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Sean Mota

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Last reply Dec 16, 2007 · posted in The Sports Section

Will there be surprises in Mitchell's report today?

Besides the names we already know... What other names will be there?

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Paul Wozniak

Dec 14, 2007

That last paragraph about Bonds and Canseco is proof of truth being stranger than fiction. I hadn't thought about it, but I'll bet Canseco's book sells a few more copies this week. As for Clemens, he seems to be taking quite a hit on this. As much as Bonds? Hard to make a qualitive judgement, but in my book this one hurt more. It's sad that the best hitter and pitcher of this era are both fakes. Nice find there ,Salsa.

salsadancer7

Dec 14, 2007

Paul Wozniak said:
That last paragraph about Bonds and Canseco is proof of truth being stranger than fiction. I hadn't thought about it, but I'll bet Canseco's book sells a few more copies this week. As for Clemens, he seems to be taking quite a hit on this. As much as Bonds? Hard to make a qualitive judgement, but in my book this one hurt more. It's sad that the best hitter and pitcher of this era are both fakes. Nice find there ,Salsa.

When the choice in this cruel and lucrative an ecosystem is between being honorable or losing to the guy who isn't, that isn't much of a choice at all. Especially not when a few more miles per hour on your fastball is the difference between the minor leagues and setting yourself up for life with one contract.

THAT section right there is THE most telling of ALL. THAT is why you had so many marginal players on this list. The ANNUAL difference between the BEST PAID minor league and the LOWEST PAID major leaguer is almost $250,000(in average, best paid minor league is about $50,000 and a major league minimum is around $350,000 to $400,000)!!! PLUS pension! I have mentioned before that I am assistance varsity coach at a very prominant cathlolic school whose teams every year are top 10 in the state and top 25 nation wide...it was NOT easy trying to explain this one today!

But in the end...can you REALLY and truly blame a minor leaguer??!! I sure as hell can't.

Paul Wozniak

Dec 14, 2007

The example this sends to our children, IS the biggest reason this needs to cleaned up now. What did you tell your kids?

salsadancer7

Dec 14, 2007

Paul Wozniak said:
The example this sends to our children, IS the biggest reason this needs to cleaned up now. What did you tell your kids?

The truth. They asked me what I THOUGHT....I told them that I could not blame a minor league for doing what they did. I told them that they ALL worked hard to GET to the big leagues, but they(as in some of those marginal players) let their competative juices get the best of them and used steroids. They ALL know that 'roids does not actually BUILD muscle mass, just helps the body recoup faster so you can workout more.....they are NOT dumb.

sidekick

Dec 14, 2007

I can ... It's no different than telling your kids that it's ok to steal. Are you saying that you can't blame a minor leaguer for doing drugs? My goodness Salsa, I hope this isn't the life's lesson you're teaching your athletes. If you can't have honor in your life, it's a life not worth living.

salsadancer7 said:
But in the end...can you REALLY and truly blame a minor leaguer??!! I sure as hell can't.

sidekick

Dec 14, 2007

I just read what you said Salsa and I have to say I'm pretty shocked at the cavalier attitude you used to express your thoughts to your players. they "let their competitive juices get the best of them"? What a load of crap! Sorry Salsa but if I was the admin at your school, you'd be fired. That's just like saying that a rapist let his hormones get the best of him so he raped the girl. Again I'm sorry Salsa, but you seriously need to rethink this one. Your tacit agreement with steroids use by minor leaguers is completely counterproductive to school athletics.

salsadancer7 said:
The truth. They asked me what I THOUGHT....I told them that I could not blame a minor league for doing what they did. I told them that they ALL worked hard to GET to the big leagues, but they(as in some of those marginal players) let their competative juices get the best of them and used steroids. They ALL know that 'roids does not actually BUILD muscle mass, just helps the body recoup faster so you can workout more.....they are NOT dumb.

salsadancer7

Dec 15, 2007

sidekick said:
I can ... It's no different than telling your kids that it's ok to steal. Are you saying that you can't blame a minor leaguer for doing drugs? My goodness Salsa, I hope this isn't the life's lesson you're teaching your athletes. If you can't have honor in your life, it's a life not worth living.

