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vurbano
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Last reply · posted in The HD DVD / Blu-ray WAR ZONE!
December 26th 2007
Warner bitten by Bluray problems yet again

On December 21, news broke that Warner Home Entertainment's release of Terminator 3 was marred by a problem. It appears that whoever was doing the encode for Warner was doing a "Fake PiP" second encode. "Fake PiP" is a trick whereby a second encode of a film is done which includes the PiP commentary window "pre-encoded" into it (such as used by Lionsgate in the past) to get around the limitations of Bluray's BD 1.0 "profile", which is unable to decode two video streams, such as how it is done by ALL HD DVD players.

However, it appears that an error was made that forced the playback of the "PiP" version of the movie to only playback in 1080i, instead of 1080p.

The report came only a day after news broke of problems with the company's release of "Blade Runner" to the Bluray format. As a result of apparent Bluray production issues, the fifth disc in the set was actually an incorrectly labelled copy of the first disc.

This news, in turn, came only a week after ANOTHER Bluray manufacturing issue saw HD DVD discs, incorrectly lablled as Bluray, inserted into the Bluray version of some Harry Potter giftsets.

It is unknown what steps in the Bluray production and manufacturing are causing all these problems, but I'd imagine that Warner could NOT be all that happy about it - particularly as it has caused them to receive complaints from customers.

In a post to the one of the forums, an unverified insider who claimed to have insider info on Warner made the following statement:

The blu-ray production problems are pissing people off big time at the company. **'Harry Potter' set, 'T3', and 'Blade Runner' were mentioned by my contact. He said it was turning into some kind of "running joke" within the division but he's been hearing grumbles about it from just about everyone. The most interesting thing he told me was concerning the 'Pirates..' production problem and "at least Disney got it too". I asked my contact about Sony supplimenting Blu production for the Warner inventory and all he said was "that's the only reason certain people here haven't had heart attacks over it."**

As mentioned in the post, Warner is certainly not the only studio to be hit with Bluray production issues, but Warner is certainly the most critical studio for Bluray, if they are to stay in the game.

However, if I were Warner, it would be just another indication that Bluray might not be the best way to go...

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ONUOsFan
This is really getting sad. "Bluray manufacturing problems"? How is someone at Warner putting an HD-DVD into a Blu-Ray box a "Bluray manufacturing problem"?

Same thing goes for the Blade Runner issue. That's a Warner problem, not a Blu-ray one (kind of like the Disney issues you've harped on constantly).

Even the Terminator thing is not really a Blu-Ray issue... yes, they had to do this because of the 1.0 limitation, but that didn't force them to screw it up.

Even coming from you, Vurbano, this is a little surprising. Well, no, I guess it's really not.
randers29259
I thought there was no difference between 1080i and 1080p, so what is the big deal here
BlackHitachi
I thought there was no difference between 1080i and 1080p, so what is the big deal here

When it's Blu ray it's a very BIG deal!! When it's HD DVD it's ok!!
akodoreign
When it's Blu ray it's a very BIG deal!! When it's HD DVD it's ok!!

It's only an issue with blue because you guys always harp how much better Blue is because everything is 1080p even the special features.

:D

So this one isn't. It derails all previous arguments you guys had that everything on blue was 1080p.
vurbano
This is really getting sad. "Bluray manufacturing problems"? How is someone at Warner putting an HD-DVD into a Blu-Ray box a "Bluray manufacturing problem"?

Same thing goes for the Blade Runner issue. That's a Warner problem, not a Blu-ray one (kind of like the Disney issues you've harped on constantly).

Even the Terminator thing is not really a Blu-Ray issue... yes, they had to do this because of the 1.0 limitation, but that didn't force them to screw it up.

Even coming from you, Vurbano, this is a little surprising. Well, no, I guess it's really not.
actually it was reffered to as a manufacturing "issue"
ONUOsFan
It's only an issue with blue because you guys always harp how much better Blue is because everything is 1080p even the special features.

:D

So this one isn't. It derails all previous arguments you guys had that everything on blue was 1080p.

You're mixing arguments here.

Argument #1: Blu-Ray has special features in HD. Some are in 1080p, some in 1080i, some are not in HD at all. But there have been some high profile releases (see: Harry Potter) where the BD version had extras in HD and the HD-DVD didn't. One would think that (apart from the 51 GB HD-DVD that no one's really using yet) this trend would continue because of the added space of the BD disc. That's different than comparing 1080p and 1080i.

Argument #2: Blu-Ray is better because all PLAYERS are 1080p (all movies are in 1080p for both formats). This is where the gray area comes in that says that 1080i and 1080p for the player doesn't matter much IF you have a TV that will properly convert the 1080i/60 signal back into 1080p. I once thought that this was a bigger deal than I now think it is (back before you guys properly educated me)... personally, I think BD should release a 1080i player that is as cheap as the HD-DVD versions that are 1080i, so there's no confusion any more as to what constitutes an "entry level" player. Then again, why bother if they're getting as close as they are in price now anyway?
ONUOsFan
actually it was reffered to as a manufacturing "issue"

OK, well if all you have left is to complain that I said "problem" instead of "issue," I guess I've made my point.
BlackHitachi
It's only an issue with blue because you guys always harp how much better Blue is because everything is 1080p even the special features.

