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Last reply Jan 15, 2008 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

TNT stretch-o-vision response

A few weeks ago, someone posted an e-mail address to the list to contact TNT. I wrote them about stretching their content. Here is the response I got:

In an effort to present a consistent broadcast, we have decided to maintain the same aspect ratio for all HD programming. An unfortunately consequence of this is that the standard TV ratio of 4:3 is presented as 16:9. This is what "stretches" the image.

We apologize for any inconvenience this has caused.

Best,

TNT Web Staff

Thought I'd share...

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sprintcarcrazy

Dec 28, 2007

You are so right about the 50 percent have no HD services, or after spending 3K on a TV, won't spend the extra $$ to get HD.

I don't know how many people I have helped alter the Dish install, where they left in in 480P and walked off after the install. Or never hooked the OTA antenna up.

I went to a neighbors little get together and everyone was huddled around his new plazma watching football, going this is HD. I said, nope, it's not, he called me over to the corner and said don't say anything, when everyone leaves, come back and fix it.

He was watching a local channel broadcast on Dish no HD locals, reciever was also set to 480 and Best Buy hooked up an OTA antenna to his TV, but not the Dish receiver.

After a few changes, and some training on where to get HD and the OTA HD locals, he got to experience what he paid for. But a bunch of people with 3K TV's have never seen HD on them.

hockeyinsd

Jan 14, 2008

Take this with a grain of salt, but its the best reason I've heard so far.

I talked to a friend who works at master control for DirecTV and was talking to him about stretch-o-vision for TNT/TBS/etc. He wasn't sure about TBS, but for TNT it has to do with their SD to HD encoder. I was complaining about TNT being stretched and he was telling me that DirecTV gets calls all the time about it, sometimes tech support calls master control to check on customer complaints of the signal being distorted (which it is). According to him, when TNT went HD, the encoders they installed for showing the SD material in HD can only stretch the programming and it doesn't have any other mode. They'd have to put in a whole new encoder to get 4:3 pillerboxed HD and that takes $$$.

It makes sense to me, especially since they have some featured programming in full 16:9 HD, but the regular SD stuff is stretched. He heard some rumor that TNT is looking into changing to pillarboxed, but its only a rumor.

Jim S.

Jan 14, 2008

hockeyinsd said:
According to him, when TNT went HD, the encoders they installed for showing the SD material in HD can only stretch the programming and it doesn't have any other mode. They'd have to put in a whole new encoder to get 4:3 pillerboxed HD and that takes $$$.

We're supposed to believe they can't afford it? More like they don't care.

polksda

Jan 14, 2008

I've always liked the way ESPNHD handles SD material. When they have 4:3 content that they have to broadcast, they put grey bars to the left and right with the big "ESPNHD" letters running down the side. Lets viewers know that there isn't something wrong.

Weezknight

Jan 14, 2008

sprintcarcrazy said:
I don't know how many people I have helped alter the Dish install, where they left in in 480P and walked off after the install. Or never hooked the OTA antenna up.

This is what happened when I got my 811 hooked up 2 years ago. I got the Dish HD pak, but knew nothing about the HD locals (which weren't available through Dish, but I didn't know that), and neither the installer, nor Dish mentioned anything about OTA.

About 2 weeks after thinking how different my local "HD" looked from stations like HDNet, I checked around the web and read on these forums about hooking up my rabbit ears through the 811. I scanned the channels and began getting the REAL HD experience from my locals.

2 years later I'm the "go to" guy among all my friends for getting their HDTV's set up with the correct programming.

It really is sad to think how many people are spending that money and not getting what they paid for. I chalk it up to the consumer not doing their research, but even more, I blame the greed of the corporations who want to sell, but not educate.

Sammy033

Jan 15, 2008

Weezknight said:
It really is sad to think how many people are spending that money and not getting what they paid for.

There was an article today in the paper about CalTech doing a small study on the relation between how good people think a wine is vs its price. It included 5 grades ranging from inexpensive to $90... or so they told the tasters. But in fact the testers were only given three wines with two of them being served twice (at differently stated prices). They were served the same $90 wine twice but the vast majority said the glass that cost more was better. To be fair they werent connoisseurs.

