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Had a long chat with an online service rep initially asking about needing a phone line for service. After a lengthy run around, I finally got a straight answer about the "No Phone Line Fee":down, even though I really didn't get a straight answer on exactly what the phone line is actually used for. I still plan on dropping comcrap to go to Dish, just thought I'd share. Still think the No Phone Line Fee is do-do from large male cow.
You have been connected to (01) Zyra G.
(01) Zyra G: Welcome to Dish Network, the home of Better TV for All. To better assist you with your buying experience and ensure that we can contact you in case this session gets disconnected, may I have your phone number please?
Jacob: I'd rather not, thanks. just have a simple question
(01) Zyra G: That won't be a problem.
Jacob: I was wondering if there is anyway to get around needing a phone line for service. Say connection to ethernet?
(01) Zyra G: How may I help you today?
(01) Zyra G: For me to better assist you, are you a former customer of Dish Network?
Jacob: no, only have had comcast
(01) Zyra G: Thank you for that information.
(01) Zyra G: If I understand you correctly, you don't have an active home phone, am I correct?
Jacob: correct, I only have a Cell Phone and Cable Internet service
(01) Zyra G: We do not require a phone line, but if you have an active phone line that you can plug into the receiver we will waive the $5.00 No Phone Line Fee.
(01) Zyra G: The phone line needs to be connected at the back of a dual tuner receiver.
Jacob: why is a no phone line fee charged?
Jacob: does not having a phone line impact service? If it does, why is it not required?
(01) Zyra G: The $5.00 programming access fee or no phone line fee is an administrative fee to transmit all of the programming from your primary tuner to the additional tuner(s). It requires more resources from our uplink center and our satellites to transmit the additional feed and signal to the additional tuners.
(01) Zyra G: The receiver will still work even if you don't have an active home phone. However, you will not be able to take advantage of our interactive TV services, Customer Support Application, or Caller ID applications. You will also not be able to use your remote control to order any Pay-Per-View events or movies. You also need to take care of the $5 No Phone Line Fee.
(01) Zyra G: Have I answered all your concerns?
Jacob: So you don't have the option of internet connection for service?
(01) Zyra G: Are you referring to having ethernet hooked up to the receiver?
Jacob: yes
(01) Zyra G: Please give me a few minutes while I research that information for you.
(01) Zyra G: I checked my resources, however ethernet can't be hooked up to the receiver.
Jacob: Well that sucks, I should think then that fee should be included in the DVR service fee since all DVRs have dual tuners.
(01) Zyra G: We have different types of dual tuner receivers.
(01) Zyra G: We have a SD dual tuner receiver, SD DVR receiver, HD dual tuner receiver and the HD DVR receiver. These are all dual tuners.
Jacob: right, but all of your DVRs have dual tuners right? and you charge a DVR service fee right?
(01) Zyra G: That is correct. Our DVR receivers are dual tuners.
(01) Zyra G: If you get a DVR receiver, there is a $5.98 video-on-demand fee.
(01) Zyra G: This fee is different from the No Phone Line Fee.
(01) Zyra G: Have I answered all your questions?
Jacob: So the fee isn't for "DVR" service, but for the video-on-demand? So what is the phone line actually needed for besides interactive TV services, Customer Support Application, or Caller ID applications, or Pay-Per-View?
(01) Zyra G: This will also prevent or avoid you from paying an additional $5 on your monthly bill.
(01) Zyra G: Even if you don't have a phone line attached at the back of the DVR receiver, this box can still record, pause live programming, skip commercials and a whole lot more.
Jacob: haha, that's funny. I need a phone line to avoid paying extra money for something I wouldn't use anyway?
(01) Zyra G: The reason why we manufactured a dual tuner receiver is for you to be able to save money since you don't have to pay additional lease fees for each receiver that you will get beyond your 1st box.
(01) Zyra G: Have I addressed your concern?I can assist you in placing your order online.
Jacob: ok, but that still doesn't make sense why I need to pay an extra $5 a month for not having a phone line, when the only thing it's used for is content that I wont use?
Jacob: seems like I have to pay for something that I won't have access to anyway if I don't use a phone line.
(01) Zyra G: If you don't want to be charged the No Phone Line Fee, then you can just get single tuner receivers.
Jacob: But I want DVR service, which you say only have dual tuners
(01) Zyra G: This way you don't have to have an active phone line attached at the back of the receivers.
