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[VOOM] OTA Scanning

How is this done? I can find the hide function, but it sounds like I
should be able to scan through and see what hits. I was installed
about 3 months ago, have the 6.10.



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smata671
[VOOM] Re: OTA Scanning

I am at work, so can't confirm, but "tune antenna" was not an option
on the service menu for me. On a different subject, the box locked
up when I attempted a report back.



--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "kfried001" <kfried@c...> wrote:
> Go into the installers menu and first choose the tune antenna

option
> and enter an RF that gives you the best reception.
>
> Then scan the channels. You will see the channels show up on the
> screen as the hits are found. When complete, press the green button
> to store and save the channels.
>
> Ken
>
> --- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "smata671" <smata671@y...> wrote:
> > How is this done? I can find the hide function, but it sounds

> like I
> > should be able to scan through and see what hits. I was

installed
> > about 3 months ago, have the 6.10.




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hobesounddarryl
[VOOM] Re: OTA Scanning

Smata, the menu is "installation wizard", the first menu of 4 in the installers menu section.
This should lead you to a number of options- 2 of which allowing local channel scanning.

--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "smata671" <smata671@y...> wrote:
> I am at work, so can't confirm, but "tune antenna" was not an option
> on the service menu for me. On a different subject, the box locked
> up when I attempted a report back.
>
>
>
> --- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "kfried001" <kfried@c...> wrote:
> > Go into the installers menu and first choose the tune antenna

> option
> > and enter an RF that gives you the best reception.
> >
> > Then scan the channels. You will see the channels show up on the
> > screen as the hits are found. When complete, press the green button
> > to store and save the channels.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> > --- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "smata671" <smata671@y...> wrote:
> > > How is this done? I can find the hide function, but it sounds

> > like I
> > > should be able to scan through and see what hits. I was

> installed
> > > about 3 months ago, have the 6.10.




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Charli
[VOOM] Re: OTA Scanning

> enter an RF that gives you the best reception.
hey Ken : )

After noting the rf of the station I no longer get since the 6.10
changeover (The WB rf=40 and signal strength is 99!)
I put that number into the aim antenna function but nothing seems to
change what's happening.
The problem is that scan locks in 18 channels at between 97-99
strength across the entire spectrum and it doen't seem to matter what
rf I put in (I don't understand rf too well)
Anyway,
This is a one-directional long range yagi with a preamp that used to
reach strictly north out to the purple zone. It now has channels
north, west and south at 97-99 strength but since yesterday morning,
a
lot of the stations the came in now say--no signal received.

voom cust service didn't know the answer but obviously it's a mapping
issue. (map says 24) I don't get it (???) It is not a signal
strength problem, it seems to be an antenna power problem such as now
that the antenna is receiving channels in a radius instead of a
straight line in one direction the power range is in the 30's.
In the installation wizard after setting antenna aim and channel scan
the next on the check list is "Activate Box" We need an installers
number to do that but I wonder if that final step is needed to lock
in
all the newly scanned channels. Customer service didn't know but
thought it was an interesting question. : D
Charli



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smata671
It appears that the reception quality is up on all the channels. Is
this a numbers game or is reception actually better? Also, please
explain the use of the RF number. Is this to aim antenna?



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Charli
[VOOM] Re: OTA Scanning

my current system status is: sat strength-96
ota strength-99
sat signal power/SNR= 73/15.00(+-)
ota signal power/SNR= 82/31.00-33.00
authorized status= SWO

ota 20 channels found between rf 29 thru 59
rf 59 strength is 99; rf 60-69 strength= zero
locked antenna aim at rf 59 baltimore channel 11 nbc (red zone)
The WB channel at 40rf (baltimore-violet zone) (strength 99) is in
program guide and we used to get it but since version 6.10 it says no
signal received.
Tried locking rf at 40 (WB in purple zone) but had no effect,
changing
antenna aim in general seems to not matter.
Does anybody know what I'm doing wrong?
Thanks,
Charli

--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "Charli" <dragonstar@c...> wrote:
> > enter an RF that gives you the best reception.

