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Last reply Jul 18, 2008 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Cincinnati Locals in HD

Can anyone tell me why the Dish Network does not offer HD Locals for the Cincinnati area? I know Direct TV has local HD service. Thanks,...

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TNGTony

Mar 21, 2008

I'll give you two reasons: WLWT and WKRC.

Both these channels will not allow Dish to carry the channel without major consessions including carrying the secondary channels. WKRC DT2 is the CinCW and WLWT is has NBC Weather Plus.

I also think that WCPO which is owned by Hearst wants it secondary channel up and I think Hearst wants something else too, but I haven't been able to confirm that.

Finally WXIX 19 for a while had "The Tube" as its DT2 and it wanted that channel carried as well.

The local channels, charged with serving the public in this are are the main obstacle to HD channels in this area via Dish. Cincinnati has been passed over twice in the last 15 months for HD locals.

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Tony

TNGTony

Mar 21, 2008

I'd love to have the ability to record 3 HD local channels at once.

The problem is not local. The problem is with the owners of the stations.

BTW DirecTV does carry the CinCW. They dropped WBQC like a hot potato when UPN disappeared and picked up the local CW at the same time. I don't know what their deal with Hearst includes but they do carry "Real Women" and Dish doesn't.

BTW WCPO is owned by Scripps, not Hearst. Sorry for the mistake. Scripps owns DIY and HGTV. Hearst owns WLWT, Lifetime, LMN and Real Women. WKRC is owned by Clear Channel and they own half the broadcasting world.

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Tony

HDinCincy

Jul 15, 2008

TNGTony said:
I'll give you two reasons: WLWT and WKRC.

Both these channels will not allow Dish to carry the channel without major consessions including carrying the secondary channels. WKRC DT2 is the CinCW and WLWT is has NBC Weather Plus.

I also think that WCPO which is owned by Hearst wants it secondary channel up and I think Hearst wants something else too, but I haven't been able to confirm that.

Finally WXIX 19 for a while had "The Tube" as its DT2 and it wanted that channel carried as well.

The local channels, charged with serving the public in this are are the main obstacle to HD channels in this area via Dish. Cincinnati has been passed over twice in the last 15 months for HD locals.

See ya
Tony

That is the reason I switched to D* almost a year ago. I now have all the locals AND CinCW but D* doesn't have WLWT's 5-2. I may have been happy with my OTA, but as someone else noted WCPO is a VHF digital and I cannot get it reliably. I seems ridiculous that they are the ONLY VHF digital in Cincy. Oh, well, it's E* loss. D* hardware is not quite as nice but it's been worth it.

mixjock

Jul 17, 2008

TNGTony said:
I'll give you two reasons: WLWT and WKRC.

Both these channels will not allow Dish to carry the channel without major consessions including carrying the secondary channels. WKRC DT2 is the CinCW and WLWT is has NBC Weather Plus.

I also think that WCPO which is owned by Hearst wants it secondary channel up and I think Hearst wants something else too, but I haven't been able to confirm that.

Finally WXIX 19 for a while had "The Tube" as its DT2 and it wanted that channel carried as well.

The local channels, charged with serving the public in this are are the main obstacle to HD channels in this area via Dish. Cincinnati has been passed over twice in the last 15 months for HD locals.

See ya
Tony

WCPO is owned by Scripps. WLWT is owned by Hearst. WKRC was sold by Clear Channel to NewportTV who then cut over 10% of the staff.

TNGTony

Jul 18, 2008

Thanks

I ALWAYS make the same mistake and get the two mixed up (5 and 9). Yes I knew that 9 was owned by scripps and 5 by Hearst! Next time I type out the same message I bet I will make the same mistake again!

BTW, I don't know if anyone remembers when Cincinnati SD locals were put up on Dish... 5 (NBC) was not with the other three at launch! Hearst was holding out for LMN to be added to Dish's line-up.

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Tony

wolfjc

Jul 18, 2008

TNGTony said:
I'd love to have the ability to record 3 HD local channels at once.

The problem is not local. The problem is with the owners of the stations.

B
BTW WCPO is owned by Scripps, not Hearst. Sorry for the mistake. Scripps owns DIY and HGTV. Hearst owns WLWT, Lifetime, LMN and Real Women. WKRC is owned by Clear Channel and they own half the broadcasting world.

See ya
Tony

Clear Channel no longer owns WKRC TV they had to sell it.
I can't remember why I think it has to do with how many stations you can own at one time.

mixjock

Jul 18, 2008

wolfjc said:
Clear Channel no longer owns WKRC TV they had to sell it.
I can't remember why I think it has to do with how many stations you can own at one time.

Had nothing to do with that per se but the business plan changed when they went private and divsted most if not all of their television stations to focus on radio. However due to the same merger agreement they will have to divest either 700 WLW & Kiss 107 or 92.5 the Fox and Radio 94.1. Rumors of potential buyers were Tribune, Bonneville, & The Reds.

