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This post concerns the many irritating and judgmental posts by
Robert Heitner especially those directed to Ken this week.

Robert, you should read Wilts reply to Ken to see that there is
another type of class other than low. Since when did Robert Heitner
become the self appointed arbitrator of which posts are worthy and
which are not? Why don't you just give us a break and let people
post without you commenting. Contrary to what you must think, we are
not all anxiously awaiting your next witty(not) response to anybody
who might have a comment that's not gushing with praise for VOOM.

I thought Ken's post was very well written and informative. It was a
little long but it seemed that was necessary to convey his story. The
most distressing part was people like you responding and including
the total text of his post over and over again. To top that off you
continued a running wearisome dialog getting more caustic with each
post.

It's not for you to tell people to like VOOM or shut up. Neither
is it your prerogative to tell them to quit comparing to D* or cancel
VOOM and switch. We all LIKE VOOM or we would have already
canceled. However, the constant reboots, PQ burps and belches and
other irritations of a service that is not yet ready for primetime is
very annoying and we all have a right to inform them of our annoyance
as often as we choose. If you don't like it.... well.... then you
know how some of us feel about your posts.




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rkr0923
I agree, this is a "open" forum as far as I know.
kfried001
[VOOM] Re: Ken's post s and Roberts comments on them

Thanks charrasaqueado,
I did realize the post was long, but as you said it was necessary to
convey the entire story. One thing however, I did not complain about
the PQ, system reboots since I really am having no problems with
with the equipment anymore. You can be sure any outstanding
technical issues will get resolved by Wilt. He is a very hard
working person who you can trust to get the job done. The only thing
I was complaining about was getting ripped off $800 for four extra
receivers I ould not have purchased and VOOM not standing behind a
written promise made to me by a supervisor and being told that "oh
well, there is nothing we can do, he should have never told you
that". Well he did (and he is the best supervisor I know at VOOM),
and as soon has my moneyback gurantee was over and the $300 receiver
credit was used up, the billing department/corporate screwed me over.

My real reason for writing this that long post to the forum was to
help warn people to not trust anyone at VOOM (other than Wilt and
dragonldy_mom) even if you get something in writing because they
won't honor it. So with the DVR coming out, who knows what kind of
promises they will make to use. Whatever they say or promise to us
to make us purchase it will most likely change and not be honored. I
don't want anyone else to loose the amount of money I did. Some
people see it as bitching and crying, but that was never my
intention. I tried to deal with the company, but I got nowhere. My
only option is to sue them in small claims court where I will win,
but I hate to invest the time and shouldn't have too.

Thanks for understanding and sorry for the long post.

Ken



--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "charrasqueado" <mrsycamore@a...> wrote:
> This post concerns the many irritating and judgmental posts by
> Robert Heitner especially those directed to Ken this week.
>
> Robert, you should read Wilts reply to Ken to see that there is
> another type of class other than low. Since when did Robert

Heitner
> become the self appointed arbitrator of which posts are worthy and
> which are not? Why don't you just give us a break and let people
> post without you commenting. Contrary to what you must think, we

are
> not all anxiously awaiting your next witty(not) response to

anybody
> who might have a comment that's not gushing with praise for VOOM.
>
> I thought Ken's post was very well written and informative. It

was a
> little long but it seemed that was necessary to convey his story.

The
> most distressing part was people like you responding and including
> the total text of his post over and over again. To top that off

you
> continued a running wearisome dialog getting more caustic with

each
> post.
>
> It's not for you to tell people to like VOOM or shut up. Neither
> is it your prerogative to tell them to quit comparing to D* or

cancel
> VOOM and switch. We all LIKE VOOM or we would have already
> canceled. However, the constant reboots, PQ burps and belches and
> other irritations of a service that is not yet ready for primetime

is
> very annoying and we all have a right to inform them of our

annoyance
> as often as we choose. If you don't like it.... well.... then you
> know how some of us feel about your posts.




