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glen4cindy
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I have been thinking about how I am going to install all of the wiring and switches and such for the T90 and have come to the conclusion that it would probably be better to wire each dual LNB into the basement, and put all the switches in the basement.

I would bury the wires in a PVC or ABS pipe to provide protection and would also put a string into the pipe for future wiring and replacements. I know this would mean bringing 16 wires to begin with into the house in 1 pipe, but, it is the only way I can see to avoid a rats nest of wires at the dish. I don't have a table to put it under like Ice has, and my wife is not going to like a mess of wires and switches at the dish.

Will be about 10 feet from dish to house.

What do you think?
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Anole
alternatives

The alternative is some sort of outdoor enclosure, perhaps weather proof (or at least weather resistant).

Or, you might fabricate something which is the logical equivalent to Ice's table. ;)
Perhaps a 1x6 running behind the dish, with the switches on the bottom of it.?

If you do come up with any such plan, it'll save a lot on cable. :)
In the end, the 10 foot run to the house doesn't sound that bad...
... but get a darned big pipe... or two !

edit: wait a minute!
How many receivers were you going to support in the house?
Four, perhaps?
That'd be four cables from dish to house if the switches were outside...
...something to think about!
USDownlink
... but get a darned big pipe... or two !
I was curious, so I worked it out: Taking RG6 diameter as .332", and a packing efficiency of around 80% (forget what the exact number is, but it's likely somewhere in that area), 16 cables will fit (tightly) in a 1.45" ID conduit. Not so bad.
M
edit: wait a minute!
How many receivers were you going to support in the house?
Four, perhaps?
That'd be four cables from dish to house if the switches were outside...
...something to think about!

yep. Good point. I have 8 lines coming in to the house
-motorized
-fixed G10 in basement
-3 from T90
-StarChoice
-Dish 811
-OTA

and you can clean the cabling up too to make it nice
glen4cindy
The alternative is some sort of outdoor enclosure, perhaps weather proof (or at least weather resistant).

Or, you might fabricate something which is the logical equivalent to Ice's table. ;)
Perhaps a 1x6 running behind the dish, with the switches on the bottom of it.?

If you do come up with any such plan, it'll save a lot on cable. :)
In the end, the 10 foot run to the house doesn't sound that bad...
... but get a darned big pipe... or two !

edit: wait a minute!
How many receivers were you going to support in the house?
Four, perhaps?
That'd be four cables from dish to house if the switches were outside...
...something to think about!

I'm going to start with 3 receivers with the possibility of a forth sometime in the future.

One of the things I was trying to avoid other than a virtual rats nest of wires is exposing the switches to rain, snow, extreme cold and extreme heat. I'd hate to end up with switches full of water like I did with my last switch. I just won an EBay auction for Zinwell 4x4's paid .99 each, but, $10 shipping! so, I want those switches to last! I don't think any sort of outdoor enclosure that will be big enough for 7 switches total would work out very well. I want things to be neatly organized so I can switch things up if need be in the future. With all that wiring and the switches jammed into some sort of enclosure, I think it would be difficult. When they built my house, they ran all the coax wires outside to a house box. Getting the necessary splitters and such is a real cram job! Wanted to avoid that with the T90.

I'm going to leave my motorized up for now so I can at least get 123 and 119, I'll just have to switch cables in the house at the receiver. Don't have any other way to do it right now, and the wire is already there so, why not.

Thanks for the ideas.

16 cables, approx 10 feet each is only 160 feet, give or take so that really isn't much wire. With 8 LNB's I'm sure there is going to be a fair amount of mess to start with. I plan to leave service loops in each wire and use good qulaity connectors and the like.

Another question I had was looking from behind the dish, is the left most LNB the western most satellite? I'm going to have to really take care of which LNB feeds to which switch port and keep track of 22kHz on and off with each LNB. I plan to do what Ice said and run port 1 from 1st multiswitch to the DiSEqC switch port 1 and so on and so forth.
M
Another question I had was looking from behind the dish, is the left most LNB the western most satellite?

correct

when working with multiple LNB"s they get set up backwards from how they are in the sky
rv1pop
I was curious, so I worked it out: Taking RG6 diameter as .332", and a packing efficiency of around 80% (forget what the exact number is, but it's likely somewhere in that area), 16 cables will fit (tightly) in a 1.45" ID conduit. Not so bad.

As I figure the pipe size a 3" pipe would be a good size! Cramming doesn't work with co-ax, or for pulling in more wires. A 12X12X6" PVC J-box on top on a 3" pipe (or 2) run into the basement, using long sweeps (90* elbows) would give you room and counting the elimination of frustration, the value is worth the cost! Put 1/2" 45* elbows into the sides of the J-box to make entrance heads - drip loops etc. 2 or 3 cables through each 2" long 45* el would be OK.

That is my plan, and I am probably going to go with dual output (H/V) lnbf's so will have lots of cable to run.