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dishstaller

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 9 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

You can't even trust the cost per ounce info in grocery stores anymore

I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.

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Juan

Wednesday at 1:38 PM

dishstaller said:
Then they are stupid. Everyone knows that the price per ounce should be the price per ounce of actual product.

You are paying for the whole thing

telstar_1

Wednesday at 2:22 PM

Juan said:
You are paying for the whole thing

Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.

dishstaller

Wednesday at 3:13 PM

Juan said:
.a bag...not much

Well, according to the price per ounce on that first bag of coffee he mentions, that would mean the bag weighed over 6 ounces. That bag does NOT weigh 6 ounces. According to Google, an empty bag weighs half an ounce.

Jimbo

Wednesday at 6:26 PM

telstar_1 said:
Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.

I would think that the Vendor/Maker of the product would have a say in it, showing the Correct weight ...
You would think it would be in the contract.

I do look at the ounces of items, but unless its way off, I don't check the math, may have to start now.

Remember when you use to get a 13.5 oz bag of Chips .... Thats a PARTY Size now.

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TRG

Wednesday at 6:41 PM

Jimbo said:
I would think that the Vendor/Maker of the product would have a say in it, showing the Correct weight ...
You would think it would be in the contract.

I do look at the ounces of items, but unless its way off, I don't check the math, may have to start now.

Remember when you use to get a 13.5 oz bag of Chips .... Thats a PARTY Size now.

I remember when a pound of coffee was 16oz. Now its 12oz, they don't call it a pound anymore and its three times the cost of the 16oz pound.

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Jimbo

Wednesday at 7:05 PM

TRG said:
I remember when a pound of coffee was 16oz. Now its 12oz, they don't call it a pound anymore and its three times the cost of the 16oz pound.

Well, they don't call it a pound anymore ....

Ice cream is that way too, use to be a half gallon, now its 1.5 quart or some say 48 oz

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NYDutch

Wednesday at 7:39 PM

Jimbo said:
Well, they don't call it a pound anymore ....

Ice cream is that way too, use to be a half gallon, now its 1.5 quart or some say 48 oz

We have a regional ice cream company here that advertises that their ice cream containers are still a full half gallon.

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Jimbo

Wednesday at 8:54 PM

NYDutch said:
We have a regional ice cream company here that advertises that their ice cream containers are still a full half gallon.

Now check and see if any of them (probably a few) are actual Ice Cream ...

Most Ice Creams are Not actual Ice Cream.
Bryers for example, call Most of thiers "Frozen Dairy Dessert"

Juan

Yesterday at 7:13 AM

dishstaller said:
Well, according to the price per ounce on that first bag of coffee he mentions, that would mean the bag weighed over 6 ounces. That bag does NOT weigh 6 ounces. According to Google, an empty bag weighs half an ounce.

You need to weigh the actual bag...a deli bag weighs less than that but a thick coffee bag is gonna weigh around an ounce...an empty tin can has some weight

NYDutch

Yesterday at 7:44 AM

Juan said:
You need to weigh the actual bag...a deli bag weighs less than that but a thick coffee bag is gonna weigh around an ounce...an empty tin can has some weight

Products sold by the ounce, pound, etc, should always be priced for the product only. Only the shipping weight should include the packaging.

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harshness

Yesterday at 9:21 AM

NYDutch said:
Products sold by the ounce, pound, etc, should always be priced for the product only.

Unless the specific product or its packaging is known at the time of weighing, estimating the tare weight for a PoS system is a tall order.

I'm pretty sure that produce bags can't get any thinner.

You certainly don't want to put unbagged produce on a belt, scale, or in a clerk's hands (gloved or not).

Jimbo

Yesterday at 9:27 AM

harshness said:
Unless the specific product or its packaging is known at the time of weighing, estimating the tare weight for a PoS system is a tall order.

I'm pretty sure that produce bags can't get any thinner.