You really need to understand how a professional athlete thinks and you don't. I told my kids that these minor leaguers went to far, they went the way of the short cut...."their competative juices got the best of them". I, as a former professional athlete CANNOT blame the minor leaguers/fringe major leaguers for taking steroids back then because there was no rule in baseball that said you could not take them. Most of them were taking SOMETHING to help them recoup from injuries. You ask ANY OF THEM if they can make the major leagues CLEANLY, they would all give a RESOUNDING YES. Ask them if they want to be a minor leaguer the rest of their lives.....you will get a resounding NO. My kids ask me the for the truth...and I told them. They ALSO know that it is illegal to use them and that are their age, there ARE side effects that carry consequences...again, they are not dumb and they KNOW they are not getting a "go do steroids because I approve of it" speech. I give them ALOT more credit for comprehending what my answer was than you do.

salsadancer7

Dec 15, 2007

sidekick said:
What a load of crap! Sorry Salsa but if I was the admin at your school, you'd be fired. That's just like saying that a rapist let his hormones get the best of him so he raped the girl. Again I'm sorry Salsa, but you seriously need to rethink this one. Your tacit agreement with steroids use by minor leaguers is completely counterproductive to school athletics.

And that is YOUR opinion. I spoke to BOTH the AD and the principles because I have knew there might be some miss understanding or backlash of what I said. I told them EXACTLY what I told my kids. They were not happy with the wording, but they knew I told the THE TRUTH. I didn't sugarcoat nor lie....just the truth.

Tell me, seeing that you brought up the rapist analogy, what do YOU think triggers a rapist? Do you think it is triggered by a song? A commercial for McDonald's? Or maybe an and ad in a magazine about Directv? It is
their urges/hormones/desires.

No need for apologies, I give my kids ALOT more credit then you give them, they knew where I was coming from. They knew I was not agreeing with steroids as much as I can see WHY they would do it.

sidekick

Dec 15, 2007

I neither gave nor withheld credit from your kids. I was disagreeing with your attitude. By not speaking out strongly against the use of steroids you're in essence enabling them and giving them an excuse to experiment. So what you're saying (and this is so bizarre to me) is that we can't fault the kids for following their "urges, hormones, desires")? I'm simply at a loss for words here. Where is the leadership and guidance that adults are supposed to provide? I expected more ....

salsadancer7 said:
And that is YOUR opinion. I spoke to BOTH the AD and the principles because I have knew there might be some miss understanding or backlash of what I said. I told them EXACTLY what I told my kids. They were not happy with the wording, but they knew I told the THE TRUTH. I didn't sugarcoat nor lie....just the truth.

Tell me, seeing that you brought up the rapist analogy, what do YOU think triggers a rapist? Do you think it is triggered by a song? A commercial for McDonald's? Or maybe an and ad in a magazine about Directv? It is
their urges/hormones/desires.

No need for apologies, I give my kids ALOT more credit then you give them, they knew where I was coming from. They knew I was not agreeing with steroids as much as I can see WHY they would do it.

vurbano

Dec 15, 2007

sidekick said:
I neither gave nor withheld credit from your kids. I was disagreeing with your attitude. By not speaking out strongly against the use of steroids you're in essence enabling them and giving them an excuse to experiment. So what you're saying (and this is so bizarre to me) is that we can't fault the kids for following their "urges, hormones, desires")? I'm simply at a loss for words here. Where is the leadership and guidance that adults are supposed to provide? I expected more ....

leadership from Salsa? :haha :haha

salsadancer7

Dec 16, 2007

sidekick said:
I neither gave nor withheld credit from your kids. I was disagreeing with your attitude. By not speaking out strongly against the use of steroids you're in essence enabling them and giving them an excuse to experiment. So what you're saying (and this is so bizarre to me) is that we can't fault the kids for following their "urges, hormones, desires")? I'm simply at a loss for words here. Where is the leadership and guidance that adults are supposed to provide? I expected more ....

