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[VOOM] Wilt -- WB-54 Baltimore Missing -- Was:Re: How to get program guide...

Just got the new box, and it is version 6.00. And it DOES get in
channel 54. However, I have NOT done an OTA scan. In fact, the
service person said not to do the OTA scan.

Any ideas how to get both Baltimore and Washington DC stations? I
have an antenna with rotor that does get all of them in on my Zenith
HDTV tuner.

Thanks,
-John

--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "Charli" <dragonstar@c...> wrote:
> Hey John! Hi neighbor!
> I'm over here on Kent Island and have the exact same results with
> now getting Balto & DC but lost the WB on 54. I have it fully in
the
> program guide, however and a strength of 99 it but says no signal
> received, try later. Will be interested to see how your new box
> does,
> good luck with it!
> Charli




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kestlera
Sounds reasonable as they are already sending the "whole" lot.

Maybe the box could be modified to just "pick off" the channels it
wants.

--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "hobesounddarryl" <darrylhall@e...>
wrote:
> In my case, the box does know which channels it is scanning, as it
is nailing the correct
> call letters from 4 different major cities.
>
> Relative to downloading every possible channel... I would guess
that since the Voom
> database knows every zip code associated with every box, they
could set the boxes to
> download the detailed data for every channel within a 200 mile
radius of that zip code.
> The software could then show the guide data for only the channels
that appear in the
> guide. If there is enough storage space inside the box for
channels withing 200 miles of
> your antenna, this seems very plausible.
>
>



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snappingfish
Perhaps Wilt can give us the low-down on how this is supposed to
work. My impression was that the program data is/can be included
with the digital OTA signal, so as long as the STB and the local
station are compatible, AND the local station in fact includes the
program guide info with their signal, the STB should be able to
polulate the guide.

Since these local stations are free to do "whatever" they want with
their allocated bandwidth (19Mbit), they are the ones that decide
what will be broadcast on the various subchannels. I have one local
station that has chosen to broadcast 5 channels (1 main and 4 sub)
instead of HD.

Also, someone who has a standalone STB (no satellite) should also be
able to get the program guide data over the air for the digital
channels.

--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "kestlera" <abnerkestler@h...> wrote:
> Sounds reasonable as they are already sending the "whole" lot.
>
> Maybe the box could be modified to just "pick off" the channels it
> wants.
>




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snappingfish
Perhaps Wilt can give us the low-down on how this is supposed to
work. My impression was that the program data is/can be included
with the digital OTA signal, so as long as the STB and the local
station are compatible, AND the local station in fact includes the
program guide info with their signal, the STB should be able to
polulate the guide.

Since these local stations are free to do "whatever" they want with
their allocated bandwidth (19Mbit), they are the ones that decide
what will be broadcast on the various subchannels. I have one local
station that has chosen to broadcast 5 channels (1 main and 4 sub)
instead of HD.

Also, someone who has a standalone STB (no satellite) should also be
able to get the program guide data over the air for the digital
channels.

--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "kestlera" <abnerkestler@h...> wrote:
> Sounds reasonable as they are already sending the "whole" lot.
>
> Maybe the box could be modified to just "pick off" the channels it
> wants.
>




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hobesounddarryl
I hope you are right and wrong. I hope you are right related to the Voom box being able to
handle PSIP (the information stations can embed in the signal to provide on-screen guides
detailed programming info). I hope you are wrong in that the solution for newly scanned
channels that don't already show programming info will need to depend on PSIP for the
information.

Since Voom serves these other locations with detailed programming info in their guide,
they have the data in the system (in other words, they are not depending on PSIP data to
populate the guide). I've observed with 4 "local" markets that I can tap, a good number of
stations are not implementing or properly implementing the PSIP data in their signal
streams. I strongly hope that we don't have to wait on them to get their PSIP info right.
Instead, I hope that Voom finds a way to map detailed programming guide data based on
our locations and the channels our scans can actually lock. This would provide detailed
data ASAP, without having to wait (what will probably be a very long time) for each station
to get their own PSIP implementation done right.


--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "snappingfish" <snappingfish@y...> wrote:
> Perhaps Wilt can give us the low-down on how this is supposed to
> work. My impression was that the program data is/can be included
> with the digital OTA signal, so as long as the STB and the local
> station are compatible, AND the local station in fact includes the
> program guide info with their signal, the STB should be able to
> polulate the guide.
>
> Since these local stations are free to do "whatever" they want with
> their allocated bandwidth (19Mbit), they are the ones that decide
> what will be broadcast on the various subchannels. I have one local
> station that has chosen to broadcast 5 channels (1 main and 4 sub)
> instead of HD.
>
> Also, someone who has a standalone STB (no satellite) should also be
> able to get the program guide data over the air for the digital
> channels.
>
> --- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "kestlera" <abnerkestler@h...> wrote:
> > Sounds reasonable as they are already sending the "whole" lot.
> >
> > Maybe the box could be modified to just "pick off" the channels it
> > wants.
> >



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hobesounddarryl
I hope you are right and wrong. I hope you are right related to the Voom box being able to
handle PSIP (the information stations can embed in the signal to provide on-screen guides
detailed programming info). I hope you are wrong in that the solution for newly scanned
channels that don't already show programming info will need to depend on PSIP for the
information.

