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When I had my Ford Escape, I counted on getting lower MPG due to a number of factors, mostly the increased rolling resistance caused by snow on the road, lower tire pressures due to lower air temperatures, higher drag due to increased air density and frozen precipitation on the car's body, and increased electrical power required by lighting and accessories like wipers. Since ICE are not as efficient as an EV, the energy they normally waste means these impacts are not as significant as when you drive an EV.

The Volvo PHEV I drive now will drop to its EPA range in the Winter (35 Miles Electric range) while I am seeing 50 miles of EV range in the summertime. I don't have a heat pump, but a resistive heater which uses a Watt of electricity to produce one watt of heat energy. It's better to heat the seats and steering wheel (still resistive, but targeting the contact points with less power). ICE is so bad at converting gasoline into forward motion that all that heat can be used to heat up the cabin. That's great when it's cold, but wasted when it's hot out.

Same thing with braking, ICE just heats up the air by rubbing friction material against steel disks (or drums). EV captures the kinetic energy and puts most of it back into the battery.

Foxbat said:

When I had my Ford Escape, I counted on getting lower MPG due to a number of factors, mostly the increased rolling resistance caused by snow on the road, lower tire pressures due to lower air temperatures, higher drag due to increased air density and frozen precipitation on the car's body, and increased electrical power required by lighting and accessories like wipers. Since ICE are not as efficient as an EV, the energy they normally waste means these impacts are not as significant as when you drive an EV.

The Volvo PHEV I drive now will drop to its EPA range in the Winter (35 Miles Electric range) while I am seeing 50 miles of EV range in the summertime. I don't have a heat pump, but a resistive heater which uses a Watt of electricity to produce one watt of heat energy. It's better to heat the seats and steering wheel (still resistive, but targeting the contact points with less power). ICE is so bad at converting gasoline into forward motion that all that heat can be used to heat up the cabin. That's great when it's cold, but wasted when it's hot out.

Same thing with braking, ICE just heats up the air by rubbing friction material against steel disks (or drums). EV captures the kinetic energy and puts most of it back into the battery.

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Wait a minute ....
I dis agree with your 1st paragraph. In a Gas vehicle running the Wipers is Not making less Miles Per Gallon (or per Volt in your case) running things on electric isn't effecting the MPG

2nd paragraph ...
You just pointed out that you lose travel distance in the Winter (Cold) 35 -50 ...

3rd Paragraph
You mentioned that Ice rubs your disks to stop , which it does ....
However, are you trying to say that the EV doesn't rub its disc together to stop ?
Yes it does, your comparing 2 different things, yes the EV kinetic energy, but that kinetic energy is doing what, its making the brakes work.

Both vehicles stop using Brake system, but when you break it down, its still using pads and Drum or rotors to Stop.
They just do it a different way.

Jimbo said:

Both vehicles stop using Brake system, but when you break it down, its still using pads and Drum or rotors to Stop.
They just do it a different way.

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Actually, EVs stop the majority of the time using regenerative braking via the electric motors. You can also use the friction brakes, but id say 80-90% of the time I do not, and most EV drivers would be the same.

This is one reason your regular brakes last so much longer on an EV.

Ronnie- said:

Actually, EVs stop the majority of the time using regenerative braking via the electric motors. You can also use the friction brakes, but id say 80-90% of the time I do not, and most EV drivers would be the same.

This is one reason your regular brakes last so much longer on an EV.

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Well, thats pretty damn scary ...

Jimbo said:

Well, thats pretty damn scary ...

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Out of curiosity, what is scary about it?

Ronnie- said:

Out of curiosity, what is scary about it?

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Not Knowing your brakes are going to function.
With an Ice Car I Know when I use the brakes, they work .... you sound like they don't use them.

Then again when I had my 4 speed, i'd often times use the engine to slow as well, but never intentionally not use the brake.

Curious, do the EV's and Teslas have a Manual option when you buy them ?

Jimbo said:

Then again when I had my 4 speed, i'd often times use the engine to slow as well, but never intentionally not use the brake.

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I would not really equate it to engine braking like you are accustomed to.

Honestly, from the passenger seat you cant tell the driver isnt using the brake pedal.

For the driver it is a much smoother experience.

Ronnie- said:

I would not really equate it to engine braking like you are accustomed to.

Honestly, from the passenger seat you cant tell the driver isnt using the brake pedal.

For the driver it is a much smoother experience.

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I have never been able to drive an EV, so at this point ... I'm just not sure how it all works ...
Thats why I have been asking questions ... so I can learn

I take that back, I did drive an EV once for about 30 minutes, it was a Ford Maverick I believe.

And THEN, there's the Fred Flintstone method….

Jimbo said:

I have never been able to drive an EV, so at this point ... I'm just not sure how it all works ...
Thats why I have been asking questions ... so I can learn

I take that back, I did drive an EV once for about 30 minutes, it was a Ford Maverick I believe.