I provide plenty of leadership and guidance by telling them the truth....and not sugarcoat things and treat them with respect, not baby them with cute little slogans and wishful thinking. We have 60 kids a year tryout every year for VERY few spots, and those that make it...I tell them the truth. NOT the Bullsh!t their parents feed them or their buddies feed them. Out of every 100 ALL-State or ALL County ballplayer that goes through a VERY talented state like Florida, 5-10 make it to the major leagues...THAT'S it. When they leave our program, there are 2 ways of making it...the hard way of working hard and IF a lucky break happens, you make it. The other way is the easier more costly route and that is using performance enhancers. You will not use it in my program, but once you leave....if your considered "man enough to shoot a gun for your country" then you are man enough to make a decision which path to take....plain and simple....black or white....

salsadancer7

Dec 16, 2007

vurbano said:
leadership from Salsa? :haha :haha

LOL...you know, you say tons of things about me in here and I do let all of it slide because you are as insignificant as a dried snot on and old kleenex. But, you don't know me nor never will because I don't let in stains like you, your a negative influence that gets no acknowledgement. But I will never put you on ignore because when even I need an idiotic statement to make me laugh, I can ALWAYS count on you.....:up

Keep up the good work!

vurbano

Dec 16, 2007

salsadancer7 said:
But, you don't know me nor never will because I don't let in stains like you, your a negative influence that gets no acknowledgement.

Your posts prove otherwise

salsadancer7

Dec 16, 2007

vurbano said:
Your posts prove otherwise

LMAO!!! :haha:haha:haha

Paul Wozniak

Dec 16, 2007

salsadancer7 said:
You really need to understand how a professional athlete thinks and you don't. I told my kids that these minor leaguers went to far, they went the way of the short cut...."their competative juices got the best of them". I, as a former professional athlete CANNOT blame the minor leaguers/fringe major leaguers for taking steroids back then because there was no rule in baseball that said you could not take them. Most of them were taking SOMETHING to help them recoup from injuries. You ask ANY OF THEM if they can make the major leagues CLEANLY, they would all give a RESOUNDING YES. Ask them if they want to be a minor leaguer the rest of their lives.....you will get a resounding NO. My kids ask me the for the truth...and I told them. They ALSO know that it is illegal to use them and that are their age, there ARE side effects that carry consequences...again, they are not dumb and they KNOW they are not getting a "go do steroids because I approve of it" speech. I give them ALOT more credit for comprehending what my answer was than you do.

Back when? Fay Vincent added steroids to the list of banned supplements in 1991. They have been ILLEGAL in this country for longer than that. MBL may have neglected to test for steroids, but since 1991 they have been banned. If I were you I would go back to your players and explain that steroids are inexcusable in athletics. These are kids, and you need to be clear and firm. (I'm sure you were, but it's a lesson worth repeating to them.)

sidekick

Dec 16, 2007

But you "are" sugar coating it when you say that you understand why they'd use steroids and other enhancers. No means "no", not: "No, but I understand why you did it so I can't find fault with what you did. Sorry Salsa, but you missed the opportunity to provide a life's lesson for those players by not affirmatively denouncing steroid use.

salsadancer7 said:
I provide plenty of leadership and guidance by telling them the truth....and not sugarcoat things and treat them with respect, not baby them with cute little slogans and wishful thinking. We have 60 kids a year tryout every year for VERY few spots, tand those that make it...I tell them the truth. NOT the Bullsh!t their parents feed them or their buddies feed them. Out of every 100 ALL-State or ALL County ballplayer that goes through a VERY talented state like Florida, 5-10 make it to the major leagues...THAT'S it. When they leave our program, there are 2 ways of making it...the hard way of working hard and IF a lucky break happens, you make it. The other way is the easier more costly route and that is using performance enhancers. You will not use it in my program, but once you leave....if your considered "man enough to shoot a gun for your country" then you are man enough to make a decision which path to take....plain and simple....black or white....

salsadancer7

Dec 16, 2007

sidekick said:
But you "are" sugar coating it when you say that you understand why they'd use steroids and other enhancers. No means "no", not: "No, but I understand why you did it so I can't find fault with what you did. Sorry Salsa, but you missed the opportunity to provide a life's lesson for those players by not affirmatively denouncing steroid use.

Again, you are going under the assumption that you know my guys...and you don't. Some of these kids, I have had them in our baseball summer camps since they were 12-14 years old AND most started on our JV program. They know EXACTLY what I meant and they have NEVER, EVER has a issue with asking me ANYTHING...believe me, they have NEVER had a issue asking me "why". AND HOW is telling the truth sugarcoasting??!! I told them that I can see guys wanting to take the short cut way to the majors. I have not encouraged anyone. Once they have left our program they are on their own when it comes to making decisions about their futures.

