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I've just about had it with Dish unless someone can help me figure out what the problem is. I am now on my third 622 and this one is having the same problem that the last two had. For no apparent reason, after a random amount of time--with one unit it was a day, with this one it's been three weeks--the 622 suddenly stops receiving a signal and continually tries to reboot itself. My screen will just say no signal on it and you can hear what must be either the hard drive or the fan continually whirring. At some points I have no lights on the box, at others just the green TV light, and at others all of the lights will go on for a split second. Occasionally it will actually acquire the satellite and the TV will come back on but then it might last a few minutes or an hour before it suddenly goes back to no signal.

I have been on the phone with Dish tech support for hours and they have been unable to diagnose or fix the problem. After sending me two refurb units they finally sent a technician to the house who gave me a new 622 and told me it would be fine. He was right--for three weeks this one was fine and then it happened again last night. It's still out this morning.

I got on the phone with Dish again last night and was told they would send another technician this week with yet another 622. I insisted that they send the technician with a 722 instead, hoping that will solve the problem, and they tried to charge me the full$100, which I find outrageous since I've had three bad pieces of equipment from them in a row. Why should I have to pay for equipment that actually works?! After arguing and threatening to cancel my service they finally agreed to give me half off, so I'm paying $50 for the 722 even though I have no idea if I will have the same problem with that one too.

I've been trying to think of what else can be the cause besides faulty equipment. Could there be a problem with my electrical power? I've tried plugging into both the wall and a surge protector but it doesn't make a difference. I've tried unplugging it for long periods and leaving it plugged in. I've tried extention cords to another outlet and no difference. I thought it might be the rain, which we had last night, but the problem remains when it's dry. I thought it might be either the phone line or the dish itself but the last techinician said no. I even considered that it might be the paint fumes in the house because we just painted but that makes no sense and doesn't explain why the last two units died.

Is it possible to have three units in a row with the same bizarre problem? If this 722 doesn't stay on I'm thinking of going back to DirecTV, which I used to have before Dish and HD, but who's to say I won't have the same problem there if it's NOT the receivers causing the problem but something external? And then there's always cable (unfortunately FIOS isn't in my area yet).

Does ANYBODY have a clue what's going on here and how I might be able to fix it? Or am I just having an incredible streak of bad luck with these receivers? Does anyone know if DirecTV receivers are as flaky as the DIsh ones? I love Dish when it works but this is getting silly.
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highdefjeff
The sound that you describe sounds normal for the unit. There is an audible sound from a normally functioning unit. The burnt rubber smell doesn't sound normal, though.

It appears that many of the 722's have an issue running too hot. A cooling fan would be a great idea. Here's a thread regarding coolers:

http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-hd...age-622-temperature-thread-your-s-hot-25.html

charlesrshell is up on this one. He could provide insight if the thread doesn't do it.

Glad it's working...how's your picture quality?
U
The sound that you describe sounds normal for the unit. There is an audible sound from a normally functioning unit. The burnt rubber smell doesn't sound normal, though.

It appears that many of the 722's have an issue running too hot. A cooling fan would be a great idea. Here's a thread regarding coolers:

http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-hd...age-622-temperature-thread-your-s-hot-25.html

charlesrshell is up on this one. He could provide insight if the thread doesn't do it.

Glad it's working...how's your picture quality?


I just ordered a cooling fan from Amazon. I did check the temperatures being generated by the unit and it reported a high of 134, low of 80 and average 96, which seems in line with what others are reporting here. As for the quality, I wish I could say it's exactly where I'd like it to be but my wife immediately noticed it didn't seem as sharp as it was with the 622 and after a few hours of viewing I have to agree with her. I noticed sharper quality coming from the antenna I used while the 622 was lying dead (although that only delivered a few channels that didn't break up constantly). I have a Samsung 40" LCD and generally the quality has been good to great but never exceptional; the blacks in particular have always been horribly fuzzy no matter what I do to the settings. In any case I'm keeping my fingers crossed. If the smell remains by Monday I'll be on the phone again but as of now I'm attributing it to this being a brand new unit working outs its kinks.
highdefjeff
Better check settings and enhancements on the TV and the receiver.