(01) Zyra G: Yes, that is correct.
(01) Zyra G: I can see your concern about the No Phone Line Fee, however this is just a minimal cost for us to be able to to transmit all of the programming from your primary tuner to the additional tuner(s).
(01) Zyra G: I can assure you that once you have Dish Network service, you would realize that it really pays off.
Jacob: The extra programming is transmitted through the phone line?
Jacob: This is a rhetorical question of course. That extra fee just doesn't make sense to me when all programming is actually sent through the satellite link
(01) Zyra G: As what I have told you earlier, it requires more resources from our uplink center and our satellites to transmit the additional feed and signal to the additional tuners.
Jacob: that still doesn't tell me exactly what the phone line is used for in that regard
Jacob: forgive me, but I couldn't find online what it's used for
(01) Zyra G: The Phone Line is used for you to be able to have access to our interactive features and other cool features as well like ordering pay-per-views through your remote control.
(01) Zyra G: Have I addressed all of your concerns?I can assist you in placing your order online today.
Jacob: and we come back to that. If I don't have a phone line, I don't have access to those services. Why should I be charged for something I will not be using because I don't have a phone line? Seems like it would be a trade off
Jacob: no phone line, no extra features
(01) Zyra G: I can see where you're coming from. As much as I would like to remove the $5 No Phone Line Fee for you, however I really cannot do so. Our system will recognize that your receiver is not attached to a phone line and it's automatically charged by our system.
Jacob: So is there no way this can be waived (besides getting a phone line) in order to aquire a new customer
Jacob: Man, that sucks
Jacob: Well, thank you for your time.
(01) Zyra G: Please give me a few minutes while I research that information for you.
Jacob: ok
(01) Zyra G: Thank you.
(01) Zyra G: Since you told me that you don't have a phone line and you don't want to be charged a $5 No Phone Line Fee, you can purchase a wireless phone jack which is only for $39.
Jacob: ?? what is that?
(01) Zyra G: In this case, you don't have to have an active phone line attached at the back of the receiver.
Jacob: what does that do?
Jacob: Wouldn't I still need phone service for that?
(01) Zyra G: This serves as a replacement for the active phone line.
Jacob: Seems like the same thing as if I were to plug into one of the inactive phone jacks in my house?
(01) Zyra G: You need to plug the base unit into an electrical outlet and an existing phone jack, then plug the extension unit where the satellite receiver is located.
(01) Zyra G: This turns any electrical outlet into a modem or phone jack.
Jacob: ?? Like I said, seems like the same thing as if I plug the receiver into an existing wall phone jack.
Jacob: So I would not need an active phone service?
(01) Zyra G: As long as there is an existing phone line that will do.
Jacob: Again, please answer this question:
Jacob: Do I or do I not need to have active phone service with a phone company in order to waive the phone line fee?
Jacob: Regardless of whether or not I have existing phone line jacks in my house?
(01) Zyra G: You don't need to have an active phone line.
(01) Zyra G: As long as there is an existing phone jack, that will be fine.
Jacob: So I can plug the receiver into a dead phone jack in my house and I will not be charged the phone line fee?
(01) Zyra G: You need to have the wireless phone jack plugged into an electrical outlet and an existing phone jack.
Jacob: You just said I don't need the wireless phone jack if I have an existing phone jack near the receiver
Jacob: "(01) Zyra G: As long as there is an existing phone line that will do. "
(01) Zyra G: What I meant is that, you don't need to have an active home phone as long as you have a wireless phone jack plugged into an electrical outlet and an existing phone line or phone jack.
(01) Zyra G: You may already have your order placed online today so you can enjoy the service.
Jacob: I just read about this wireless phone jack and all they do is make it so you can put a phone where there is not already a phone jack.
(01) Zyra G: Are you currently on our website?
Jacob: You keep dancing around my questions. I just want a clear answer. Can you just tell me that "Jacob, if you plug your satellite receiver into an inactive phone jack, you can waive the $5 No Phone Line Fee. You do not have to pay for Land Line Phone service."
Jacob: yes I am
Jacob: "... and you do not need to pay for a "wireless phone system"
(01) Zyra G: You can't have an inactive phone jack directly connected to the receiver.
(01) Zyra G: That will still charge you the $5 No Phone Line Fee.
Jacob: Why not? You're telling me the wireless phone base can be plugged into an inactive phone jack. What's the difference?