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Bruce

Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 1:20 AM · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

DirecTV’s Subscribers Number

Thanks to Fitch Ratings ( who gives the ratings on Credit and debt, as approved by the SEC, so they have accurate numbers) we have the totals.

DIRECTV's video subscriber base is the third-largest traditional multi-channel video programming distributor (MVPD) in the U.S. with about 8.2 million subscribers at the end of 1Q26.

The last time it was reported, it was 8.8M at the end of 2Q25, so only a 600,000 loss for 3 quarters, which is a major improvement, since for many years before that, it was losing 500,000 a quarter, 2 Million a year.

It is now losing less than Dish/Sling combined, I believe the Genre Packs are helping to retain and get subscribers.

https://www.fitchratings.com/research/corporate-finance/fitch-rates-directv-proposed-senior-secured-debt-offering-bb-rr2-11-05-2026

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raoul5788

May 19, 2026

They have one less as of May 15th. I just couldn't justify almost $150 a month any more. I went to Fubo. Edit: And I've been a Directv customer for 30 years!

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b4pjoe

May 19, 2026

raoul5788 said:
They have one less as of May 15th. I just couldn't justify almost $150 a month any more. I went to Fubo.

Fubo would be a non starter for me. Missing channels:

NBCUniversal Channels: NBC local affiliates, USA Network, Bravo, CNBC, MSNBC, E!, Syfy, Telemundo, and the Golf Channel.
NBC Sports: Regional sports networks like NBC Sports Bay Area, Boston, California, and Philadelphia are also off the air.
Warner Bros. Discovery Channels: TBS, TNT, TruTV, CNN, Discovery Channel, TLC, HGTV, Food Network, and Animal Planet.
A&E Networks: A&E, History, Lifetime, and Vice.
AMC Networks: AMC, IFC, SundanceTV, and WE tv

Plus most of its live TV channels and sports broadcasts are currently delivered in 720p.

Jimbo

May 19, 2026

b4pjoe said:
Fubo would be a non starter for me. Missing channels:

NBCUniversal Channels: NBC local affiliates, USA Network, Bravo, CNBC, MSNBC, E!, Syfy, Telemundo, and the Golf Channel.

NBC Sports: Regional sports networks like NBC Sports Bay Area, Boston, California, and Philadelphia are also off the air.

Warner Bros. Discovery Channels: TBS, TNT, TruTV, CNN, Discovery Channel, TLC, HGTV, Food Network, and Animal Planet.

A&E Networks: A&E, History, Lifetime, and Vice.

AMC Networks: AMC, IFC, SundanceTV, and WE tv

Plus most of its live TV channels and sports broadcasts are currently delivered in 720p.

YouTube TV

raoul5788

May 19, 2026

b4pjoe said:
Fubo would be a non starter for me. Missing channels:

NBCUniversal Channels: NBC local affiliates, USA Network, Bravo, CNBC, MSNBC, E!, Syfy, Telemundo, and the Golf Channel.

NBC Sports: Regional sports networks like NBC Sports Bay Area, Boston, California, and Philadelphia are also off the air.

Warner Bros. Discovery Channels: TBS, TNT, TruTV, CNN, Discovery Channel, TLC, HGTV, Food Network, and Animal Planet.

A&E Networks: A&E, History, Lifetime, and Vice.

AMC Networks: AMC, IFC, SundanceTV, and WE tv

Plus most of its live TV channels and sports broadcasts are currently delivered in 720p.

Understandable. It's always a choice of price vs channels. The $60/month difference made my choice easier.

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Arctic_fox

Today at 12:41 AM

Jimbo said:
YouTube TV

YTTV don't carry the Regional sports channels

dishrich

Today at 1:20 AM

Arctic_fox said:
YTTV don't carry the Regional sports channels

It does still carry the NBC Sports branded RSN's, but obviously in those limited markets...

so2344

Last reply Today at 12:36 AM · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

Came back to DirectTV Satellite - Gemini question

Recently came back to DirectTV Satellite service and have two boxes, Gemini and a main HR54.

DirecTV is charging me two "TV access fees" of $10 each, but can only watch TV on the one without the server. Is there anything I can do to fix this?