Do's & Don'ts - How to get the best HDTV picture quality.
treiher
Wow, just stumbled onto this thread. For those of you speculating a 722 might offer more reliability, I have 722 unit #4 on its way right now. Very similar symptoms on the last two as being described here. I have spontaneous reboots which get more frequent until finally the unit will not boot up period. The first 722 had a different problem, the audio dropped out on all HD channels. Dish tech support is now telling me I've got a bad surge protector and told me to plug this one directly into the wall. Sounds simplistic and a bit of a stretch, but I will give it a try, but I have a feeling they have a quality problem, and yes, you can get unlucky.
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In case anyone is still keeping up with this thread, since I started it here is an update. I've now had my 722 for two weeks without any problems.I don't know if that means I'm home free (my last 622 lasted three weeks) but so far so good. Just FYI, I combined various bits of advice from this forum and the installers (who admitted that they've seen a lot of units reboot spontaneously and they've also been told it's a software problem). First, although different Dish reps told me to use a surge protector and to plug directly into the wall, I went with the wall. I was also told that I had plenty of ventilation on both sides but I left even more. Thirdly I bought a fan that sits on top of the unit and sucks out the hot air. It's definitely cooler to the touch. I don't know if any of those steps have made a difference (I guess I'll find out if this one dies on me--or doesn't). So far we've had one surge, which turned out to be citywide, and the unite stayed on, and I also had one "Acquiring satellite" during a show, which lasted second and then went back to the show. If I have any further updates I'll report back.
highdefjeff
Thank you for the update! Without the updates we don't always know when or if it got fixed, or what may help the next person. Thanks again...hope you've got it fixed now!
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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RIP dude. Always liked his music. He was 83


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This video was put up shortly after I was able to take my family out to Yosemite in 2011. No AI.


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JSheridan
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I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.
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MikeD-C05
I don't know why DISH doesn't just start a streaming version of DISH and then if you can't see the western arc you go with streaming versions and then they could keep customers if they had good internet speeds. I mean Sling TV could be changed to Streaming DISH TV if they wanted since both companies are under Echostar. Then you would still be able to use your ota antenna with Air TV devices like I do with Air TV Anywhere with 4 ota tuners.
Scott Greczkowski
I don't know why DISH doesn't just start a streaming version of DISH
I have the same wish.
B
I have the same wish.
Why?
A lot of people do not have fast internet.
That is why they use satellite
Scott Greczkowski
Why?
A lot of people do not have fast internet.
That is why they use satellite
They keep the satellite service too. But have. Full streaming version of dish. As sling tv sucks eggs.
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As sling tv sucks eggs.

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NYDutch
Why?
A lot of people do not have fast internet.
That is why they use satellite
DISH will happily sell them a Starlink system and service.
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Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink
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Foxbat
Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink
Because he didn't have a fleet of reusable rockets. Starlink works because SpaceX is able to launch hundreds (thousands?) of their Starlink satellites for what a single geostationary Internet satellite costs to build and launch on a disposable launcher.
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But how is it reusable if it's disposable
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Love this guy's channel. Looks like Walmart has thrown in the towel when it comes to conventional car batteries.

I bought a new AGM battery from Walmart about a year ago, it is already needing replacing. I thought about just buying a regular battery but from what I've read, that might not be a smart move. Might check my Forscan program and see if I can change the battery type from AGM.


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harshness
When you need a battery, you need a battery.

If you can wait, new technologies are on the not-too-distant horizon.

You're probably doing something wrong if you're only getting a year out of an AGM battery. Heat and infrequent charging both significantly reduce lifetime.
dishstaller
You're probably doing something wrong if you're only getting a year out of an AGM battery. Heat and infrequent charging both significantly reduce lifetime.
Huh? How can I be doing something wrong.....I took out the original battery, that was 6 yrs old and put in a new one.....kinda hard to screw that up. I figure it was just a bad battery....it happens.


The biggest takeaway I got from this video was the Walmart batteries only had something like 85% of battery life left even though they were brand NEW. The ones from O'Reilly all tested 100% of life left.
Jimbo
Huh? How can I be doing something wrong.....I took out the original battery, that was 6 yrs old and put in a new one.....kinda hard to screw that up. I figure it was just a bad battery....it happens.


