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I have a question I am hoping someone here might be able to answer. I own a small motel and I currently have 21 cable drops for basic cable in the rooms. The basic cable is not bad it is 75 channels for a little over $5 a month per drop. But Time Warner recently bought the cable plant and got rid of all analog premium channels save for 1 lonely HBO. They want $10 a month per drop for one channel of HBO.
Now I was looking at Dish & DirecTV business service and for the same price Time Warner is asking for 1 channel of HBO I could get multi-channel: ShowTime, HBO and STARZ.
I am happy with the basic cable it is a good price and I get Toledo, Detroit, Bowling Green, Cleveland and Windsor locals, two Fox Sport nets and some Spanish stations which the guest like. I do not want to loose all that buy getting my basic service from either of the dishes, but I would like to add some premium channels via one of the dish companies.
So that said here is my question. The basic cable stations occupy channels 1-99; would it be possible to receive premium channels via satellite, modulate and distribute them via a SMATV system so that they occupy channels 100 – 125 AND integrate them with my current cable feed supplied by Time Warner so that all channels are disabled seamlessly together on the TVs?
Any thoughts or comments would be much appreciated.
Thank you for your time.
I have a question I am hoping someone here might be able to answer. I own a small motel and I currently have 21 cable drops for basic cable in the rooms. The basic cable is not bad it is 75 channels for a little over $5 a month per drop. But Time Warner recently bought the cable plant and got rid of all analog premium channels save for 1 lonely HBO. They want $10 a month per drop for one channel of HBO.
Now I was looking at Dish & DirecTV business service and for the same price Time Warner is asking for 1 channel of HBO I could get multi-channel: ShowTime, HBO and STARZ.
I am happy with the basic cable it is a good price and I get Toledo, Detroit, Bowling Green, Cleveland and Windsor locals, two Fox Sport nets and some Spanish stations which the guest like. I do not want to loose all that buy getting my basic service from either of the dishes, but I would like to add some premium channels via one of the dish companies.
So that said here is my question. The basic cable stations occupy channels 1-99; would it be possible to receive premium channels via satellite, modulate and distribute them via a SMATV system so that they occupy channels 100 – 125 AND integrate them with my current cable feed supplied by Time Warner so that all channels are disabled seamlessly together on the TVs?
Any thoughts or comments would be much appreciated.
Thank you for your time.
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First of all, you need to call a professional installer that knows how to properly integrate all this for you. You do NOT want to be sending stuff back out to TW's plant & causing interfearance for other TW subs.
But for some basic advice, I HIGHLY doubt the basic service occupies ALL channels from 1-99. More likely, the analog only goes up to ch 78, THEN skips to ch 95-99, which leaves quite a bit of available channels to locally modulate on. BUT, those spaces are most likely occupied by digital carriers for TW's digital services. But that's very easy to fix - a simple low-pass filter put on the main cable feed to filter out those carriers will enable you to cleanly modulate whatever you want in those spaces. This way, you could put YOUR channels in the 2 digit range & not have to deal with customers trying to key in 3-digit numbers, of which some TV remotes will not let you do. (you have to scan up for any channels above 99
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(BTW, you DO understand that channels 95-99 are actually between channels 6 & 14 frequency-wise, so the filter will leave those intact, assuming you have any)
I do this in my house right now on top of my basic cable service with 8 modulated channels from my DVR & satellite boxes & it works great, since I have a TV in every room.
First of all, you need to call a professional installer that knows how to properly integrate all this for you. You do NOT want to be sending stuff back out to TW's plant & causing interfearance for other TW subs.
But for some basic advice, I HIGHLY doubt the basic service occupies ALL channels from 1-99. More likely, the analog only goes up to ch 78, THEN skips to ch 95-99, which leaves quite a bit of available channels to locally modulate on. BUT, those spaces are most likely occupied by digital carriers for TW's digital services. But that's very easy to fix - a simple low-pass filter put on the main cable feed to filter out those carriers will enable you to cleanly modulate whatever you want in those spaces. This way, you could put YOUR channels in the 2 digit range & not have to deal with customers trying to key in 3-digit numbers, of which some TV remotes will not let you do. (you have to scan up for any channels above 99
) (BTW, you DO understand that channels 95-99 are actually between channels 6 & 14 frequency-wise, so the filter will leave those intact, assuming you have any)
I do this in my house right now on top of my basic cable service with 8 modulated channels from my DVR & satellite boxes & it works great, since I have a TV in every room.
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Also another thought - instead of going the DBS route f/premiums, you could just get a digital box from TW for each HBO plex channel you want on your system. TW probably provides all the screens of a given premium for the same price as the analog, as long as you are getting a digital box from TW. You would then run each box into a modulator on a different channel. Since from your post your really just wanting more HBO feeds for the same $$$ as the one analog from TW, this would get you more for about the same cost as getting it from DBS, but you wouldn't have to deal with 2 different prog entities. While you still would have most of the same upfront equipment expenses wally mentioned, you would NOT have to deal with getting your own satellite receivers & if the digital boxes break, TW takes care of those.