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FHSPSU67

Apr 25, 2026

First receiver should be free. It is for me.

b4pjoe

Apr 25, 2026

FHSPSU67 said:
First receiver should be free. It is for me.

It is for me too. Back when they merged DIRECTV via Internet and DIRECTV Stream into one service they raised the TV access fee from $7.00 to $10.00 from both streaming and satellite and they eliminated the first receiver free for new customers only. Existing customers weren't affected by the new price and the elimination of the first receiver free policy.

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so2344

May 11, 2026

b4pjoe said:
It is for me too. Back when they merged DIRECTV via Internet and DIRECTV Stream into one service they raised the TV access fee from $7.00 to $10.00 from both streaming and satellite and they eliminated the first receiver free for new customers only. Existing customers weren't affected by the new price and the elimination of the first receiver free policy.

All of this makes me want to cancel satellite again! Customer service said we were getting billed for an old receiver but the call got cut off.

Will call back and try to get this resolved. As of now, only one TV can access satellite service. Would hope they can send another Gemini to be co-located w the main HR54.

so2344

May 28, 2026

Update: after 20 mins on phone with a non North American call center agent, they are sending a tech out. The tech support couldn't understand that the HR54 was at a different TV than the Gemini.

Arctic_fox

Today at 12:36 AM

so2344 said:
Update: after 20 mins on phone with a non North American call center agent, they are sending a tech out. The tech support couldn't understand that the HR54 was at a different TV than the Gemini.

this is why we canceled support and the csr's are garbage even the american ones. it's still under the att system!!!

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Scott Greczkowski

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Last reply Today at 12:33 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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I Can't Help It (If I'm Still In Love With You) - B.J. Thomas

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zippyfrog

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 12:07 AM · posted in The Phone & Tablet Zone

Purchasing New iPhone

I feel like this was discussed in another thread, but I can't find it. I have T-Mobile and my last iPhone upgrade was in 2020. I want to get a new iPhone, but what is the best way to go about doing it? Should I order the iPhone from T-Mobile directly, or should I buy from the Apple Store? I feel like there are pros/cons to each option.

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navychop

Yesterday at 11:48 PM

I know of no reason to buy from a cell company.

Buying from Apple gets an unlocked phone.

PS- New models come out in Octoberish.

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Foxbat

Today at 12:07 AM

I got a carrier-locked iPhone once, and it was a pain after they got bought by Sprint and I decided to go to T-Mobile and they dragged their feet to unlock the phone. I have been trading in my iPhones since and buying from the Apple Store since then.

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Cactus Jack

Last reply Yesterday at 11:50 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Three Tuners?

I have a Hopper with Sling. (Don't know exact model.) A couple nights ago, I went into the DVR screen, and noted that it was recording three programs. Yet I was able to view live TV (that was not one of the channels being recorded.) Did something change? In the past, it would only let me watch one of the channels being recorded, or any recording in the DVR menu. Maybe it was streaming, although there was no indication of that?

Apologies if this has been covered; I searched and didn't find anything.

Thanks.

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Cactus Jack

Jun 3, 2026

So I tested.

Started recording three non-network shows and tried to watch live TV, would not do it, because all three tuners were in use.

Started recording two non-network shows and one network show. Still would not let me tune live TV.

Started recording one non-network show and two network shows, then it allowed live TV.

I would assume then that previously I was recording two or three network shows when it allowed live TV; I honestly don't remember what it was doing, and I didn't think to check.

Thanks for replies, everyone.

PS - How does one know whether a program is streaming? Is there a way to force streaming?

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Bobby

Jun 3, 2026

Cactus Jack said:
So I tested.

Started recording three non-network shows and tried to watch live TV, would not do it, because all three tuners were in use.

Started recording two non-network shows and one network show. Still would not let me tune live TV.

Started recording one non-network show and two network shows, then it allowed live TV.

I would assume then that previously I was recording two or three network shows when it allowed live TV; I honestly don't remember what it was doing, and I didn't think to check.

Thanks for replies, everyone.

PS - How does one know whether a program is streaming? Is there a way to force streaming?

There is no way to force streaming. It is a satellite channel or streaming channel except for the rare occasion that the satellite signal fails. If that happens some, not all, channels will automatically change to streaming. You can tell if the channel is streaming by pressing guide on the remote. if it is a streaming channel the guide will clearly show it that way.