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Mechanically it's very different - but in practice, most EVs just feel like they have more drag on them and you have to keep the pedal down to keep them going instead of coasting - but even then there are options. My EV9 I can set to allow it to do that - have no resistance and it'll coast. Some do that to try and min/max miles on long trips (I don't). Most (like me) just leave it as-is, and I drive it mostly like normal - slowing in traffic I just ease up on the gas, and stopping at a light I only need to use the brake to bleed off the last bit of momentum to come to a smooth stop. The other extreme is available too, I can go full 1-pedal driving and increase the resistance to the point that it will capably stop as fast as you'd expect at any light or traffic transition. Options are nice, and many vehicles have them.

It largely feels the same, minor adjustment to how the vehicle starts/stops/stays at speed. Mechanically - yeah, big differences going on, as evidenced by the last dozen posts. For most the end result is just low / no maintenance and it all just kinda works.

navychop said:

And THEN, there's the Fred Flintstone method….

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Yes, you have to One person version, FRED ...
Or the 2 person version, with Barney helping ....

Yaba Da Ba Doo ....

meStevo said:

Most (like me) just leave it as-is, and I drive it mostly like normal - slowing in traffic I just ease up on the gas, and stopping at a light I only need to use the brake to bleed off the last bit of momentum to come to a smooth stop. The other extreme is available too, I can go full 1-pedal driving and increase the resistance to the point that it will capably stop as fast as you'd expect at any light or traffic transition. Options are nice, and many vehicles have them.

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I usually leave mine on the high setting, then use it to ease to a stop at the light. I use the brakes about once a week, but just to clean them off really.

GM has some issues here or there on some of the EVs, but one pedal driving is one thing IMO that they do better than most of the others. I definitely prefer their implementation over Tesla.

My biggest problem is going back and forth from the EV9 to the R1T.

The EV9 I just leave on Lvl3 regenerative braking. The EV9 uses brake blending so once regenerative braking is maxed out it blends in the mechanical brakes. Also lvl3 on the EV9 doesn't bring it to a full stop, you have to use the brake pedal once it gets to 3-4mph to come to a full stop.

The Rivian is fully regenerative braking. Let off the accelerator and it comes to a full stop. The Rivian also has a more aggressive regen profile than the EV9, so sometimes when I get back in the ev9 and let off the accelerator expecting to come to a full stop then realize I'm not in the Rivian and nearly break my neck hitting the brakes at the last min to come to a full stop.

If you are looking to get a new iPhone I would wait until September if you can as the new iPhones will be out then.

I am not sure if I will be looking for an iPhone 18 Pro Max or a iPhone Ultra which will be the new foldable iPhone.

I saw that Tim Cook is quoted as saying that the next iPhones will have higher prices due to the increase in RAM costs. So it might make sense to buy now at the price you know versus waiting for the next iPhone with a $100-300 higher starting price tag. There's also the Siri requirement for 12 GB of RAM internally to support on-phone A.I.

Scott Greczkowski said:

If you are looking to get a new iPhone I would wait until September if you can as the new iPhones will be out then.

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If you believe the recent story in the Wall Street Journal, the prices are likely to take a pretty good hop on the new models due to RAM costs. As a possible result, Apple's per-unit profit may be reduced to only 43%.

The follow-on stories from other agencies are speculating that Apple will try to hold the line and shift RAM costs to other gear (like high-end notebooks), but it isn't a happy day when the cost of a bar phone exceeds $1,800.

Another update to the phone itself is if it will support the new Starlink connectivity. I might wait for the word from Apple before deciding. My 15PM is doing OK for now. Cost is not a big issue for me but I do understand the new shortage on RAM and no solution to that for the foreseeable future.

I have an iPhone 13 Pro Max, and my wife and daughter both have iPhone 13 Pros, and my son has an iPhone SE 3rd Gen. I had been on the fence about upgrading during this next cycle in the fall or wait until next year with the 20th anniversary next year since I am assuming iOS 29 next year would be the last one supported by our current phones. I normally would never consider doing an upgrade once March rolled around and especially not during the summer right before, but two things have me looking at getting all of our phones upgraded this weekend; Apple's price increases on everything else last month and the strong indication that the iPhone 18 lineup will see substantial price increases to match, and everything I've read about the 18 line is saying this is more like an "S" update like Apple used to do. I don't see a single feature being rumored on the iPhone 18 lineup that I absolutely have to have. My thought is upgrade to the iPhone 17 Pro Max for myself, and the Pro for the rest of my family to get in before the price increases, knowing the specs on the 17 Pro/Max should last a while just like our 13 Pro/Max has done. My son is going to get a really nice upgrade coming from the SE3. The deals that Verizon has right now also are very good, and as much as I would rather go do this at the Apple Store, it's my son's phone that has me going directly to Verizon to do the upgrades. The trade in/bill credits are identical on the 13 Pro/Max lines with Apple and Verizon, but the SE3 is quite a bit lower with Apple whereas Verizon is matching the $830 bill credit like the other three lines.