You certainly don't want to put unbagged produce on a belt, scale, or in a clerk's hands (gloved or not).

I would think that all the packaging would already be accounted for ... they weigh the container, subtract that from the scale, then add the product , so its weighing the Product only

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harshness

Today at 4:42 PM

Jimbo said:
I would think that all the packaging would already be accounted for ... they weigh the container, subtract that from the scale, then add the product , so its weighing the Product only.

You would be thinking wrong when it comes to goods that are sold by weight (meat, produce, nails). Those items typically go on the scale wrapped without an associated tare. The weight only excludes the sticker because it hasn't been printed yet.

Jimbo

Today at 5:08 PM

harshness said:
You would be thinking wrong when it comes to goods that are sold by weight (meat, produce, nails). Those items typically go on the scale wrapped without an associated tare. The weight only excludes the sticker because it hasn't been printed yet.

Thats ridiculous ....

Thats not how Deli does it, I know your talking pre packaged.
They need to CHANGE that.

harshness

Today at 6:50 PM

Jimbo said:
Thats not how Deli does it, I know your talking pre packaged.

Perhaps only for sliced meat and cheese. Salads and similarly "shifty" or "drippy" items are typically weighed in deli cartons of some sort.

My monster burritos (up to two lbs.) are weighed in their foil jackets or paper mache take-out trays, and the jacket/tray is then "sealed" with the printed label as it comes off the printer.

Precision has to give way to practicality in situations like that.

TRG

55 minutes ago

Jimbo said:
Now check and see if any of them (probably a few) are actual Ice Cream ...

Most Ice Creams are Not actual Ice Cream.
Bryers for example, call Most of thiers "Frozen Dairy Dessert"

I only buy Tillamook and Alden's ice cream. The first ingredients are milk and cream.

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Jimbo

18 minutes ago

harshness said:
Perhaps only for sliced meat and cheese. Salads and similarly "shifty" or "drippy" items are typically weighed in deli cartons of some sort.

My monster burritos (up to two lbs.) are weighed in their foil jackets or paper mache take-out trays, and the jacket/tray is then "sealed" with the printed label as it comes off the printer.

Precision has to give way to practicality in situations like that.

What ever I get out of the Deli is put into a container when I ask them for it, they weight the container and then add the deli product, thats the way its suppose to be, if the rest of the world is screwing you, you should try the place down the street.

Jimbo

14 minutes ago

TRG said:
I only buy Tillamook and Alden's ice cream. The first ingredients are milk and cream.

$7.50 a 1/2 gallon, thats worse than Bryers price wise.

Jimbo

11 minutes ago

TRG said:
I only buy Tillamook and Alden's ice cream. The first ingredients are milk and cream.

1st Big Question is ... How Much Sugar is in it and Sodium and Carbs ...
I' m really not suppose to have Ice Cream, or at least Moderately ....
Depending on the amount of sugar and sodium (don't think theres sodium in it, but Carbs probably is.)

Jimbo

9 minutes ago

Jimbo said:
$7.50 a 1/2 gallon, thats worse than Bryers price wise.

I'll give that a try next time, if I can find some in the right sugar areas.

Juan

9 minutes ago

Jimbo said:
What ever I get out of the Deli is put into a container when I ask them for it, they weight the container and then add the deli product, thats the way its suppose to be, if the rest of the world is screwing you, you should try the place down the street.

They are probably cheating you by swapping store brand product for name brand...those store deli's are very sketchy

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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply 49 minutes ago · posted in Free To Air (FTA) Discussion

Memories

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reubenray

Oct 14, 2026

I had a BUD in the 80's before the little small dishes started showing up. The signals were unsrambled and then I had to get a monthly code.

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dfergie

Oct 14, 2026

I forgot about the tv antenna rotator to change polarity…

telstar_1

Oct 14, 2026

reubenray said:
I had a BUD in the 80's before the little small dishes started showing up. The signals were unsrambled and then I had to get a monthly code.

You mean you were pirating the VCII and entering "Wizard numbers" every month after key change? GI finally resorted to changing out the keys twice as often, then even more often, down to just hours, making it mostly untenable?