> hey Ken : )
>
> After noting the rf of the station I no longer get since the 6.10
> changeover (The WB rf=40 and signal strength is 99!)
> I put that number into the aim antenna function but nothing seems

to
> change what's happening.
> The problem is that scan locks in 18 channels at between 97-99
> strength across the entire spectrum and it doen't seem to matter

what
> rf I put in (I don't understand rf too well)
> Anyway,
> This is a one-directional long range yagi with a preamp that used

to
> reach strictly north out to the purple zone. It now has channels
> north, west and south at 97-99 strength but since yesterday morning,
> a
> lot of the stations the came in now say--no signal received.
>
> voom cust service didn't know the answer but obviously it's a

mapping
> issue. (map says 24) I don't get it (???) It is not a signal
> strength problem, it seems to be an antenna power problem such as

now
> that the antenna is receiving channels in a radius instead of a
> straight line in one direction the power range is in the 30's.
> In the installation wizard after setting antenna aim and channel

scan
> the next on the check list is "Activate Box" We need an installers
> number to do that but I wonder if that final step is needed to lock
> in
> all the newly scanned channels. Customer service didn't know but
> thought it was an interesting question. : D
> Charli




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osu1991
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osu1991
Watched the first episode and enjoyed it.
Foxbat
James Spader gets the best lines so far. I'm enjoying this series.
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Finished the 2nd episode tonight. I'm really liking it so far.

Still hate weekly releases though, especially the way Disney and HBO do it waiting until 8pm to premiere it.
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Apparently I'm not a big enough nerd🤓 since I did not read every Marvel Comic Book ever published. If I had, I might be comparing the comics' version of events compared to what's transpiring in "Visionquest". So, I am enjoying the series a lot, not weighed down by previous expectations, knowing only the Avengers MCU movies and the "Wandavision" / "Agatha All Along" TV series.

I found the Mr Know-it-All channel from his discussion about "Star Trek: Strange New Worlds" and he's been gleefully picking these episodes apart, referencing the Marvel comics from the 1939 on. Turns out A.I. has been around since before World War II, at least in the comics. (Robots before that, yes, yes.) This show is going back into the archives.
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I'm expecting the finale to basically bring Vision into play for the Doomsday movie next month.
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One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

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Highway Song - Blackfoot
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Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
Scott Greczkowski
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
Can't remember where or who I saw predict this. :D

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
Bruce
It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
Scott Greczkowski
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
Bruce
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.
Nebugeater
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.


Just a guess on my part but there may be some value to aquring to get all the retransmision agreements that are in place even though at some point they need to be renewed
Bruce
Bruce
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
If Musk really wants to buy Boost, he might get a great price once Dish Wireless is out of Chapter 11.

Boost just lost 182,000 subs in the 3rd quarter-

M
Is Dish like Iran in one way...they both will totally collapse by end of week :)
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Other than the price, my experience with Boost is not that different than what I experienced with my years with Cricket. I will be curious to see what happens if SpaceX takes the reins.
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teachsac
Dang. That had to hurt. I would have not handled it that well. Surprised it wasn't brought up by Heff at the challenge.
dfergie
First rule - if you get a clue follow it immediately, 2nd - keep your stuff with you in a strange place, 3rd - pay attention to your ride... (pre first - don't go if you think you might not want to stay Rob)
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Loved the tribal🤣
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Happy with the outcome, he was annoying...
M
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I have Dish with Hopper3. I choose to get local channels OTA and had a "guide list" established at my previous home. Having moved a few miles away, I wanted to update the list by appending a couple new stations via a rescan. As many would know, some stations come in with the UHF/VHF antenna aimed in one direction, while others come in better with a different direction.

Unfortunately, when a scan is done (bringing in 25-30 stations for that particular antenna aim), the dialog screen does not present the established guide list; it presents an empty field to the right that the scanned stations may be selected one by one and added to the empty guide. But because of antenna aim, some stations originally saved are missing, and would have to be retrieved with a different antenna aim. But as I explain, if a 2nd​ scan is done with a different antenna aim, the stations saved from the first scan are lost.