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navychop

Jun 3, 2026

Cough, cough, Hopper3!

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Cactus Jack

Jun 5, 2026

Bobby said:
There is no way to force streaming. It is a satellite channel or streaming channel except for the rare occasion that the satellite signal fails. If that happens some, not all, channels will automatically change to streaming. You can tell if the channel is streaming by pressing guide on the remote. if it is a streaming channel the guide will clearly show it that way.

Thanks, Bobby.

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Arctic_fox

Yesterday at 11:50 PM

chokes hopper 3 all the way... 16 tuners vs 3 tuners is a night and day difference. along with a faster processor. i would call in and see if they would upgrade me or you can buy a hopper 3 from solid signal.

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Yesterday at 10:52 PM · posted in iJustine

Good Bye, Tim! Last WWDC 🥹

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Smuuth

Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge

Last reply Yesterday at 10:15 PM · posted in SatelliteGuys Classifieds

WANTED DirecTV LCC

Anyone have a DirecTV Local Channel Connector that you'd like to get rid of at a reasonable price? DirecTV is currently in a contract dispute with owner of my local ABC affiliate.

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b4pjoe

Jun 2, 2026

Smuuth said:
Anyone have a DirecTV Local Channel Connector that you'd like to get rid of at a reasonable price? DirecTV is currently in a contract dispute with owner of my local ABC affiliate.

You should ask DIRECTV for one if you are affected by the dispute. I know in the past they have given them out during a dispute. Not sure if they still do that but it is free to ask.

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Smuuth

Jun 2, 2026

b4pjoe said:
You should ask DIRECTV for one if you are affected by the dispute. I know in the past they have given them out during a dispute. Not sure if they still do that but it is free to ask.

I already asked, but the CS agent said they wouldn't do it. They said the only thing they could do is $10/month bill credit.

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Jimbo

Jun 3, 2026

Smuuth said:
I already asked, but the CS agent said they wouldn't do it. They said the only thing they could do is $10/month bill credit.

Take the $10 and Call Back ...

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Smuuth

Monday at 10:22 AM

Jimbo said:
Take the $10 and Call Back ...

I did that. The response was that the LCC is not available. Escalated the issue to a tech support person with the same results.

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Jimbo

Monday at 10:39 AM

Smuuth said:
I did that. The response was that the LCC is not available. Escalated the issue to a tech support person with the same results.

Could be out of them I guess ... I'd keep trying, every 3-4 days.

If they are not out of them as them WHY you can't get one, seeing Your in a Dispute. Thats what they are for.
I would make them give you a real answer, don't let them off the hook.

I had one, and it worked well, but I believe I gave it to another D* friend (also had a AM21), I know I gave them away ...

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Smuuth

Monday at 10:44 AM

Jimbo said:
Could be out of them I guess ... I'd keep trying, every 3-4 days.

If they are not out of them as them WHY you can't get one, seeing Your in a Dispute. Thats what they are for.

According to the tech support guy, they don't have any in stock. He said I should receive an email when and if they have them. I even told him I would accept a refurbished unit.

Jimbo

Monday at 10:45 AM

Smuuth said:
According to the tech support guy, they don't have any in stock. He said I should receive an email when and if they have them. I even told him I would accept a refurbished unit.

I'm not sure your going to find any Refurbished ones as D* doesn't ask for them back.

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Smuuth

Monday at 10:48 AM

Jimbo said:
I'm not sure your going to find any Refurbished ones as D* doesn't ask for them back.

Yeah, I know. At one point, I even had 3 AM21s but gave them away when I got rid of my last HR54 and switched to the HS17.

Arctic_fox

Yesterday at 10:00 PM

Good luck they haven't made them in years. you could poke around on ebay and see if there's any on there. if not why not a tablo or a zapper box with an antenna connected to it

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Smuuth

Yesterday at 10:09 PM

Arctic_fox said:
Good luck they haven't made them in years. you could poke around on ebay and see if there's any on there. if not why not a tablo or a zapper box with an antenna connected to it

I have my OTA antenna connected to my television directly already so watching is not the issue. The reason I want the LCC is so I could record programs if I'm not at home to watch them live, especially since ABC is carrying both the NBA and NHL playoffs.
I have an active search on eBay and there is one there but he wants $180 plus shipping and I am not going to pay that.

