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JoeSp
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Last reply · posted in The HD DVD / Blu-ray WAR ZONE!
I have watched over the last two weeks as the BD fans have celebrated and the HD-DVD fans have commiserated about their format. I have noticed three defineable paths developing in the postings.

First, now that HD-DVD is argueably on the ropes HDM no longer has a disc based future. In fact, some HD-DVD fans are suggesting that they will go back to DVD because it looks pretty good upconverted and is relatively inexpensive when compared to HDM on disc. However, when you go into any Brick & Motor and they have a HDM disc setup that includes a decent sound setup people stand and watch. They are enticed and this is not the way the consumer acts when looking at something that they have no interest in. Sometimes crowds will form and watch a whole movie in HD.

Second, BD will never overtake DVD and therefore will be relegated to a niche market. Once again I guess this is because HD-DVD was the only choice for a next gen HDM disc based product that could succeed here. Gee, did everyone here forget so soon how expensive laser disc and then DVD was to get into and to get started? Once the price of the product came down and the retailers started pushing the product J6P started buying and DVD pushed out tape and laser disc -- and that did not happen overnight.

Third, and this is where I am very surprised, HD in general will not take off because even if J6P purchases an HDTV he will not know how to hook it up to a any HD source. Wow, so you think that J6P is going to step into a store and see Nascar, Football, Baseball or his favorite movie playing on a HDTV with a HD audio setup and he is not going to want it? I guess some of you guys out there need to have your testosterone check.

Now to step back and take a look at this and try to put this in the perspective that everyone now seems to be debating is: High Definition is a dead cow, it will not work because J6P will not buy and if he does he is not smart enough to know the differance between SD and HD and will not know how to hook it up. HDM disc (BD) will not go mainstream because it is not HD-DVD because it is too expensive and J6P once again will not know the differance between upconverted SD and BD and finally J6P will not want HD because it is not selling for $100!

Quite frankly I find this take on the health of High Definition and its mediums a lark! And all of this just because it appears that BD won the format war?
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digiblur
My very first post in the war zone. Why? Because I think it is silly to fight in the forums over some shiny circular piece of plastic. I'll just let it play out and enjoy my DVD's for now. It's not HD but still looks great and sounds great, a lot better than broadcast SD!

I'm too integrated with the existing DVD format. When I get a new DVD, I rip it down to just the video without the nonsense menus and extras, and put it on the media server. The DVD goes into storage. I've got three XBox's with XBox Media Center on the network and one HTPC to watch the DVDs where ever we want in the house. No discs to mess with or get scratched, lost, etc. The kids love it.

Sample screen shot from the XBox.

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BPeter
A lot of interesting points indeed. I am no expert, but I thought I would chime in. It seems to me that with the recent tech changes with HD and HDM, there is so much misinformation, that people are afraid to make the leap. I know at least a handful of people that have a HDTV and have no HD source. People buy a new tv and don't understand that to get HD to display on the TV the source has to BE HD. They see the little icons on the screen at the beginning of a show that says available in HD and they think that they are watching in HD. I can't tell you how many times I have talked to friends and family to explain that even if they get an HD Cable box or Sat box, they need to run HDMI or Component Cables to the TV. They just don't get it. To compound the problem, BB and CC sell the cables at such inflated prices that they won't buy them anyway. As my brother-in-law recently stated, my friends and family are lucky to have a geek like me to lead them through the maze that is HD and even Digital Audio. People in the mainstream market just don't get that there are better places to buy cables and gear, or really what they need to get. The initial cash outlay for most folks is absurd. For most folks to consider buying HD-DVD or BR, they would first need an HDTV, then the audio is not on par with the video, so now we are talking a receiver. My brother-in-law mentioned that money could be made helping people navigate all the misinformation and get them what they really need at a fair price, or at least make the best out of what they have. I think that is the biggest challenge. HDM seems to depend on HDTV acceptance in general to succeed. There are a lot of people that still think that next Feb, everything is going to be HD. There are companies selling HD Antennas. How is a UHF antenna suddenly HD. Because they can sell it for more $$. At the end of the day, the BBs and CCs of the world are having a feeding frenzy on peoples lack of knowledge, and ultimately the consumer loses.
gadgtfreek
You are very right. My father in law has bought 3 hd-dvd combo discs because he thought by having a HDTV and upconverting DVD player he could watch them in HD. He plans to buy a BD player soon. Funny huh.
teamerickson
You are very right. My father in law has bought 3 hd-dvd combo discs because he thought by having a HDTV and upconverting DVD player he could watch them in HD. He plans to buy a BD player soon. Funny huh.
Those combo discs won't play in HD when using a BD player. :p
gadgtfreek
Those combo discs won't play in HD when using a BD player. :p

Hehe, you shoulda seen his face when I told him that.