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kfried001
[VOOM] Re: Ken's post s and Roberts comments on them

Thanks charrasaqueado,
I did realize the post was long, but as you said it was necessary to
convey the entire story. One thing however, I did not complain about
the PQ, system reboots since I really am having no problems with
with the equipment anymore. You can be sure any outstanding
technical issues will get resolved by Wilt. He is a very hard
working person who you can trust to get the job done. The only thing
I was complaining about was getting ripped off $800 for four extra
receivers I ould not have purchased and VOOM not standing behind a
written promise made to me by a supervisor and being told that "oh
well, there is nothing we can do, he should have never told you
that". Well he did (and he is the best supervisor I know at VOOM),
and as soon has my moneyback gurantee was over and the $300 receiver
credit was used up, the billing department/corporate screwed me over.

My real reason for writing this that long post to the forum was to
help warn people to not trust anyone at VOOM (other than Wilt and
dragonldy_mom) even if you get something in writing because they
won't honor it. So with the DVR coming out, who knows what kind of
promises they will make to use. Whatever they say or promise to us
to make us purchase it will most likely change and not be honored. I
don't want anyone else to loose the amount of money I did. Some
people see it as bitching and crying, but that was never my
intention. I tried to deal with the company, but I got nowhere. My
only option is to sue them in small claims court where I will win,
but I hate to invest the time and shouldn't have too.

Thanks for understanding and sorry for the long post.

Ken



--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "charrasqueado" <mrsycamore@a...> wrote:
> This post concerns the many irritating and judgmental posts by
> Robert Heitner especially those directed to Ken this week.
>
> Robert, you should read Wilts reply to Ken to see that there is
> another type of class other than low. Since when did Robert

Heitner
> become the self appointed arbitrator of which posts are worthy and
> which are not? Why don't you just give us a break and let people
> post without you commenting. Contrary to what you must think, we

are
> not all anxiously awaiting your next witty(not) response to

anybody
> who might have a comment that's not gushing with praise for VOOM.
>
> I thought Ken's post was very well written and informative. It

was a
> little long but it seemed that was necessary to convey his story.

The
> most distressing part was people like you responding and including
> the total text of his post over and over again. To top that off

you
> continued a running wearisome dialog getting more caustic with

each
> post.
>
> It's not for you to tell people to like VOOM or shut up. Neither
> is it your prerogative to tell them to quit comparing to D* or

cancel
> VOOM and switch. We all LIKE VOOM or we would have already
> canceled. However, the constant reboots, PQ burps and belches and
> other irritations of a service that is not yet ready for primetime

is
> very annoying and we all have a right to inform them of our

annoyance
> as often as we choose. If you don't like it.... well.... then you
> know how some of us feel about your posts.




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kfried001
[VOOM] Re: Ken's post s and Roberts comments on them

You are 100% correct, but it was my cheese, $800 worth of it that
VOOM ate. ;-)

Ken

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girls),,,,,,
> Chill




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kfried001
[VOOM] Re: Ken's post s and Roberts comments on them

You are 100% correct, but it was my cheese, $800 worth of it that
VOOM ate. ;-)

Ken

--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, momust@a... wrote:
> Everyone needs to step back and take a breath. Its TV guys (and

girls),,,,,,
> Chill




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osu1991
Pub Member / Supporter
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
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osu1991
Finished the 2nd episode tonight. I'm really liking it so far.

Still hate weekly releases though, especially the way Disney and HBO do it waiting until 8pm to premiere it.
Foxbat
Apparently I'm not a big enough nerd🤓 since I did not read every Marvel Comic Book ever published. If I had, I might be comparing the comics' version of events compared to what's transpiring in "Visionquest". So, I am enjoying the series a lot, not weighed down by previous expectations, knowing only the Avengers MCU movies and the "Wandavision" / "Agatha All Along" TV series.

I found the Mr Know-it-All channel from his discussion about "Star Trek: Strange New Worlds" and he's been gleefully picking these episodes apart, referencing the Marvel comics from the 1939 on. Turns out A.I. has been around since before World War II, at least in the comics. (Robots before that, yes, yes.) This show is going back into the archives.
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Foxbat
I'm expecting the finale to basically bring Vision into play for the Doomsday movie next month.
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osu1991
annoying they went with single episodes for the last two after releasing two a week for the first 3 weeks
Foxbat
annoying they went with single episodes for the last two after releasing two a week for the first 3 weeks
I thought they were effectively releasing a longer episode 7 and 8 instead of shorter episodes 7 & 8 this week and 9 & 10 next week. It felt like they were packing more into this episode.

edit: But you're right, the run time of the first three pairs of episodes was 100 minutes on average. Episode 7 clocks in at 65 minutes. 😕
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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I Can't Wait - Nu Shooz
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Shooz - Styx
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Too Much Time on My Hands - Styx
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Time Has Come Today - The Chambers Brothers
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Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV General Forum
The following is from Reddit. -
View: https://www.reddit.com/r/DirectvStream/s/orzHBkmqQW


gemini.webp

There appears to be a new DIRECTV Gemini OTT box, the C81KW-650.