Since Voom serves these other locations with detailed programming info in their guide,
they have the data in the system (in other words, they are not depending on PSIP data to
populate the guide). I've observed with 4 "local" markets that I can tap, a good number of
stations are not implementing or properly implementing the PSIP data in their signal
streams. I strongly hope that we don't have to wait on them to get their PSIP info right.
Instead, I hope that Voom finds a way to map detailed programming guide data based on
our locations and the channels our scans can actually lock. This would provide detailed
data ASAP, without having to wait (what will probably be a very long time) for each station
to get their own PSIP implementation done right.


--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "snappingfish" <snappingfish@y...> wrote:
> Perhaps Wilt can give us the low-down on how this is supposed to
> work. My impression was that the program data is/can be included
> with the digital OTA signal, so as long as the STB and the local
> station are compatible, AND the local station in fact includes the
> program guide info with their signal, the STB should be able to
> polulate the guide.
>
> Since these local stations are free to do "whatever" they want with
> their allocated bandwidth (19Mbit), they are the ones that decide
> what will be broadcast on the various subchannels. I have one local
> station that has chosen to broadcast 5 channels (1 main and 4 sub)
> instead of HD.
>
> Also, someone who has a standalone STB (no satellite) should also be
> able to get the program guide data over the air for the digital
> channels.
>
> --- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "kestlera" <abnerkestler@h...> wrote:
> > Sounds reasonable as they are already sending the "whole" lot.
> >
> > Maybe the box could be modified to just "pick off" the channels it
> > wants.
> >



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Marvel Television’s VisionQuest


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Watched the first episode and enjoyed it.
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Apparently I'm not a big enough nerd🤓 since I did not read every Marvel Comic Book ever published. If I had, I might be comparing the comics' version of events compared to what's transpiring in "Visionquest". So, I am enjoying the series a lot, not weighed down by previous expectations, knowing only the Avengers MCU movies and the "Wandavision" / "Agatha All Along" TV series.

I found the Mr Know-it-All channel from his discussion about "Star Trek: Strange New Worlds" and he's been gleefully picking these episodes apart, referencing the Marvel comics from the 1939 on. Turns out A.I. has been around since before World War II, at least in the comics. (Robots before that, yes, yes.) This show is going back into the archives.
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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Dish Bankruptcy - Business as Usual

Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
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nelson61 said:
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SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
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Can't remember where or who I saw predict this. :D

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
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Bruce
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Scott Greczkowski said:
It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
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Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
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Bruce said:
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
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I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
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Scott Greczkowski said:
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
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Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.
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Bruce said:
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.
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Just a guess on my part but there may be some value to aquring to get all the retransmision agreements that are in place even though at some point they need to be renewed
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www.lightreading.com

SpaceX boldly goes into 'huge' 5G network rollout with Qualcomm

After trying satellites and small cells, Elon Musk's SpaceX is to build a terrestrial mobile network across tens of thousands of sites with Qualcomm.
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nelson61 said:
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SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
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If Musk really wants to buy Boost, he might get a great price once Dish Wireless is out of Chapter 11.

Boost just lost 182,000 subs in the 3rd quarter-

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Other than the price, my experience with Boost is not that different than what I experienced with my years with Cricket. I will be curious to see what happens if SpaceX takes the reins.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Saved OTA list on Dish can't be appended

I have Dish with Hopper3. I choose to get local channels OTA and had a "guide list" established at my previous home. Having moved a few miles away, I wanted to update the list by appending a couple new stations via a rescan. As many would know, some stations come in with the UHF/VHF antenna aimed in one direction, while others come in better with a different direction.

Unfortunately, when a scan is done (bringing in 25-30 stations for that particular antenna aim), the dialog screen does not present the established guide list; it presents an empty field to the right that the scanned stations may be selected one by one and added to the empty guide. But because of antenna aim, some stations originally saved are missing, and would have to be retrieved with a different antenna aim. But as I explain, if a 2nd​ scan is done with a different antenna aim, the stations saved from the first scan are lost.

It troubles me that Dish didn't develop software that would allow a user to simply append only 1 or 2 channels to the established list. :mad:

Any thought on this? Has anyone experienced this or heard of this from others?
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dishstaller
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I could very well be wrong....it has been a LOT of years but back when I had a 722K it seemed like when you went back to the scan screen that you could just scan again and it would ADD those channels to the previous list or you could delete the previous results and only add the channels from the new scan.
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Methinks you are wrong, Dishstaller - at least for what I see now..
I so wish that functionality was available ...
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dishstaller said:
I could very well be wrong....it has been a LOT of years but back when I had a 722K it seemed like when you went back to the scan screen that you could just scan again and it would ADD those channels to the previous list or you could delete the previous results and only add the channels from the new scan.
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I am not sure about that but I do know that you could manually add additional channels just by entering the actual RF channel number and the older receivers would add the virtual channels to your list
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n0qcu said:
I am not sure about that but I do know that you could manually add additional channels just by entering the actual RF channel number and the older receivers would add the virtual channels to your list
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Like I said.....that has been many years ago. Swapped my 722K for a Hopper in 2012.