(01) Zyra G: Please give me a few minutes while I check on this information.
Jacob: Sure, take your time
(01) Zyra G: I tried to check my resources again, I do apologize for any inconvenience. Let me correct myself, you really need to have an active phone line so you won't be charged the $5 No Phone Line Fee.
Jacob: Ah, I see and there really is no way to get around that?
(01) Zyra G: Yes, as much as we would like to waive the $5 No Phone Line Fee we really can't do so unless you have an active phone line attached to the receiver.
(01) Zyra G: Let me correct myself, the wireless phone jack needs to be plugged in to an existing and active phone jack.
Jacob: LOL, ok. Well, thank you for your time. Have a good day.
(01) Zyra G: You're welcome.
(01) Zyra G: Have I answered all your questions? I can assist you in placing your order online today.
Jacob: You have, but no not today. Thank you.
/end session
You have been connected to (01) Zyra G.
(01) Zyra G: Welcome to Dish Network, the home of Better TV for All. To better assist you with your buying experience and ensure that we can contact you in case this session gets disconnected, may I have your phone number please?
Jacob: I'd rather not, thanks. just have a simple question
(01) Zyra G: That won't be a problem.
Jacob: I was wondering if there is anyway to get around needing a phone line for service. Say connection to ethernet?
(01) Zyra G: How may I help you today?
(01) Zyra G: For me to better assist you, are you a former customer of Dish Network?
Jacob: no, only have had comcast
(01) Zyra G: Thank you for that information.
(01) Zyra G: If I understand you correctly, you don't have an active home phone, am I correct?
Jacob: correct, I only have a Cell Phone and Cable Internet service
(01) Zyra G: We do not require a phone line, but if you have an active phone line that you can plug into the receiver we will waive the $5.00 No Phone Line Fee.
(01) Zyra G: The phone line needs to be connected at the back of a dual tuner receiver.
Jacob: why is a no phone line fee charged?
Jacob: does not having a phone line impact service? If it does, why is it not required?
(01) Zyra G: The $5.00 programming access fee or no phone line fee is an administrative fee to transmit all of the programming from your primary tuner to the additional tuner(s). It requires more resources from our uplink center and our satellites to transmit the additional feed and signal to the additional tuners.
(01) Zyra G: The receiver will still work even if you don't have an active home phone. However, you will not be able to take advantage of our interactive TV services, Customer Support Application, or Caller ID applications. You will also not be able to use your remote control to order any Pay-Per-View events or movies. You also need to take care of the $5 No Phone Line Fee.
(01) Zyra G: Have I answered all your concerns?
Jacob: So you don't have the option of internet connection for service?
(01) Zyra G: Are you referring to having ethernet hooked up to the receiver?
Jacob: yes
(01) Zyra G: Please give me a few minutes while I research that information for you.
(01) Zyra G: I checked my resources, however ethernet can't be hooked up to the receiver.
Jacob: Well that sucks, I should think then that fee should be included in the DVR service fee since all DVRs have dual tuners.
(01) Zyra G: We have different types of dual tuner receivers.
(01) Zyra G: We have a SD dual tuner receiver, SD DVR receiver, HD dual tuner receiver and the HD DVR receiver. These are all dual tuners.
Jacob: right, but all of your DVRs have dual tuners right? and you charge a DVR service fee right?
(01) Zyra G: That is correct. Our DVR receivers are dual tuners.
(01) Zyra G: If you get a DVR receiver, there is a $5.98 video-on-demand fee.
(01) Zyra G: This fee is different from the No Phone Line Fee.
(01) Zyra G: Have I answered all your questions?
Jacob: So the fee isn't for "DVR" service, but for the video-on-demand? So what is the phone line actually needed for besides interactive TV services, Customer Support Application, or Caller ID applications, or Pay-Per-View?
(01) Zyra G: This will also prevent or avoid you from paying an additional $5 on your monthly bill.
(01) Zyra G: Even if you don't have a phone line attached at the back of the DVR receiver, this box can still record, pause live programming, skip commercials and a whole lot more.
Jacob: haha, that's funny. I need a phone line to avoid paying extra money for something I wouldn't use anyway?
(01) Zyra G: The reason why we manufactured a dual tuner receiver is for you to be able to save money since you don't have to pay additional lease fees for each receiver that you will get beyond your 1st box.