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iBoston

Today at 5:55 PM

When i was a kid, i used to salivate envisioning me having a Cband dish. It wasn't until about 1995, I installed my first Cband dish, and i remember it took me about 2 weeks to get that dish aligned properly.. This was before internet, and i had to call and talk with people on the phone about advice on how to properly tune the dish. I can't remember the receiver, but it had a UHF remote. I had the satellite receiver in the living room, but i ported it to two TV's, one in the living room and one in the bedroom. It was so nice being able to control the receiver with the remote in the bedroom about 40 feet from the living room. I remember watching Rosanne feeds where it would air the entire week in succession. Nice nostalgia.

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navychop

Today at 6:08 PM

iBoston said:
I remember watching Rosanne feeds

I'd wipe THAT memory ASAP!

WhiteBeard

49 minutes ago

navychop said:
I'd wipe THAT memory ASAP!

Why?

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Tom Speer

Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge

Last reply Today at 8:29 PM · posted in DIRECTV Cutting Edge Information

DIRECTV Cutting Edge Non Disclosure Agreement

In order to participate in any Cutting Edge testing, you must sign a Non Disclosure Agreement (NDA). Attached are a .docx (Microsoft Word) and PDF version of the latest DirecTV NDA. I found it easiest to complete the .docx version then paste a photo or scan image of my signature, cropped closely to just the signature into it as a picture. Then set Word to wrap text around the picture so that the picture follows the text "Signature".

People who have better PDF tools than I do may prefer that version.

When you apply for any Cutting Edge testing, you will be told how to send the signed copy.

NONDISCLOSURE AGREEMENT (testers v2).docx 19 KB NONDISCLOSURE AGREEMENT (testers v2).pdf 95 KB

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Tom Speer

Today at 4:02 PM

Any NDA you have signed before is still valid for the testing you have been and hopefully still are doing. The new NDA forms are ror new CE testers and new categories of CE testing. They have been placed here so that people who volunteer for any CE testing have access to them.

larry55

Today at 8:29 PM

Tom Speer said:
Any NDA you have signed before is still valid for the testing you have been and hopefull still are doing. The new NDA forms are ror new CE testers and new categories of CE testing. They have been placed here so that people who volunteer for any CE testing have access to them.

I'm still doing the testing.

TWiT Tech Podcast Network

Today at 8:12 PM · posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network

Artemis III

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!

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Direct YouTube Link - Artemis III
TWIT's Website
TWIT Live Feed

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Gary Toma

Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge

Last reply Today at 8:11 PM · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum

DIRECTV Transponder Map ~ Data 10/21/2026

The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:

National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)

Additional tabs provide:

OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders

Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions

DIRECTV_TPN_Map_261021.xlsx 1,876 KB

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KyL416

Today at 3:20 PM

660 CAVLIERS, 668 TWOLVES and 680 SPURS are now available

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KyL416

Today at 6:57 PM

WPLG Miami is testing on the stream server again

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Mr Tony

Today at 7:27 PM

KyL416 said:
660 CAVLIERS, 668 TWOLVES and 680 SPURS are now available

Still with Choice package? My stepdad says when the game started he got black screen and something to do with not the right package.
He had the Twins the last 2 years and I saw the Wild screen on 668-1 when I was there a few weeks ago.

KyL416

Today at 7:56 PM

There were some technical issues during the pregame, where 668 was showing the Pacers feed instead of the Timberwolves feed until a few minutes before the game.

On the stream API it looks like some areas need the Sports Pack, what's his zip code?

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Mr Tony

Today at 8:08 PM

KyL416 said:
There were some technical issues during the pregame, where 668 was showing the Pacers feed instead of the Timberwolves feed until a few minutes before the game.

On the stream API it looks like some areas need the Sports Pack, what's his zip code?

55379
It's Shakopee (suburb of Minneapolis and considered part of the Twin Cities). They have the satellite version, not streaming

KyL416

Today at 8:11 PM

The BLUES, BLUJCKTS, HURCANES and WILD channels are now active and no longer pointing to the TV Promise slate

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Bobby

Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 7:25 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

4K Events Discussion Thread

This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.