The FCC listing is partially available, and a Geekbench entry confirms it uses an Amlogic S905X5, a solid SoC for a set-top box.

I also see 4GB of RAM, and the manufacturer is SEI Robotics.

DIRECTV C81KW OTT Box - Android TV Guide

Ok found a picture of the Box too on Reddit:


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/DirectvStream/comments/1twlex0/comment/opzeqi1/
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Scott Greczkowski
I know a few people who have gotten one and I am told like most modern streaming boxes this one also has HDR on all the time.
Tom Speer
I know a few people who have gotten one and I am told like most modern streaming boxes this one also has HDR on all the time.
I only noticed that as a problem on TVs that handle HDR poorly. They don't have enough peak brightness or enough dimming zones. For instance, TCL makes three lines of TV, sort of like the old Sears model of Good, Better, Best. On my 4 or 5 year end low price model, HDR looked awful (My neighbor likes the TV now). The midrange model from the next model year ithat I have at my Lake home now looks pretty good in HDR all the time. The midrange TCL QM7 model from last year at my other home looks spectacular, as I remember. I haven't seen it for 6 months.

If I had a TV that does HDR poorly, I would configure the Gemini to disable all HDR.
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b4pjoe
I only noticed that as a problem on TVs that handle HDR poorly. They don't have enough peak brightness or enough dimming zones. For instance, TCL makes three lines of TV, sort of like the old Sears model of Good, Better, Best. On my 4 or 5 year end low price mode, HDR looked awful (My neighbor likes the TV now). The midrannge model from the next model year ithat I have at my Lake home now looks pretty good in HDR all the time. The midrange TCL QM7 model from last year at my other home looks spectacular, as I remember. I haven't seen it for 6 months.

If I had a TV that does HDR poorly, I would configure the Gemini to disble all HDR.
I agree with that. The 2 LGs that we have Gemini's on looks far better with HDR enabled then it does with HDR off.
R
I know a few people who have gotten one and I am told like most modern streaming boxes this one also has HDR on all the time.
That would be a deal-breaker for me. The Rokus default to having it on all the time but it's easy enough to change that to native. If the content is HDR it goes on. Otherwise, no.
R
I don't mind HDR being on as long as its adaptive. I don't need HDR on non-HDR content

Also, God only knows how much it'll cost to get this per month. 10 bucks a month for 3 TVs in my apartment is not worth it if I can just use my android boxes and appletv to watch
b4pjoe
I don't mind HDR being on as long as its adaptive. I don't need HDR on non-HDR content

Also, God only knows how much it'll cost to get this per month. 10 bucks a month for 3 TVs in my apartment is not worth it if I can just use my android boxes and appletv to watch
It is not adaptive. HDR is either always on or off. No in between. However with my Gemini on satellite everything looks much better with HDR on.
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Gary Toma
Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum
The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
​
National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
​
Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
​
Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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jamieh1
Now in the Hornets and Hurricanes markets we just get the TV promise screen. But Directv still charges sports fee I am assuming.
Luckily my DTV stream package doesn't have a rsn fee. Figure DTV that always says is the leader in sports would have come to an agreement by now.
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K
Now in the Hornets and Hurricanes markets we just get the TV promise screen. But Directv still charges sports fee I am assuming.
Greenville-New Bern is $11.99 for MASN (Orioles) and Nationals
Raleigh is $11.99 for MASN and Nationals
Charlotte is $12.99 for BravesVision, MASN, Nationals and Reds

The fee in NC also includes the higher in state rate they have to pay for ACCN. Down in SC the fee is $15.99 as they are also a SEC state.
I'm not sure if they're doing it with those teams, but in some markets they also use the fee to cover the additional cost they have to pay for independents and MyNet stations that picked up full season NHL and NBA rights.