(01) Zyra G: Have I addressed your concern?I can assist you in placing your order online.
Jacob: ok, but that still doesn't make sense why I need to pay an extra $5 a month for not having a phone line, when the only thing it's used for is content that I wont use?
Jacob: seems like I have to pay for something that I won't have access to anyway if I don't use a phone line.
(01) Zyra G: If you don't want to be charged the No Phone Line Fee, then you can just get single tuner receivers.
Jacob: But I want DVR service, which you say only have dual tuners
(01) Zyra G: This way you don't have to have an active phone line attached at the back of the receivers.
(01) Zyra G: Yes, that is correct.
(01) Zyra G: I can see your concern about the No Phone Line Fee, however this is just a minimal cost for us to be able to to transmit all of the programming from your primary tuner to the additional tuner(s).
(01) Zyra G: I can assure you that once you have Dish Network service, you would realize that it really pays off.
Jacob: The extra programming is transmitted through the phone line?
Jacob: This is a rhetorical question of course. That extra fee just doesn't make sense to me when all programming is actually sent through the satellite link
(01) Zyra G: As what I have told you earlier, it requires more resources from our uplink center and our satellites to transmit the additional feed and signal to the additional tuners.
Jacob: that still doesn't tell me exactly what the phone line is used for in that regard
Jacob: forgive me, but I couldn't find online what it's used for
(01) Zyra G: The Phone Line is used for you to be able to have access to our interactive features and other cool features as well like ordering pay-per-views through your remote control.
(01) Zyra G: Have I addressed all of your concerns?I can assist you in placing your order online today.
Jacob: and we come back to that. If I don't have a phone line, I don't have access to those services. Why should I be charged for something I will not be using because I don't have a phone line? Seems like it would be a trade off
Jacob: no phone line, no extra features
(01) Zyra G: I can see where you're coming from. As much as I would like to remove the $5 No Phone Line Fee for you, however I really cannot do so. Our system will recognize that your receiver is not attached to a phone line and it's automatically charged by our system.
Jacob: So is there no way this can be waived (besides getting a phone line) in order to aquire a new customer
Jacob: Man, that sucks
Jacob: Well, thank you for your time.
(01) Zyra G: Please give me a few minutes while I research that information for you.
Jacob: ok
(01) Zyra G: Thank you.
(01) Zyra G: Since you told me that you don't have a phone line and you don't want to be charged a $5 No Phone Line Fee, you can purchase a wireless phone jack which is only for $39.
Jacob: ?? what is that?
(01) Zyra G: In this case, you don't have to have an active phone line attached at the back of the receiver.
Jacob: what does that do?
Jacob: Wouldn't I still need phone service for that?
(01) Zyra G: This serves as a replacement for the active phone line.
Jacob: Seems like the same thing as if I were to plug into one of the inactive phone jacks in my house?
(01) Zyra G: You need to plug the base unit into an electrical outlet and an existing phone jack, then plug the extension unit where the satellite receiver is located.
(01) Zyra G: This turns any electrical outlet into a modem or phone jack.
Jacob: ?? Like I said, seems like the same thing as if I plug the receiver into an existing wall phone jack.
Jacob: So I would not need an active phone service?
(01) Zyra G: As long as there is an existing phone line that will do.
Jacob: Again, please answer this question:
Jacob: Do I or do I not need to have active phone service with a phone company in order to waive the phone line fee?
Jacob: Regardless of whether or not I have existing phone line jacks in my house?
(01) Zyra G: You don't need to have an active phone line.
(01) Zyra G: As long as there is an existing phone jack, that will be fine.
Jacob: So I can plug the receiver into a dead phone jack in my house and I will not be charged the phone line fee?
(01) Zyra G: You need to have the wireless phone jack plugged into an electrical outlet and an existing phone jack.
Jacob: You just said I don't need the wireless phone jack if I have an existing phone jack near the receiver
Jacob: "(01) Zyra G: As long as there is an existing phone line that will do. "
(01) Zyra G: What I meant is that, you don't need to have an active home phone as long as you have a wireless phone jack plugged into an electrical outlet and an existing phone line or phone jack.
(01) Zyra G: You may already have your order placed online today so you can enjoy the service.
Jacob: I just read about this wireless phone jack and all they do is make it so you can put a phone where there is not already a phone jack.
(01) Zyra G: Are you currently on our website?