The biggest takeaway I got from this video was the Walmart batteries only had something like 85% of battery life left even though they were brand NEW. The ones from O'Reilly all tested 100% of life left.
And the Walmart ones mostly had very little warranty.

My last AGM (using now) I got from O Rielly's, its the Super Start ... I got the Platnium, they had several to choose from.
T
He sounds like he's trying to sell me a pocket hose.

I just had to replace a car battery this week and thought I'd look into LiFePo4. Amazon has plenty of them, but all have top posts and only one 'also' has side connections (Group 75).Then I read that they're really lousy in the cold. So, an AGM, but again, almost nothing with side terminals instead of top. In researching that, I read that most mfrs in recent years have dropped side terminals and gone back to the old top posts, which is surprising to me since those are more corrosion-prone, cause the battery to need more space and are generally more hazardous. Finally I just threw up my hands and bought a regular lead-acid at Sam's Club. They had a Group 75 "Duracell" with side terminals only. It was virtually the only such battery with side posts on their shelves
arlo
Had a Die Hard in my folks cellar for over 6 years. Pulled it out, slapped it on a charger for a day. Put it in my 'Cuda and drove it around for a week of my vacation. Next year, the same. But my dad kept it topped off for me.It was a mid 80's battery in early 1990.

Flooded acid batteries like a float voltage of around 13.5-13.8 voltage.
AGM needs a float of 14.2 volts. So if you slap an AGM in where a flooded was. It never gets a full charge.
"Why do they die so fast?" Question answered. There are folks who sell voltage regulators for alternators that are designed to boost float voltage for AGM batteries.
The other way around? Flooded will gas-off a little at 14.2 volts. But seems to tolerate it pretty good.

Lithium car/bike/atv batteries. After 3 batteries in my Harley. The OEM flooded and two AGM's (before the 14.2 volt float requirement to let them live was learned). I bought a lithium for it. 4 year, no gripe warranty after having it tested by an approved store.
The thing started like Thor himself sent a bolt from the sky. Except......try to start it around freezing? Nope. Needed a heating pad.
And I usually like to park it around events in the evening with the parking light on. Looks cool like that.
We could traipse around for a few hours no worries. Hop on, fire it up, and go putt around.
Lithium? A Dakota Lithium at least. The BMS shuts it right down if it discharges below <something>.
Come back. Parking lights off. Won't start. And you know the rest. But it lasted 6 years. A lot better than 'new every two'. And the fact that powersports batteries are warranted for six, maybe nine months. Ludicrous.

I called Noco. Asked all of the right questions. Great warranty. Save some bucks ordering directly, faster service that the wally world alternative.
They addressed (or claimed over the phone) that the shut down was addressed. Sure. The BMS keeps it form being damaged. But if it is shut down because it does become low. Shut down any load (key on, parking or headlights left on) for 10-15 minutes and you get a second try to start your rig. Not a bad thing if it really works. Right?!

Exide, Interstate? Be very afraid. They ain't what they used to be. In Florida my '70 Cutlass had an Interstate (early 90') that lasted 6 years until it dropped its plates at an intersection and boiled over. In Florida, mind you. The last Interstate.....done in 2. Guys down there would suck out the acid and put water in shortly before the warranty ran out. Make it to the auto parts, get them tested. And get a new one pro rated. No more pro rating.
You can't beat an Odyssey. Napa, AC Deco (the better ones). Yup.
The mom and pop Car Quest only sells Die Hard. For a reason, the old man says. So they convinced that a Die HArd Platinum was the hot ticket for me. l will see. Stand by!

You can't cut Mr. Project Farm down. He does great tests of all sorts of things. Not sponsored and pressured to slap a little sugar on his comparisons and reviews. Compared to the Brits and Aussies with their constant overzealous and same sounding (Dave from EEVblog) rant. I like P-Farm a lot. Of course I like AvE (Boltr) too.
Reminds me to beware when wearing shorts around the garage vice.


Opinions may vary.
harshness
And the Walmart ones mostly had very little warranty.
The days of the 84-month warranty appear long gone, regardless of brand or where you acquired it. Warranties tend to be shorter, with much greater dependence on quick prorating.