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Bobby

Oct 13, 2026

MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Thursday 10-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 148-02.

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Foxbat

Oct 15, 2026

Bobby said:
MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Thursday 10-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 148-02.

Bobby said:
CFB, Notre Dame at BYU, Saturday 10-27, 4:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.

Bobby said:
CFB, Ohio State at Indiana, Saturday 10-17, 9AM PDT, Channel 148-01.
CFB, Arizona State at Texas Tech, Saturday 10-17, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-01.

Hmmm, I'm not seeing anything like those events in our Hopper 3 guide for tonight or Saturday.

I went into the Tools menu and requested a Guide Update. I'll try looking at it after the update completes.

edit — I now have the 148-01 4KFox events for Saturday, but not anything for 148-02 or 148-03 which don't even show as available channels. I do have 148-04 4KUSA.

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Bobby

Oct 15, 2026

Foxbat said:
Hmmm, I'm not seeing anything like those events in our Hopper 3 guide for tonight or Saturday.

I went into the Tools menu and requested a Guide Update. I'll try looking at it after the update completes.

edit — I now have the 148-01 4KFox events for Saturday, but not anything for 148-02 or 148-03 which don't even show as available channels. I do have 148-04 4KUSA.

As I recall you have the Flex package. Do you sub to multisport? -02 is FS1 and -03 is ESPN. -01 is Fox so you would get that if you sub to locals.

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Bobby

Oct 15, 2026

Bobby said:
As I recall you have the Flex package. Do you sub to multisport? -02 is FS1 and -03 is ESPN. -01 is Fox so you would get that if you sub to locals.

As an edit, you need to sub to the National Action Pack at $12 a month to receive those channels.

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Foxbat

Oct 15, 2026

Which is what is interesting, I see the 4KFox channel on 148-01 but we're not subscribed to our Locals. So why it's coming in is puzzling. I thought that maybe it was a perk for Dish subscribers for the MLB Postseason.

I set a Timer for the Indiana - Ohio State game on Saturday. I'll take advantage of it while I can.

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Foxbat

Today at 4:48 PM

Foxbat said:
I set a Timer for the Indiana - Ohio State game on Saturday. I'll take advantage of it while I can.

Even though it didn't work out for the Hoosiers, this event recorded and I was able to watch it in full 4K HDR.

Bobby said:
MLB, Rays at Brewers, Friday 10-23, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.

Timer is set to Record the Series. Thanks, Bobby!

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long_time_Dish

Today at 7:25 PM

No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...

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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply Today at 7:21 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Go On Cry - Heart

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iJustine

Today at 6:33 PM · posted in iJustine

iPhone Duo Day at The Apple Store Los Angeles!

Time for another AWESOME video from iJustine!

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Direct YouTube Link - iPhone Duo Day at The Apple Store Los Angeles!
The official iJustine Website's Website
Buy her book!

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SuperDish_Fan23

Last reply Today at 5:58 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Its crazy how the ViP922 is so rare for no reason.

Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 8:53 PM

I remember this in the news too...

$14,000 spent on rented rotary phone

A widow rented a rotary dial telephone for 42 years, paying what her family calculates as more than $14,000 for a now- outdated phone.

www.nbcnews.com

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Bobby

Yesterday at 9:21 PM

Almighty1 said:
I remember this in the news too...

$14,000 spent on rented rotary phone

A widow rented a rotary dial telephone for 42 years, paying what her family calculates as more than $14,000 for a now- outdated phone.

www.nbcnews.com

That is a misnomer. In the old days you subscribed to telephone service. That included the telephone line and one telephone. An extension cost $1 a month extra. So that $14,000 over 42 years was for the service not the leased telephone. There is no way they paid $28 a month for 42 years for a leased telephone.

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HIFI

Today at 12:44 AM

anybody remember this disaster ?

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SuperDish_Fan23

Today at 4:24 PM

SuperDish_Fan23 said:
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!