Jacob: You keep dancing around my questions. I just want a clear answer. Can you just tell me that "Jacob, if you plug your satellite receiver into an inactive phone jack, you can waive the $5 No Phone Line Fee. You do not have to pay for Land Line Phone service."
Jacob: yes I am
Jacob: "... and you do not need to pay for a "wireless phone system"
(01) Zyra G: You can't have an inactive phone jack directly connected to the receiver.
(01) Zyra G: That will still charge you the $5 No Phone Line Fee.
Jacob: Why not? You're telling me the wireless phone base can be plugged into an inactive phone jack. What's the difference?
(01) Zyra G: Please give me a few minutes while I check on this information.
Jacob: Sure, take your time
(01) Zyra G: I tried to check my resources again, I do apologize for any inconvenience. Let me correct myself, you really need to have an active phone line so you won't be charged the $5 No Phone Line Fee.
Jacob: Ah, I see and there really is no way to get around that?
(01) Zyra G: Yes, as much as we would like to waive the $5 No Phone Line Fee we really can't do so unless you have an active phone line attached to the receiver.
(01) Zyra G: Let me correct myself, the wireless phone jack needs to be plugged in to an existing and active phone jack.
Jacob: LOL, ok. Well, thank you for your time. Have a good day.
(01) Zyra G: You're welcome.
(01) Zyra G: Have I answered all your questions? I can assist you in placing your order online today.
Jacob: You have, but no not today. Thank you.
/end session
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Well just for this thread, i will call my cell phone company and demand that they dont charge me 9.99 for the additional phone fee. Oh wait also I should call my insurance company to waive the additional fees for the other cars! Maybe that will work , Ill just tell them that direct tv doesnt charge for additional receivers. LOL
OHH OHHH when I go to the movies, ill tell them I should not pay for the additional person thats watching it with me
because we all came in the same car 
The dirty honest truth is.. of you dont like it.. simply get out? right?
put out(the cash) or get out.. lol no offense to anyone but its cruel reality.
OHH OHHH when I go to the movies, ill tell them I should not pay for the additional person thats watching it with me
because we all came in the same car The dirty honest truth is.. of you dont like it.. simply get out? right?
put out(the cash) or get out.. lol no offense to anyone but its cruel reality.
Season 2 order already in hand:
'Star Trek: Starfleet Academy' Renewed for Season 2, Tatiana Maslany to Guest Star in Season 1
I've not been optimistic about this show based on what I've read so far. Seems to be aimed at a younger audience. Interesting though that Tatiana Maslany will have some sort of role.
'Star Trek: Starfleet Academy' Renewed for Season 2, Tatiana Maslany to Guest Star in Season 1
I've not been optimistic about this show based on what I've read so far. Seems to be aimed at a younger audience. Interesting though that Tatiana Maslany will have some sort of role.
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As has always been the case for those consumed by their own financial enrichment.
The title was to catch everyone's eye lol! But it is a thought I've been having as I dev a Roku app for a client. You see many MAAANY years ago I got really interested in cable TV channels and even chatted with a regional carrier, Insight about what it took to get a channel number. It was surprisingly easy although prohibitively expensive.
You could petition, reserve a high channel number, they monitored performance and if they liked you, you'd get lower channel number overtime and cut into ad overlays.
Roku has a similar setup. Make an app, if it has a strong, original linear component you could get channel assignment on The Roku Channel.
As mixed as my feelings are on the current media landscape, I can't help but feel a little excited interest when I scope out the apps in the Roku store.
You could petition, reserve a high channel number, they monitored performance and if they liked you, you'd get lower channel number overtime and cut into ad overlays.
Roku has a similar setup. Make an app, if it has a strong, original linear component you could get channel assignment on The Roku Channel.
As mixed as my feelings are on the current media landscape, I can't help but feel a little excited interest when I scope out the apps in the Roku store.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Don't know if any of you have watched this series yet, it would be interesting to see if you feel this review was accurate. It was very humorous to listen to however.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tsDO3y8I2c
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Halfway into the "written" review, I know more about how the writer "thinks" than I do about what they are writing about. I understand their politics, their self-overestimated understanding of film, their inability to be funny.
Takes about 22 paragraphs to get to one that starts "Anyway, the story kicks off...". Talk about Slop!
If the review is like the article, oi! Eighteen paragraphs into the review and... all they've done is not really talk at all about the actual thing they are reviewing.