Arctic_fox

Yesterday at 10:12 PM

Smuuth said:
I have my OTA antenna connected to my television directly already so watching is not the issue. The reason I want the LCC is so I could record programs if I'm not at home to watch them live, especially since ABC is carrying both the NBA and NHL playoffs.
I have an active search on eBay and there is one there but he wants $180 plus shipping and I am not going to pay that.

a tablo box is cheaper

Amazon.com

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Arctic_fox

Yesterday at 10:15 PM

why invest in hardware that's going to be boat anchors in a few years?

zippyfrog

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Yesterday at 10:05 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Price Increase on Owned Equipment?

Did anyone have a price increase today on their equipment? I own my VIP211k's, and they have been $5.00. My bill that I received last week shows the "add-ons" as being $5.00. However, I just logged into my Dish account, and my "add-ons" are now $10.00. Did the additional receivers go up by $5.00 recently?

As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.

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telstar_1

Yesterday at 1:28 PM

Does cable charge box rent?

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RJT79

Yesterday at 4:47 PM

telstar_1 said:
Does cable charge box rent?

The cable company I was with years ago did charge $9.99 for a receiver.

RJ T.
From Illinois

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RJT79

Yesterday at 5:03 PM

zippyfrog said:
Did anyone have a price increase today on their equipment? I own my VIP211k's, and they have been $5.00. My bill that I received last week shows the "add-ons" as being $5.00. However, I just logged into my Dish account, and my "add-ons" are now $10.00. Did the additional receivers go up by $5.00 recently?

As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.

I went to try to add the Heartland channel as dummy to see what it would do for me as I own my receiver and have DISH Outdoors and this is what mine shows. (Note however I had to take the 2nd receiver I told you I added the other day off because I was told you can only have 1 receiver when you have a one outlet on the Dish Playmaker and was having issues with the 2nd receiver and I didn't know that and that was done yesterday as well so I am back to one receiver.)

Let's upgrade your package.

Your monthly bill will increase by $6.00 per month.

Breakdown

June 11, 2026 - July 11, 2026
You are changing your programming in the middle of the bill cycle. The bill shown below is your bill for next month including prorations and credits. Your following bill will return to the fixed rate. This bill will take effect from now until July 11, 2026.
Monthly Services
$86.99
Flex Pack
$72.99
Local Channels
$14.00
Add-Ons
$68.98
National Action Pack
$12.00
Regional Action Pack
$12.00
News Pack
$10.00
Paramount+ with Showtime
$10.00
Drama and Classics Pack
$6.00
Heartland Pack
$6.00
Starz Encore Movies
$6.00
On DISH Magazine
$4.99
Starz 2 Mo ($11)
$1.99
Prorated Charges
$7.93
Heartland Pack Jun 11 - Jul 20
$7.93
Order Total
$7.93
Prorated Total
$7.93
Due Today
$7.93

Transition Bill Total
$156.10
Proposed Changes
Your monthly bill will increase by $6.00 per month
Monthly Services
$86.99
Add-Ons
$68.98
FCC Regulatory Surcharge
$0.13
Taxes & Surcharges
$0.00

Monthly Total
$156.10
Prorated Total
$7.93
Order Total
$7.93

Due Today
$7.93

Sounds like an issue with DISH Billing

RJ T.
From Illinois

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zippyfrog

Yesterday at 5:19 PM

I asked again, and the rep I talked to said it is a glitch and that "Access for TV" shouldn't be there - the rep pulled up my future month bills and that charge isn't on it. So I am not going to worry about it right now, but it will be interesting to see when the price changes happen later this year. Will this line item show up? The fact that it is a specific item that is different from anything makes me think it is more than a glitch. But we shall see.

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RJT79

Yesterday at 5:29 PM

zippyfrog said:
I asked again, and the rep I talked to said it is a glitch and that "Access for TV" shouldn't be there - the rep pulled up my future month bills and that charge isn't on it. So I am not going to worry about it right now, but it will be interesting to see when the price changes happen later this year. Will this line item show up? The fact that it is a specific item that is different from anything makes me think it is more than a glitch. But we shall see.

