94%SQ...............96-97%SQ ** gain**
AMC6 - 72W 12053 V Ku.......69% SQ......65-67% SQ.....67%SQ.......69%SQ............88-90%SQ ** big gain**
AMC6 - 72W 4040 V C-Band..87-90% SQ....71% SQ........72%SQ.......90-91%SQ......91-93%SQ ** gain**
gained 58W C-band 4125 H ........................................................................................ 94-95%SQ

well i gained almost across the board the center is still off... i will go out tomorrow ( hopefully if its warm) and check the dish (push pull lift & push down on it) at the east west and center of the arc to see where i am it is closer than it was.

linuxman

Nov 16, 2007

Hey George,

It's looking a lot better.

WooHoo!!

Congratulations!!
Fred

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AT&T runs First Net which was set up so first responders have a signal almost everywhere, which is the case around here and up and down the east coast when I've been traveling. In my experience T-Mobile has the fastest network but patchy coverage while Verizon has a slow network and also patchy coverage as well. We also have a iPhone on T-Mobile and one on Mobile-X which uses the Verizon network, so comparison is easy.

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JSheridan said:
AT&T runs First Net which was set up so first responders have a signal almost everywhere, which is the case around here and up and down the east coast when I've been traveling. In my experience T-Mobile has the fastest network but patchy coverage while Verizon has a slow network and also patchy coverage as well. We also have a iPhone on T-Mobile and one on Mobile-X which uses the Verizon network, so comparison is easy.

I did a 2500 mile round trip road trip a few weeks ago, there were a handful of places where Verizon had service and I had nothing on FirstNet. Most notably in the backwoods of Kentucky and Tennessee. Those same places I had no service on T-Mobile either. In populated areas, like the Lexington metro and Knoxville metro AT&T not only had great coverage, better than Verizon and T-Mobile generally, they have n77 everywhere. I hit 1.2 Gbps or higher pretty much everywhere, beating out the other two. That is the exact opposite here back in Western NY. Very little n77 on AT&T here and T-Mobile always rockets to 1.5 Gbps or higher.

As far as I know, there is no AT&T tower in my town. The tower I connect to when I'm outside, no service indoors, is one about 4.5 miles north of me in a different town, I can barley latch on to band 12, not 14. It's LTE only but when near that tower I exceed 200 Mbps which is phenomenal for low band LTE, but T-Mobile and Verizon have mid band on the same tower, and i'm well over a gig.

I'm looking forward to the n14 conversion and deployment of n79/4.9 GHz. Since AT&T can't sell their home internet service in NY State, I don't expect big things from them besides the enhancements to FirstNet.

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JSheridan

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EarDemon said:
... Since AT&T can't sell their home internet service in NY State, I don't expect big things from them besides the enhancements to FirstNet.

We're in NY and we can now. We're an AT&T retailer and have been selling AT&T Internet Air for a few months. It's $35 a month if you're an AT&T post paid subscriber, $55 a month if you're not a subscriber.

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Almighty1

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JSheridan said:
We're in NY and we can now. We're an AT&T retailer and have been selling AT&T Internet Air for a few months. It's $35 a month if you're an AT&T post paid subscriber, $55 a month if you're not a subscriber.

The AT&T Internet that everyone has access to is AT&T WorldNet aka att.com which is the same backbone created in 1994 that is a joke. AT&T has 3 Internet tier 1 backbones. AT&T Global Network Services formerly IBM Global Network Services (prserv.net) and AT&T Emerging Network Services, formerly (CERFNet (California Educational and Research Foundation Network) that was part of NSFNet (National Science Foundation Network). AT&T WorldNet has always been a inferior and not the same quality as the other two which are highly respected.

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comfortably_numb

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Almighty1 said:
The AT&T Internet that everyone has access to is AT&T WorldNet aka att.com which is the same backbone created in 1994 that is a joke

JSheridan is referring to ATT's (relatively) new 5G cellular home internet.

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 9:18 PM

comfortably_numb said:
JSheridan is referring to ATT's (relatively) new 5G cellular home internet.

I know, that still will use AT&T's 1996 created backbone better known as AS 7018 which is the lower end. The other two are higher end under AS2685 & AS2686 & AS1740 & AS1838.

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Juan

Yesterday at 10:10 PM

comfortably_numb said:
JSheridan is referring to ATT's (relatively) new 5G cellular home internet.

Which connects to a backbone network

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comfortably_numb

Yesterday at 11:17 PM

Juan said:
Which connects to a backbone network

Fun fact.. the backhaul to the tower in Drexel, MO for both VZW and ATT is provided by CenturyLink

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