Whoever still has their 922, please let me know i just wanna see photos of the ui and other stuff

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 5:51 PM

SuperDish_Fan23 said:
Whoever still has their 922, please let me know i just wanna see photos of the ui and other stuff

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wL6dsORmXg

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telstar_1

Today at 5:58 PM

Slicker guides never did much for me

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JSheridan

Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 5:58 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

All DMA's now Western Arc

I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.

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navychop

Oct 3, 2026

Years down the road

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renjy651

Oct 4, 2026

navychop said:
Years down the road

Looks like Charlie Ergen will never give up satellite TV. The reason Echostar 25 the most poweful DBS satellite ever built at 110 location already. Also Echostar 26 another super satellite on order for 119 orbital location will be ready in 15 months. he will have 110/119 for another 20 years. Dish will be the only satellte company left. The reason for rural areas and some people like satellite easy to operate and change channels in seconds.

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Mister B

Oct 5, 2026

renjy651 said:
Looks like Charlie Ergen will never give up satellite TV. The reason Echostar 25 the most poweful DBS satellite ever built at 110 location already. Also Echostar 26 another super satellite on order for 119 orbital location will be ready in 15 months. he will have 110/119 for another 20 years. Dish will be the only satellte company left. The reason for rural areas and some people like satellite easy to operate and change channels in seconds.

I hope these new "most powerful" satellites will mean that DISH can provide every channel that can be sourced in HD in HD. I do not like the fact that two of my favorite channels (Start and H&I) are SD. I was also very disappointed after installation that METV has to be streamed from my internet connection. Finally, I dropped the locals upon seeing that my local CW channel is in blurry letterboxed SD when it has been HD OTA for years.

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slow_poke_pete

Oct 5, 2026

Mister B said:
I hope these new "most powerful" satellites will mean that DISH can provide every channel that can be sourced in HD in HD. I do not like the fact that two of my favorite channels (Start and H&I) are SD. I was also very disappointed after installation that METV has to be streamed from my internet connection. Finally, I dropped the locals upon seeing that my local CW channel is in blurry letterboxed SD when it has been HD OTA for years.

my me t.v. is in HD via the sat. though it's better PQ via ota

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zippyfrog

Oct 5, 2026

Mister B said:
I hope these new "most powerful" satellites will mean that DISH can provide every channel that can be sourced in HD in HD. I do not like the fact that two of my favorite channels (Start and H&I) are SD. I was also very disappointed after installation that METV has to be streamed from my internet connection. Finally, I dropped the locals upon seeing that my local CW channel is in blurry letterboxed SD when it has been HD OTA for years.

This piece gets me - the fact that Dish has removed SD channels from satellite completely in the name of "HD upgrades". I pay for satellite TV, not streaming...I don't see why they couldn't leave the SD version of the channels on Satellite then put the HD streaming version like they have for other channels.

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telstar_1

Oct 5, 2026

Is any SD-only receiver still operating?

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brad1138

Oct 5, 2026

telstar_1 said:
Is any SD-only receiver still operating?

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navychop

Oct 5, 2026

zippyfrog said:
This piece gets me - the fact that Dish has removed SD channels from satellite completely in the name of "HD upgrades". I pay for satellite TV, not streaming...I don't see why they couldn't leave the SD version of the channels on Satellite then put the HD streaming version like they have for other channels.

CONTRACTS!

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Mister B

Oct 6, 2026

slow_poke_pete said:
my me t.v. is in HD via the sat. though it's better PQ via ota

Yes, I considered D* as I knew some of my favorite channels had better PQ but too many require moving up to the "Choice" package and incurring the Regional Sports Fee.
I do not have METV or any of the Weigel owned channels here in El Paso.

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Henry Sanchez

Today at 5:21 PM

What about the commercial services? will they keep using single Stacked or DP single/dual LNB's?

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telstar_1

Today at 5:58 PM

navychop said:
CONTRACTS!

At this point one can only ask whether any live ch's are still distributed in SD. Other than maybe "classics" ch's that run only older stuff

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