It does seem like I remember having to delete the existing channels when we did a rescan. Back then our local stations KEPT monkeying around with things and it was non-stop complaints from customers about their channels not coming in. Got so bad that I stopped selling OR installing OTAs....something I had been doing since 1984 so you know it HAD to be pretty bad.
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You made one of my points for me with this comment, Dishstaller:

"... local stations KEPT monkeying around with things and it was non-stop complaints from customers about their channels not coming in ..."
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NFL 2026-2027 Season

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Bucs vs Falcons game. Setting modern football back to the ice age. Honorable mention to Tua Penix err ... Michael Tagov .... well, you know what I mean.
Bengals fans acting like Burrow just won the MVP after his performance. I get it. 6 scores is awesome. But. He also turned the ball over 4 times and required overtime to beat the 1-win Titans. So spare me the parade.
Chiefs. Not because they lost. It was a close game decided on the last play vs. a divisional rival on the road. That's always rough. But because of their whining over the CLEAR flag they got on the would-be winning play. They are used to getting the calls, and when they don't, they complain. Honorable mention to Mahomes for this quote: "I mean, at the end of the day, you have to go with whatever is called, but a lot of times in those big moments, the little stuff doesn't get called like that"... so you admit it was a penalty?? Just shut up, man.
Colts. They began the fire sale earlier in the week, and it showed. This team is cooked; Daniel Jones should go to the bench, and Steichen will be fired pretty soon.
Chargers. Wow. That's all I got.
Miami. For having the Pats sort of on the ropes and letting them go.
Eagles. Another team that should consider selling some assets. They are going nowhere.
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Balls
Bears. Took care of the elite Seahawks defense in a great performance.
NFC North. The entire division is 2 games above .500
Lions. Finally handed an L to that weird Minnesota team. Good vibes for Jack Campbell.
Pitt. Took the lead of the division convincingly.
Bengals vs Titans game. Fireworks game. Not sure it was a well-played game, but it sure was fun. JoeyB with 6 scores... and 4 turnovers.
Denver. They keep winning, man. Payton is a baller of a coach.
Packers. Thorough beatdown of the hard-to-read Panthers.
Jags. Demolished the hapless Colts.
Rams. The Super team finally wins back-to-back games.


Goats
Vikings. Took their first L. I know their D is insane, but their offense is setting back football to the 1950's.
Cowboys. Lost a 2-score lead vs. the Gardner Minshew-led Cards... at home. Embarrassing.
Browns. Playing for the division lead by scoring 6 points.
Bucs vs Falcons game. Setting modern football back to the ice age. Honorable mention to Tua Penix err ... Michael Tagov .... well, you know what I mean.
Bengals fans acting like Burrow just won the MVP after his performance. I get it. 6 scores is awesome. But. He also turned the ball over 4 times and required overtime to beat the 1-win Titans. So spare me the parade.
Chiefs. Not because they lost. It was a close game decided on the last play vs. a divisional rival on the road. That's always rough. But because of their whining over the CLEAR flag they got on the would-be winning play. They are used to getting the calls, and when they don't, they complain. Honorable mention to Mahomes for this quote: "I mean, at the end of the day, you have to go with whatever is called, but a lot of times in those big moments, the little stuff doesn't get called like that"... so you admit it was a penalty?? Just shut up, man.
Colts. They began the fire sale earlier in the week, and it showed. This team is cooked; Daniel Jones should go to the bench, and Steichen will be fired pretty soon.
Chargers. Wow. That's all I got.
Miami. For having the Pats sort of on the ropes and letting them go.
Eagles. Another team that should consider selling some assets. They are going nowhere.
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Mahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.🙄
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Just the same vilification as players like Brady experienced, a product of their success and largely overblown (just like them 'getting all the calls').
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Mahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.🙄
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Well you see him more because he is incredibly talented. And yes, typically players try to spin things being in their favor. This isn't cricket where sportsmanship (except in Australia) is expected.
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Mahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.🙄
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He wants to be Brady
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Just the same vilification as players like Brady experienced, a product of their success and largely overblown (just like them 'getting all the calls').
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The only people who deny what Brady got from the officials are Brady fans
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The NFL, for some time, has protected the marquee quarterbacks. Brady, Mahomes, Allen, Burrow - they all get the calls.
The lower tier QBs don't seem to get the same benefit. For instance, some of the hits that Darnold took from Chicago on Monday night would have been a flag frenzy if any of the marquee QBs were hit like that. And I am not in any way a fan of anything Seahawks related. I am a fan of balanced officiating - and that hasn't been the case for a while.

My team is not immune to this - Fred Warner laid some vicious hits in the Commanders game that I thought should have been flagged - one was, but they picked it up.

Not a good look on NFL officials.
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