If you go to the TVPromise site, you'll likely be able to get a credit for not getting the Hurricanes and additional Hornets games that air on WITN-D2

Figure DTV that always says is the leader in sports would have come to an agreement by now.
Part of the hold out might be the packaging and price for outer areas like how the Thunder needs sports pack for other states. Hopefully they are also pushing for a guarantee from the teams that they would require whoever wins their local broadcasting rights in 2028 to negotiate with MVPDs. Commercial distribution rights are probably a factor too.

I'm guessing they got a deep discount for the Clippers based on how long it took them to officially announce ClipperVision and their KTLA simulcasts after they were basically handed a multi-year draft death penalty.

The Predators and Pistons channels are using feeds supplied by Scripps Sports

The Heat likely depends on whoever they sign for the Fort Myers DMA, as there's no point in paying a high price for the Heat just for that DMA when WPLG is streaming it for free on their app and website for viewers in the Miami DMA, and they already carry the West Palm Beach station.
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The Heat likely depends on whoever they sign for the Fort Myers DMA, as there's no point in paying a high price for the Heat just for that DMA when WPLG is streaming it for free on their app and website for viewers in the Miami DMA, and they already carry the West Palm Beach station.
WINK-D3 (Weather) for Fort Myers

https://www.nba.com/heat/news/heat-...st-partnership-with-wink-in-southwest-florida
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DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for Nov 04 2026

Comparison of Transponder Data for Nov 04 2026 vs Oct 28 2026:


No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

Changes to the use of defined transponders:


2 Previously unused Transponders with current APG records::
Net 15 TID 12 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D12@103ca, TPN 13
Net 15 TID 17 Beam NAT + PR is a National Transponder on D15@103ca, TPN 18

Stream (PID) counts:

LIVE Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
Count​
Change​
Count​
Change​
4K​
4​
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HD​
266​
2​
1449​
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SD mpeg4​
144​
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194​
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SD mpeg2​
433​
-1​
​
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RB​
​
​
​
​
Audio​
89​
​
​
​
Push​
26​
​
​
​
Slate​
19​
​
1​
​
​
TEST Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
Count​
Change​
Count​
Change​
4K​
​
​
​
​
HD​
​
​
1​
​
SD mpeg4​
​
​
​
​
SD mpeg2​
​
​
​
​
RB​
​
​
​
​
Engr Work​
56​
18​
​
​
​


The PID count Excel workbook provides much more count detail.

Newly updated tables of Streams on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

More details of changes in individual channels will follow in the Weekly Analysis
and Gary Toma's Domestic TPN Map Excel files
Reshuffle setup ?
Weekly Analysis soon
Enjoy
DataDigesters
D
Weekly Analysis for 11/04/2026:
K
Prep for More TPN swaps

NewsMix -> ElectionHQ

MLBEI -> NBALP in the 740s

No sign of the additional CW affiliates that were added to stream a few weeks ago
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WINK-D3 (Weather) for Fort Myers
WINK-D3 Fort Myers is testing on the stream server
R
WINK-D3 Fort Myers is testing on the stream server
Could be for the Heat since they have the rights to that.

Its always a surprise to see DTV carry subchannels...
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ewindowman
Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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nelson61
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
Scott Greczkowski
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
Can't remember where or who I saw predict this. :D

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
Bruce
It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
Scott Greczkowski
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
Bruce
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.
Nebugeater
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.


Just a guess on my part but there may be some value to aquring to get all the retransmision agreements that are in place even though at some point they need to be renewed
Bruce
Bruce
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
If Musk really wants to buy Boost, he might get a great price once Dish Wireless is out of Chapter 11.

Boost just lost 182,000 subs in the 3rd quarter-

M
Is Dish like Iran in one way...they both will totally collapse by end of week :)
Foxbat
Other than the price, my experience with Boost is not that different than what I experienced with my years with Cricket. I will be curious to see what happens if SpaceX takes the reins.
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
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teachsac
Dang. That had to hurt. I would have not handled it that well. Surprised it wasn't brought up by Heff at the challenge.
dfergie
First rule - if you get a clue follow it immediately, 2nd - keep your stuff with you in a strange place, 3rd - pay attention to your ride... (pre first - don't go if you think you might not want to stay Rob)
teachsac
Loved the tribal🤣
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Happy with the outcome, he was annoying...