Foxbat said:

I saw that Tim Cook is quoted as saying that the next iPhones will have higher prices due to the increase in RAM costs. So it might make sense to buy now at the price you know versus waiting for the next iPhone with a $100-300 higher starting price tag. There's also the Siri requirement for 12 GB of RAM internally to support on-phone A.I.

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This right here is the main reason I am looking to upgrade right before the next release cycle. Say the price increase is an average of $200; that makes the entry iPhone 18 Pro Max $1399 instead of $1199 for the iPhone 17 Pro Max, or approximately a 16% increase. We keep our phones for 5 years on average which is why getting the iPhone 17 Pro Max now doesn't sound so bad to me, even if that means one less year of support down the road.

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Will Paramount+ now include all the Warner Brothers content? Don't suppose we'd be lucky enough that it would include all the HBO content…

Foxbat said:

Will Paramount+ now include all the Warner Brothers content? Don't suppose we'd be lucky enough that it would include all the HBO content…

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I'm sure eventually there will be a super bundle or they will go the Disney+-Hulu route where P+ is one price and then HBO Max is an add-on (or something)

savarese04 said:

I'm sure eventually there will be a super bundle or they will go the Disney+-Hulu route where P+ is one price and then HBO Max is an add-on (or something)

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And HBO Max to join together with Paramount+. (paywall)

article said:

Paramount Skydance will combine Paramount+ and HBO Max into one streaming service, David Ellison, the company's CEO, said on a Monday call with investors.

"As we said, we do plan to put the two services together, which today gives us a little over 200 million direct-to-consumer subscribers," Ellison said. "We think that really positions us to compete with the leaders in the space."

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A la carte is dead! It was killed by corporate bundling.

comfortably_numb said:

Judge Orders Paramount To Temporarily Pause Warner Bros Acquisition

California and 11 states sued on July 13, arguing the deal would create a media behemoth with the power to raise prices in film and television.

www.huffpost.com

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Paramount will have to pay Warner Bothers/ Discovery $650 million "ticking fee"for every quarter, or $7 million per day, if they go past the original merger assured date they put in their contract, which is in September 30th.

Paramount is also on the hook for $7 billion reverse termination fee paid to Warner Brothers/Discovery if the merger doesn't go through period. This could make the merger not worth their money or especially their time. Especially since I heard that Warner Brothers /Discovery is losing billions each month. They have till June 4, 2027 to fight out the deal with regulators and lawyers before the deal completely expires.

So the longer they stretch this out in Court the better for killing the merger. The A.G.s of 12 blue states are using the 1913 bill passed and signed in to law in 1914 - Clayton Antitrust Act - to stop the merger. I would love to see someone in D.C. not get what he wants in the merger in the first place, which was the destruction of CNN and the firing of the anchors he personally doesn't like.

Yespage said:

And HBO Max to join together with Paramount+. (paywall)

A la carte is dead! It was killed by corporate bundling.

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Hmmm ... Isn't that WHY we started Streaming in the first place ?
(People cried for Ala Carte)

Not I. I started streaming for better control of what programming I chose to pay for and because of the $40-50 in extra fees on my bill that I haven't had to pay for more than 10 years now.

I started streaming because that is where the content was, specifically content that didn't come with a bunch of franchise fees, equipment fees, and a bunch of expensive sports that I didn't think was worth the cost.

ncted said:

I started streaming because that is where the content was, specifically content that didn't come with a bunch of franchise fees, equipment fees, and a bunch of expensive sports that I didn't think was worth the cost.

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I don't think the Sports is worth the cost, but I still buy the NFL and MLB.

When I say, not worth the cost ... I mean they could cut the cost in half and they would get more people watching.

MLB is actually pretty decent price, for the Out of Market ... the Home team they charge to much.

Oatmeal and an apple. Coffee.

Sometimes I get a hankerin' for Waffle House. Today was the day. I know some people think I'm weird, I don't care.

Honey Nut Cheerios

TRG said:

Oatmeal and an apple. Coffee.

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I need to get some more oatmeal...
Scrambled egg and sausage bowl topped with pico de gallo, 1 strip bacon, whole milk...

Corned beef hash and eggs. Coffee.

I remember the original C band channel of that name. It wasn't the same as the over the air channel of the same name today. I received that locally until earlier this year and it aired mainly movies. Perhaps I'm wrong but I thought that became American Life TV, but it's been a long time.

Seems like they were the forerunners of airing older classic programming that began around the time of Nick at Night or TV land. The days before the original RTN, RTV channels from Equity TV and later from Luken that I loved watching. Thanks for sharing.

And it wasn't scrambled!