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reubenray

Last reply Today at 10:36 AM · posted in Computers and Gadgets

Laptop Shutting Off When On Battery?

Lately my eight year old Dell laptop has been shutting off even when I have a full battery. I have had to keep it plugged up all the time to keep this from happening. Any idea what is causing this? I replaced the battery about three years ago.

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arlo

Today at 10:09 AM

A recalibration might be needed. Even if it shows full, the individual cells may have become unbalaced. And the BMS chip in the battery reports false information to the pc.
Try this. Start it up in the bios/uefi and leave it there until the battery dies and it shuts off.
It might just keep running longer than in Windows. Or run for a short while and shut off.
If it's the first case. Probably just needs a balancing. If the latter, the pack might just be dead.
Not throwing stones but perhaps just a cheaply constructed battery with substandard cells. Could be.

Patience. Keep restarting it in bios/uefi until it won't fire up anymore.
Then plug the charger in and let it complete a full charge. And see what happens. If it's better.
Do the same thing one more time. Run it until it dies dead-dead. Then just let it charge, pc shut off.
When charged, it might be better. It might not be.

There are bench jigs that read the actual BMS and override it to let a tech manually monitor and charge the separate packs. They can also reset any "time bombs" in it that cause an otherwise good pack to show bad.
Maybe Santa will be good to me some year.

You might just need a new battery. Maybe the PC power management chip is going. A Dell common thing.
Leaving a laptop plugged in with a full battery is known to reduce the life. Asus for one recommends that you don't leave the charger plugged in all of the time even when shut down. And setting Windows to charge the battery to 85% instead of 100% increases life.
That's all I got.

dishstaller

Today at 10:36 AM

arlo said:
That's all I got.

That was quite enough....I definitely learned something from your post. Thanks

TRG

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Last reply Today at 10:27 AM · posted in Computers and Gadgets

Starlink Router question

I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

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b4pjoe

Saturday at 2:12 PM

TRG said:
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

If you can't get into the router to reserve an IP address just don't use DHCP on the device that needs connected and assign it to a specific IP address in the network settings.

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HipKat

Saturday at 11:07 PM

TRG said:
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

They are not. Your best bet is to set up a third-party router, attached to the Starlink for your server, that you can get into, like a Linksys, etc

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Foxbat

Sunday at 12:44 AM

TRG said:
…it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

The Starlink V5 Install Kit I just got comes with the Mini Router. It is pretty limited in what it can do. For example, it can provide only one IP subnet at a time, no Guest Network, but it does support the pass-thru to a third-party Router. You can also split the Wi-Fi into separate 5 GHz & 2.4 GHz SSIDs to help some IoT devices that don't support 5 GHz bands to work.

The larger Starlink Router that still comes with the V4 Kit does support a Guest Network with separate IPv4 Subnet, but it's $120 from Starlink. And it still won't do DHCP Reservations.

harshness

Sunday at 11:46 AM

If you can restrict the DHCP address space to assign addresses to one end of the subnet (i.e. x.x.x.50+), you can manually assign the IP address on pretty much any operating system. This is a default behavior on several popular routers. As the Router Mini only supports 235 devices, I expect that's already done.

Another option is to use a router that supports PoE to power the antenna. This article discusses that option (under PoE Power heading):

Starlink V5 Is Here: What RVers Need to Know

Overview of the new Starlink V5 model along with comparison to the previous V4 model along with a recommended setup for mobile internet users.

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Foxbat

Today at 10:27 AM

Now that I've had the v5 kit with the Mini Router, it's not as bad as I first thought. Yes, no DHCP reservations, but you can set up multiple SSIDs that have separate IPv4 subnets, and like the big brother, you can select from 192.168.x.0/24 or 10.x.0.0/16 (where "x" is 1-4).

You can also split a subnet and have different SSIDs for the 5 GHz and 2.4 GHz channels to handle some IoT devices. I haven't discovered what subnet the 2nd NIC on the router assigns, I'm guessing it's the first subnet.

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Last reply Today at 10:27 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

I think we could all use a laugh - Rodney Dangerfield on Carson

Good...simple humor. Enjoy

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E92AtfTLge4

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Jimbo

Today at 12:37 AM

Not Rodney, but a laugh ...

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dishstaller

Today at 10:27 AM

Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.

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Last reply Today at 10:17 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

At least 64 dead in Spanish passenger train collision

Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

At Least 64 Dead After Two High-Speed Trains Collide In Spain | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

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Jimbo

Yesterday at 11:24 AM

dishstaller said:
Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

At Least 64 Dead After Two High-Speed Trains Collide In Spain | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

They will have to look at the switching sections to determine WHY 2 trains were on the same track ... at the same time.

dishstaller

Today at 10:17 AM

Thought this article might be of interest to some of you who might travel via train.

The safest seat to sit on in a train

Safety experts have shared top tips on train safety after a fatal railway crash in Spain killed 69 people, including where the safest place is in an emergency.

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