ENJOY!
POP
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Detroit Rock City - KISS
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We Built This City - Jefferson Starship
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Built For Comfort - Omar & the Howlers
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On a Bicycle Built for Two [originally "Daisy Bell"] - Nat King Cole
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The House That Built Me - Miranda Lambert
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Season 2 order already in hand:

'Star Trek: Starfleet Academy' Renewed for Season 2, Tatiana Maslany to Guest Star in Season 1

I've not been optimistic about this show based on what I've read so far. Seems to be aimed at a younger audience. Interesting though that Tatiana Maslany will have some sort of role.
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I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.
K
I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.
Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
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Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
Yeah, the foot stuff was just nasty. I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less. Funny, I love being shoe less at home and never wear shoes indoors in my home for long, but seeing her laying on all her furniture with her bare feet hanging out just kind of grossed me out.
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I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less.
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
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MikeD-C05
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure. So walking around the station like she did she would get stuff on her feet. I am sure the robot vacuum is still going to miss stuff, with all those different alien species running around there.
harshness
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure.
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.
MikeD-C05
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.
I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that. ;)
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I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that. ;)
Stay out of my office. I rarely have shoes or socks on in the office. My office and business is at home though :clapping
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I just thought her behavior, including the bare feet thing, was disrespectful to her position.
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I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes.
That is your right.

I couldn't buy hiding behind the dirty-feet argument.
dfergie
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Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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harshness
I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.
harshness
In Oregon, our premium boat gas is about a dollar more than our corn premium. Several stations only offer the non-corn premium grade.
Bobby
Regular$5.899​
Premium$6.299​
Diesel$7.999​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
dishstaller
Diesel is all over the place around here. Saw it yesterday from $5.37 to $6.17...not sure what the obsession was with ending in 7
dfergie
$4.09 - $4.29, real gas $4.69...
harshness
I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.
It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.
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DIRECTV Stream/Internet added Ch 4105 SportsGrid
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Now live:
4101 Yahoo! Sports Network
4121 DP World Tour
4195 F1 Channel
4196 MotoGP Channel
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Now live:
4275 Law & Crime
4364 Military Makeover Channel
K
Game Show Central is now live on channel 4342
K
Now live:
4101 Yahoo! Sports Network
4121 DP World Tour
4195 F1 Channel
4196 MotoGP Channel
It only took them 41 days to announce it
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Supporting Founder
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Since the Reds have there thread we should too!

Last watched Nine inch Nails
Next 3:10 to Yuma
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View: https://youtu.be/9j3vxhzM8MY?is=Rs1cY1FQAiRWi87i


Come September (1961)
Rock Hudson and Gina Lollobrigida with Sandra Dee and Bobby Darin
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1791758462355.webp


Simple, charming. Entire premise is quite silly but Cary Grant carries it across the line in good fashion.
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Last: The Social Reckoning. Spoiler alert, they make Zuck look like a...
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Since it was already "paid" for, I spent the two hours of my time watching the John Cena action movie on Apple TV, "Matchbox The Movie" even though the reviews were brutal. It was better than I expected, so I didn't feel like I had wasted an afternoon watching it. But it felt like another "Reacher"/"Neghley"/"Mission: Impossible"/"Fast & Furious" crash and blow stuff up with lots of automatic gunfire mixed in movie featuring covert CIA operatives.

I don't think we'll get a follow-up movie from this. I expect Mattel will have other toy lines to exploit.
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Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum
The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
​
National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
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Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
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Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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PISTONS and THUNDER are finally testing on the stream server. PISTONS is showing the Ion/Scripps Sports promo loop filler that their NHL and WNBA feeds have, THUNDER has a "You are watching Thunder+" slate

The Clippers still haven't officially announced their TV plans beyond 10 simulcasts on KTLA, but the NBA's FAQ for ClipperVision is now live. The CLIPPERS feed is currently showing a loop of their Hawaii preseason game.

The Heat still haven't announced their West Palm Beach or Fort Myers affiliates. Since WPLG is streaming the games for free via their app, I doubt we'll be seeing the return of WPLG on stream.

So far nothing testing for the Bucks, Magic, Hawks or Hornets.
K
The Heat still haven't announced their West Palm Beach or Fort Myers affiliates. Since WPLG is streaming the games for free via their app, I doubt we'll be seeing the return of WPLG on stream.
West Palm Beach is getting it on WTCN-CD/43 MNT. Still nothing for Fort Myers


Also, the Thunder's deal for KSBI/52 OKC and KQCW/19 Tulsa will be via a special cable and DIRECTV only feed of those stations. OTA viewers and Dish customers will be limited to 10 games.
dtv757
Thanks for the updates on CW norfolk
Hopefully comes to sat soon!!
dtv757
Not seeing 44 (WVBT-DT/44 CW Norfolk ) on my D* app for firestick
K
It's only available for streaming customers, they still haven't added that batch of CW stations to satellite.

Even if it was, satellite customers still can't stream their CW affiliates via the app, just the Big 4, select PBS stations and some independents (mainly the ones that have full season NHL/NBA rights)
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WCWW/25 CW South Bend and WBKP/5 CW Marquette are now testing on the stream server. These are both already available on satellite.

Now live in the satellite guide:
663-2 PISTONS
675 THUNDER
693 CLIPPERS
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.

As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
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CFB, Notre Dame at BYU, Saturday 10-27, 4:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.
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NASCAR, Freeway Insurance 500, Sunday 10-18, 12PM PDT, Channel 148-04.
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CFB, Ohio State at Indiana, Saturday 10-17, 9AM PDT, Channel 148-01.
CFB, Arizona State at Texas Tech, Saturday 10-17, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
Bobby
CFB, Ole Miss at Texas, Saturday 10-24, 4:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.
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CFB, Indiana at Michigan, Saturday 10-24, 9AM PDT, Channel 148-01.
CFB, BYU at UCF, Saturday 10-24, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-01.