It troubles me that Dish didn't develop software that would allow a user to simply append only 1 or 2 channels to the established list. :mad:

Any thought on this? Has anyone experienced this or heard of this from others?
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dishstaller
I could very well be wrong....it has been a LOT of years but back when I had a 722K it seemed like when you went back to the scan screen that you could just scan again and it would ADD those channels to the previous list or you could delete the previous results and only add the channels from the new scan.
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M
Methinks you are wrong, Dishstaller - at least for what I see now..
I so wish that functionality was available ...
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N
I could very well be wrong....it has been a LOT of years but back when I had a 722K it seemed like when you went back to the scan screen that you could just scan again and it would ADD those channels to the previous list or you could delete the previous results and only add the channels from the new scan.
I am not sure about that but I do know that you could manually add additional channels just by entering the actual RF channel number and the older receivers would add the virtual channels to your list
dishstaller
I am not sure about that but I do know that you could manually add additional channels just by entering the actual RF channel number and the older receivers would add the virtual channels to your list
Like I said.....that has been many years ago. Swapped my 722K for a Hopper in 2012.

It does seem like I remember having to delete the existing channels when we did a rescan. Back then our local stations KEPT monkeying around with things and it was non-stop complaints from customers about their channels not coming in. Got so bad that I stopped selling OR installing OTAs....something I had been doing since 1984 so you know it HAD to be pretty bad.
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M
You made one of my points for me with this comment, Dishstaller:

"... local stations KEPT monkeying around with things and it was non-stop complaints from customers about their channels not coming in ..."
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Eagles. Another team that should consider selling some assets. They are going nowhere.
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Balls
Bears. Took care of the elite Seahawks defense in a great performance.
NFC North. The entire division is 2 games above .500
Lions. Finally handed an L to that weird Minnesota team. Good vibes for Jack Campbell.
Pitt. Took the lead of the division convincingly.
Bengals vs Titans game. Fireworks game. Not sure it was a well-played game, but it sure was fun. JoeyB with 6 scores... and 4 turnovers.
Denver. They keep winning, man. Payton is a baller of a coach.
Packers. Thorough beatdown of the hard-to-read Panthers.
Jags. Demolished the hapless Colts.
Rams. The Super team finally wins back-to-back games.


Goats
Vikings. Took their first L. I know their D is insane, but their offense is setting back football to the 1950's.
Cowboys. Lost a 2-score lead vs. the Gardner Minshew-led Cards... at home. Embarrassing.
Browns. Playing for the division lead by scoring 6 points.
Bucs vs Falcons game. Setting modern football back to the ice age. Honorable mention to Tua Penix err ... Michael Tagov .... well, you know what I mean.
Bengals fans acting like Burrow just won the MVP after his performance. I get it. 6 scores is awesome. But. He also turned the ball over 4 times and required overtime to beat the 1-win Titans. So spare me the parade.
Chiefs. Not because they lost. It was a close game decided on the last play vs. a divisional rival on the road. That's always rough. But because of their whining over the CLEAR flag they got on the would-be winning play. They are used to getting the calls, and when they don't, they complain. Honorable mention to Mahomes for this quote: "I mean, at the end of the day, you have to go with whatever is called, but a lot of times in those big moments, the little stuff doesn't get called like that"... so you admit it was a penalty?? Just shut up, man.
Colts. They began the fire sale earlier in the week, and it showed. This team is cooked; Daniel Jones should go to the bench, and Steichen will be fired pretty soon.
Chargers. Wow. That's all I got.
Miami. For having the Pats sort of on the ropes and letting them go.
Eagles. Another team that should consider selling some assets. They are going nowhere.
Mahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.🙄
meStevo
Just the same vilification as players like Brady experienced, a product of their success and largely overblown (just like them 'getting all the calls').
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Mahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.🙄
Well you see him more because he is incredibly talented. And yes, typically players try to spin things being in their favor. This isn't cricket where sportsmanship (except in Australia) is expected.
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HipKat
Mahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.🙄
He wants to be Brady
HipKat
Just the same vilification as players like Brady experienced, a product of their success and largely overblown (just like them 'getting all the calls').
The only people who deny what Brady got from the officials are Brady fans
gms49ers
The NFL, for some time, has protected the marquee quarterbacks. Brady, Mahomes, Allen, Burrow - they all get the calls.
The lower tier QBs don't seem to get the same benefit. For instance, some of the hits that Darnold took from Chicago on Monday night would have been a flag frenzy if any of the marquee QBs were hit like that. And I am not in any way a fan of anything Seahawks related. I am a fan of balanced officiating - and that hasn't been the case for a while.

My team is not immune to this - Fred Warner laid some vicious hits in the Commanders game that I thought should have been flagged - one was, but they picked it up.

Not a good look on NFL officials.