I am hoping they don't add this down the road. Things are expensive the way it is now. Even DIRECTV allows the first receiver free. This would go against DISH and DISH is already loosing subscribers I wouldn't think they would do these kind of tricks but you never know. Always look at your bills for unknow charges. I heard horror stories of people getting charged for things they didn't know were there.

RJ T.
From Illinois

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Arctic_fox

Yesterday at 10:05 PM

telstar_1 said:
Does cable charge box rent?

yes big cable charges crazy dvr fee's and box rental fee's

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teachtom

Last reply Yesterday at 9:21 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Problem when I switch from Bonus View channels back to regular Dish channels

Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks

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HipKat

Yesterday at 5:07 PM

teachtom said:
Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks

First off, great TV. I'm torn between the 77C5 or the 77G5.
It sounds like the handshake between the Receiver and the TV is having a problem. Are you using the free cable that came with the Joey or a higher speed HDMI cable?? That's the f irst place I'd look

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RJT79

Yesterday at 5:17 PM

teachtom said:
Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks

First off, The analog to digital switch, also known as the digital television transition, is the process of converting older analog television broadcasting technology to digital broadcasting. It's used through coaxial cable for the an antenna during the mandatory switch from Analog to Digital on June 12, 2009. You either had to get a converter for your analog (Tube TV) or use a converter box that has the analog or digital tuner or an HDTV which your is and has the tuner built in. Your TV is HD and using an HDMI Cable and nothing is connected by coaxial cable so this wouldn't apply.

In my theory it probably means a new TV. I had a TV go out on my switching between the Smart Screen from the HDMI inputs before because they went faulty. Sometimes electrical surges can cause this. If you have an older home or rent an older home or apartment sometimes the electrical outlets are not grounded and these days HDTV's need a ground which can cause them to malfunction and go bad quicker. Never plug it directly in an outlet. It will damage the TV.

Hope I could be of some assistance.

RJ T.
From Illinois

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teachtom

Yesterday at 7:33 PM

RJT79 said:
First off, The analog to digital switch, also known as the digital television transition, is the process of converting older analog television broadcasting technology to digital broadcasting. It's used through coaxial cable for the an antenna during the mandatory switch from Analog to Digital on June 12, 2009. You either had to get a converter for your analog (Tube TV) or use a converter box that has the analog or digital tuner or an HDTV which your is and has the tuner built in. Your TV is HD and using an HDMI Cable and nothing is connected by coaxial cable so this wouldn't apply.

In my theory it probably means a new TV. I had a TV go out on my switching between the Smart Screen from the HDMI inputs before because they went faulty. Sometimes electrical surges can cause this. If you have an older home or rent an older home or apartment sometimes the electrical outlets are not grounded and these days HDTV's need a ground which can cause them to malfunction and go bad quicker. Never plug it directly in an outlet. It will damage the TV.

Hope I could be of some assistance.

RJ T.
From Illinois

Thank you for the information. I do keep the TV plugged into a surge protector, but we have had pretty strong thunderstorms/lightning in the last month so that have contributed to my problem.The house was built in 2009 so everything seems to be grounded correctly. We have had a power surge also. Seems like no one fixes anything any more, so just get a new one or live with the problem. Thanks

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teachtom

Yesterday at 7:39 PM

HipKat said:
First off, great TV. I'm torn between the 77C5 or the 77G5.
It sounds like the handshake between the Receiver and the TV is having a problem. Are you using the free cable that came with the Joey or a higher speed HDMI cable?? That's the f irst place I'd look

I think the HDMI cable is good, i used one of my own from my 4K atmos system, i'll switch it with another just to check. Also I have a bid in at Greentoe for 77" G5. Thanks

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HipKat

Yesterday at 8:17 PM

teachtom said:
I think the HDMI cable is good, i used one of my own from my 4K atmos system, i'll switch it with another just to check. Also I have a bid in at Greentoe for 77" G5. Thanks

I hope that works. I'm waiting til Black Friday sales

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Darrell S

Yesterday at 9:21 PM

I've had this problem with my older Sony TV. It happens when I just punch in a regular channel number. The only way it works right for me is to push guide and select a regular channel from the guide screen.

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teachsac

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!

Last reply Yesterday at 8:59 PM · posted in TV Shows

House of the Dragon

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