:D

So this one isn't. It derails all previous arguments you guys had that everything on blue was 1080p.

You GUYS!!:eek:

Purple here!!:p
vurbano
You're mixing arguments here.

Argument #1: Blu-Ray has special features in HD. Some are in 1080p, some in 1080i, some are not in HD at all. But there have been some high profile releases (see: Harry Potter) where the BD version had extras in HD and the HD-DVD didn't. One would think that (apart from the 51 GB HD-DVD that no one's really using yet) this trend would continue because of the added space of the BD disc. That's different than comparing 1080p and 1080i.

Argument #2: Blu-Ray is better because all PLAYERS are 1080p (all movies are in 1080p for both formats). This is where the gray area comes in that says that 1080i and 1080p for the player doesn't matter much IF you have a TV that will properly convert the 1080i/60 signal back into 1080p. I once thought that this was a bigger deal than I now think it is (back before you guys properly educated me)... personally, I think BD should release a 1080i player that is as cheap as the HD-DVD versions that are 1080i, so there's no confusion any more as to what constitutes an "entry level" player. Then again, why bother if they're getting as close as they are in price now anyway?
I think the issue in the article was that the BD was playing back the movie at 1080i when it was supposed to be 1080p. But don't let me interrupt youre clever diversion. BTW arguement #2 is only valid if you can see judder or have a 1080p TV that can't do correct inverse telecine, in which case you should get rid of it ayway.
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Both sides make whatever argument is convenient and accuse the other side of diversion when they see the other side use it.
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osu1991
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
dishstaller
Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
But.....if you like Tulsa King....looks like you would probably like this as well. I don't mind spin-offs as long as they don't involve a sassy niece who moves from the big city :rolleyes:
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I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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Juan
Not alot of dish customers any more
Foxbat
I'm not a big fan of the new layout, especially on my Apple TV. It used to look like the old Guide layout on the Hopper 3, but they changed parts of that, too.
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I really dislike change for the sake of change
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
Jimbo
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
dishstaller
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Might be worth a watch when it comes out. Looks like typical big corp against the little guy movie BUT....there is a reason this plot type is so oft repeated, it draws audiences.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-f9OGsKHd4
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dishstaller
BTW, I noticed right after I posted this that someone else had already mentioned it....sorry for the duplicate thread. Still looking forward to seeing the movie.
meStevo
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If you're going try to read / listen to the book (can't recommend the audio book enough) before this comes out, I'd avoid trailers.

Trailer below, spoiling it to make sure you read the above bold message first. The book / audio book are fantastic. Go into this blind if you can IMO!




Kind of disappointed at how much they show. A lot still to see, but man, some good reveals in the book that are just served up here.
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meStevo
I've seen it twice. Can't recommend the audio book enough, Ray Porter's performance is amazing and there's so much more in the book than the movie.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
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Forgot to comment. I did watch when it first came out on MGM. I enjoyed it a lot. I think reading the book made it easier to watch. Several friends commented it was a little hard to follow.
TRG
TRG
"astrophage". I read the book but didn't see the film yet.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
That's what I will be watching this weekend.🤗
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Kindle book on sale for $2.99 today at Amazon.
dishstaller
.........there's so much more in the book than the movie.
I agree. That can go for pretty much any book vs movie. Back when I was single I would read any Stephen King or John Grisham book I could get my hands on. When you read a book you make up the scenes and characters in your mind.....the movie version always disappoints.
meStevo
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
Y
Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
A big win for the Patriots, and they are now 3-2.

Browns lose a close one with... The Jets. That is a classic Browns loss (granted, any loss is a classic one it seems). 49'ers, Vikings, and Chiefs remain undefeated. The AFC north have a three way tie at 3-2 for second place. :eek:
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
After having experienced Gus Ferguson trying to call soccer games, I'm uncertain why NFL football analysts get hate. Even the "worst" of them are pretty good.
meStevo
Jalen Hurts out indefinitely as they treat and monitor a superficial blood clot in his leg.


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dishstaller
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I had quit watching this show years ago because I ended up more annoyed than entertained. Well......I'm STILL more annoyed than entertained. I DO find it interesting to see how things work behind the scenes at many businesses. What annoys me is how utterly out of touch CEOs are with the companies they run. At the end of almost every episode the head of the company is amazed at how hard the employees have to work and many times have to work around impossible guidelines set forth from headquarters.

I found this one interesting because the new CEO had big plans for this company, Muscle Maker Grill, and it looked like the stores were all pretty busy. Recent history hasn't been good to this company however. I bet the covid lockdowns were the real killer.


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