Halfway into the "written" review, I know more about how the writer "thinks" than I do about what they are writing about. I understand their politics, their self-overestimated understanding of film, their inability to be funny.
Takes about 22 paragraphs to get to one that starts "Anyway, the story kicks off...". Talk about Slop!
TFLEV
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@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8
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@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8
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Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2QtsO2mlXM
Direct YouTube Link - This Web Vulnerability Shook the Tech World
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Direct YouTube Link - This Web Vulnerability Shook the Tech World
TWIT's Website
TWIT Live Feed
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I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.
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Unfortunately, I don't think my social proximity to Charle Ergen provides any special perks. Maybe if Foxbat, Jr. were to marry his daughter…have charlie buy you a new house
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that would be one hell of a convoUnfortunately, I don't think my social proximity to Charle Ergen provides any special perks. Maybe if Foxbat, Jr. were to marry his daughter…
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Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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I remember this in the news too...
www.nbcnews.com
$14,000 spent on rented rotary phone
A widow rented a rotary dial telephone for 42 years, paying what her family calculates as more than $14,000 for a now- outdated phone.
www.nbcnews.com
That is a misnomer. In the old days you subscribed to telephone service. That included the telephone line and one telephone. An extension cost $1 a month extra. So that $14,000 over 42 years was for the service not the leased telephone. There is no way they paid $28 a month for 42 years for a leased telephone.I remember this in the news too...
$14,000 spent on rented rotary phone
A widow rented a rotary dial telephone for 42 years, paying what her family calculates as more than $14,000 for a now- outdated phone.
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me either. sometimes it seems like things disappear when they start changing sh*t around
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So...DirecTV advertises the Choice package with 95+ bonus channels for Satellite customers. You don't want 90+ of the 95...
Excluding PPV, premium networks, infomercial, shopping, religion, and non-English programming, there are 7 channels on satellite that are not on streaming:
NFL Network, MavTV, FE TV, Free Speech, NASA, INSP, and Pursuit. I'm pretty sure a couple of those are public interest that they have to carry to meet an FCC quota on satellite.
I hope they get called out for this advertising because that is ridiculous. One big network, NFL, will probably get added to streaming when their next agreement comes up, and the rest are likely very low viewership.
What about streaming, what do you get extra with the Choice package that isn't on Satellite:
Two stations - one of which is an internet TV - Fox Weather, and Heros & Icons (a diginet). Nothing special here to look at either.
If they cleaned up a couple of their agreements, added a few public interest stations to streaming, they could probably have their lineups match. It's close now, if you take out all the garbage on satellite that they earn money on. If they can sell infomercials on satellite, why can't they on streaming, seems like a miss. A bigger miss, including those stations in the "bonus channels just for satellite customers." Pretty sad marketing right there.
Attached is a comparison sheet of satellite vs streaming for the three main packages if anyone is interested.
MOD EDIT: See Post #3 for an up to date list of what channels are available on sat but not on streaming/internet, see Post #21 for an up to date list of what's available in the app for streaming customers, but not for sat customers.
Excluding PPV, premium networks, infomercial, shopping, religion, and non-English programming, there are 7 channels on satellite that are not on streaming:
NFL Network, MavTV, FE TV, Free Speech, NASA, INSP, and Pursuit. I'm pretty sure a couple of those are public interest that they have to carry to meet an FCC quota on satellite.
I hope they get called out for this advertising because that is ridiculous. One big network, NFL, will probably get added to streaming when their next agreement comes up, and the rest are likely very low viewership.
What about streaming, what do you get extra with the Choice package that isn't on Satellite:
Two stations - one of which is an internet TV - Fox Weather, and Heros & Icons (a diginet). Nothing special here to look at either.
If they cleaned up a couple of their agreements, added a few public interest stations to streaming, they could probably have their lineups match. It's close now, if you take out all the garbage on satellite that they earn money on. If they can sell infomercials on satellite, why can't they on streaming, seems like a miss. A bigger miss, including those stations in the "bonus channels just for satellite customers." Pretty sad marketing right there.
Attached is a comparison sheet of satellite vs streaming for the three main packages if anyone is interested.
MOD EDIT: See Post #3 for an up to date list of what channels are available on sat but not on streaming/internet, see Post #21 for an up to date list of what's available in the app for streaming customers, but not for sat customers.
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