"what do you mean I cant watch them in HD, even if I buy a BD player"

:D
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osu1991
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
dishstaller
Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
But.....if you like Tulsa King....looks like you would probably like this as well. I don't mind spin-offs as long as they don't involve a sassy niece who moves from the big city :rolleyes:
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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Juan
Not alot of dish customers any more
Foxbat
I'm not a big fan of the new layout, especially on my Apple TV. It used to look like the old Guide layout on the Hopper 3, but they changed parts of that, too.
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dishstaller
I really dislike change for the sake of change
TheRatPatrol
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
Jimbo
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
dishstaller
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Last reply · posted in Movie Talk
Might be worth a watch when it comes out. Looks like typical big corp against the little guy movie BUT....there is a reason this plot type is so oft repeated, it draws audiences.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-f9OGsKHd4
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dishstaller
BTW, I noticed right after I posted this that someone else had already mentioned it....sorry for the duplicate thread. Still looking forward to seeing the movie.
meStevo
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Last reply · posted in Movie Talk
If you're going try to read / listen to the book (can't recommend the audio book enough) before this comes out, I'd avoid trailers.

Trailer below, spoiling it to make sure you read the above bold message first. The book / audio book are fantastic. Go into this blind if you can IMO!




Kind of disappointed at how much they show. A lot still to see, but man, some good reveals in the book that are just served up here.
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meStevo
I've seen it twice. Can't recommend the audio book enough, Ray Porter's performance is amazing and there's so much more in the book than the movie.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
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Forgot to comment. I did watch when it first came out on MGM. I enjoyed it a lot. I think reading the book made it easier to watch. Several friends commented it was a little hard to follow.
TRG
TRG
"astrophage". I read the book but didn't see the film yet.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
That's what I will be watching this weekend.🤗
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Kindle book on sale for $2.99 today at Amazon.
dishstaller
.........there's so much more in the book than the movie.
I agree. That can go for pretty much any book vs movie. Back when I was single I would read any Stephen King or John Grisham book I could get my hands on. When you read a book you make up the scenes and characters in your mind.....the movie version always disappoints.
meStevo
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Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
A big win for the Patriots, and they are now 3-2.

Browns lose a close one with... The Jets. That is a classic Browns loss (granted, any loss is a classic one it seems). 49'ers, Vikings, and Chiefs remain undefeated. The AFC north have a three way tie at 3-2 for second place. :eek:
osu1991
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
After having experienced Gus Ferguson trying to call soccer games, I'm uncertain why NFL football analysts get hate. Even the "worst" of them are pretty good.
meStevo
Jalen Hurts out indefinitely as they treat and monitor a superficial blood clot in his leg.


View: https://x.com/RapSheet/status/2111074303185989663?s=20
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dishstaller
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I had quit watching this show years ago because I ended up more annoyed than entertained. Well......I'm STILL more annoyed than entertained. I DO find it interesting to see how things work behind the scenes at many businesses. What annoys me is how utterly out of touch CEOs are with the companies they run. At the end of almost every episode the head of the company is amazed at how hard the employees have to work and many times have to work around impossible guidelines set forth from headquarters.

I found this one interesting because the new CEO had big plans for this company, Muscle Maker Grill, and it looked like the stores were all pretty busy. Recent history hasn't been good to this company however. I bet the covid lockdowns were the real killer.


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Scott Greczkowski
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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White Wedding - Billy Idol
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White Christmas - Elvis Presley
dishstaller
Dirty White Boy - Foreigner
Bobby
Tickle Me (Dirty, Dirty Feeling) - Elvis Presley
dishstaller
Dirty Diana - Michael Jackson