The big problem for lead-acid batteries (whether flooded or AGM) is that the US no longer produces lead (the last smelter closed in 2013) and must import it.

Recycling covers a good chunk of the need (~70%), but it isn't free.
EarDemon
I've always got regular OEM Ford Motorcraft batteries from the dealership and have never really had an issue. On my old Lincoln Aviator (the SUV from the early 00s, not the CUV of today), I had some phantom drain and went though a few batteries, but that was an anomaly and with the standard warranty I got free replacements. Taking the Aviator out of the picture, I've bought two batteries in my 24 years of driving. One battery replacement in my Mountaineer, one in my Navigator. But I probably would have had another one had I kept it around longer. Didn't have the Bronco long enough, and so far still on the factory battery for my Expedition.

I run more than the average bear. Dash cam, two radar detectors (yes, I'm aware that can be problematic when using simultaneously), laser jammers and a police scanner. I'm in Buffalo, 90 degree summers and 0 degree winters. Once in a while in the dead of winter I'll get an alert from the Ford app saying remote features have been disabled to conserve battery, but it starts right up.
dishstaller
I run more than the average bear. Dash cam, two radar detectors (yes, I'm aware that can be problematic when using simultaneously), laser jammers and a police scanner.
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Ramy
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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College Football Playoff bracket, schedule, scores, rankings ...

The 2025–26 College Football Playoff concluded with the Indiana Hoosiers winning the national championship by defeating the Miami Hurricanes 27–21. [1, 2, 3]

Playoff Results Summary
The 12-team playoff bracket featured the following key results across each round: [1]
    • First Round: Alabama defeated Oklahoma (34–24), Miami (Fla.) beat Texas A&M (10–3), Ole Miss topped Tulane (41–10), and Oregon defeated James Madison (51–34) at higher-seeded campus sites.
    • Quarterfinals: Miami (Fla.) upset Ohio State (24–14), Oregon shut out Texas Tech (23–0), top-ranked Indiana rolled past Alabama (38–3), and Ole Miss edged Georgia (39–34) across the New Year's Six bowls.
    • Semifinals: Miami (Fla.) advanced past Ole Miss (31–27) in the Peach Bowl, while Indiana dominant-defeated Oregon (56–22) in the Fiesta Bowl.
    • National Championship: Indiana secured the title with a 27–21 victory over Miami (Fla.) at Hard Rock Stadium. [1, 2, 3, 4]
Unfortunately, there was not rankings listed in this summary
AZ.
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And no teams deserve a bye! Injuries are the largest part of the game that you cant practice for them. Any team can suffer the worst injury at any position on any play. No favorites.
Jimbo
And no teams deserve a bye! Injuries are the largest part of the game that you cant practice for them. Any team can suffer the worst injury at any position on any play. No favorites.
I think they are actually discussing the Top 8 get a Bye this time, if they go to 24.
Then again, I heard something about Play in games for the 16-24 teams ...

Nothing is official yet, so lots of moving parts ...

Can't wait, lets do 24, 3 years later they will want 32 :sick
Y
And no teams deserve a bye! Injuries are the largest part of the game that you cant practice for them. Any team can suffer the worst injury at any position on any play. No favorites.
While the bye can help the top four teams and those the Cartels would like to protect in the playoff, I think the bye is also about making the Cartel championships mean something. One problem with a playoff is it does diminish the conference title a bit.
Jimbo
While the bye can help the top four teams and those the Cartels would like to protect in the playoff, I think the bye is also about making the Cartel championships mean something. One problem with a playoff is it does diminish the conference title a bit.
Once the 24 gets here, there won't be anymore Conference Championships .... or so they say.

Oh what the hell, we really don't need Conferences anymore either ...:coco:(
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Rest in peace. Together again with Spock, Doc, Uhura, and Scotty...
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Rest in peace, Checkov, and Bester too...
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Rest In Peace 😢
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Rest in Peace…
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This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.

As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
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MLB, Rays at Brewers, Friday 10-23, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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MLB, Rays at Brewers, Saturday 10-24, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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MLB, Brewers at Rays, Monday 10-26, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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MLB, Brewers at Rays, Tuesday 10-27, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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CFB, Florida vs Georgia, Saturday 10-31, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.
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