You probably should talk to someone in the commercial TV division of your local TW office about this - they may actually work with you & possibly even provide the equipment at a reduced or no charge, just to keep ALL your TV business.
You probably should talk to someone in the commercial TV division of your local TW office about this - they may actually work with you & possibly even provide the equipment at a reduced or no charge, just to keep ALL your TV business.
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thanks for the info.
I did not mention but I would defiantly get some kind of contractor/tech to install the system. I just wanted to know first if it was even technically feasible before I subjected myself to talking to sales reps.
And dishrich is right the basic channels are 1-76 and then a public access on 99 for some reason, but as he stated I was assuming TW had other signals on the 80s & 90s and every blue moon they add a channel or two. So just figured I would be safe putting them in the 100s.
But seeing as it is in the realm of possibility I will probably go ahead and get some quotes from the concerned parties.
Thanks for the info, any other suggestions still welcome!
I did not mention but I would defiantly get some kind of contractor/tech to install the system. I just wanted to know first if it was even technically feasible before I subjected myself to talking to sales reps.
And dishrich is right the basic channels are 1-76 and then a public access on 99 for some reason, but as he stated I was assuming TW had other signals on the 80s & 90s and every blue moon they add a channel or two. So just figured I would be safe putting them in the 100s.
But seeing as it is in the realm of possibility I will probably go ahead and get some quotes from the concerned parties.
Thanks for the info, any other suggestions still welcome!
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So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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My health Insurance renewal for 2027 just came in. Going from $827 a month to $1,187 a month. Deductible going up a $1k to $9,350. Max out of pocket also going up $1k to $11,000. Doctor co-pay of $40. Urgent Care co-pay $50. ER 50% coinsurance after deductible. That's all in network. Out of network is double, should it be needed.
Have to think about this. I'm really tempted to just go without now. I only go to the doctor once or twice a year. I pay out of pocket for Tirzepitide and can do without the Rosuvastatin (crestor) now. Really tired of spending over $10k a year and getting nothing out of it.
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Such a scam. Healthcare.gov shows me cheaper individual plans available for 2027 from ambetter that ambetter doesn't show on their website. Looked it up. I've spent $68,000 in premiums the last 5 years and got nothing out of it except a few doctors visits and labs.
I have Dish with Hopper3. I choose to get local channels OTA and had a "guide list" established at my previous home. Having moved a few miles away, I wanted to update the list by appending a couple new stations via a rescan. As many would know, some stations come in with the UHF/VHF antenna aimed in one direction, while others come in better with a different direction.
Unfortunately, when a scan is done (bringing in 25-30 stations for that particular antenna aim), the dialog screen does not present the established guide list; it presents an empty field to the right that the scanned stations may be selected one by one and added to the empty guide. But because of antenna aim, some stations originally saved are missing, and would have to be retrieved with a different antenna aim. But as I explain, if a 2nd scan is done with a different antenna aim, the stations saved from the first scan are lost.
It troubles me that Dish didn't develop software that would allow a user to simply append only 1 or 2 channels to the established list.
Any thought on this? Has anyone experienced this or heard of this from others?
Unfortunately, when a scan is done (bringing in 25-30 stations for that particular antenna aim), the dialog screen does not present the established guide list; it presents an empty field to the right that the scanned stations may be selected one by one and added to the empty guide. But because of antenna aim, some stations originally saved are missing, and would have to be retrieved with a different antenna aim. But as I explain, if a 2nd scan is done with a different antenna aim, the stations saved from the first scan are lost.
It troubles me that Dish didn't develop software that would allow a user to simply append only 1 or 2 channels to the established list.
Any thought on this? Has anyone experienced this or heard of this from others?
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After having continuing trouble with my eight+ year old Dell Inspiron laptop I am looking to hopefully catch a good deal on new one. My options to buy is Costco and Sam's Club. It seems like a lot of new laptops are 2 in 1 which I do not need. I use the laptop to mainly surf the web and keep up with my finances, money and bills. I would like to have at least a 15" screen and having a touchscreen is a plus. The keyboard would need to lighted also. I don't game any. It would have to be Windows instead of and not Mac. The brands I see the most are Asus, Dell and HP. My two last laptops has been Dell's. Of these brands are there any standouts over the other brands. My budget (hopefully) is $600+-. Also while researching I noticed that do not have ethernet ports.
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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..I hate playing in Ames.
I hate playing in LA ...
Buckeyes had 2 weeks off and came out and looked absolutely terrible ... broke in a new Freshman Qb, but that wasn't the worst part ... undiscipline play, at last count they had 10 penalties.
Freshman in the end of the game trying to play catch up, had a lot of Over throws ... Bucks lose ...
#1 Miami struggled but pulled away in the end beating North Carolina by 3 ...
Tuesday the CFP brings out thier Playoff Top 12 again ... Buckeyes should drop from #2 to about #22 (they won't) had they had thier Starting QB, it would have been a different game ...
They could lose the rest of thier games at this point.
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And I heard that your QB made a poor choice after scoring the tying touchdown, leading to a fifteen yard penalty on the ensuing kickoff. The Cyclones were then able to take advantage of the resulting field position to get close enough to score the winning field goal.
In a NCAA Football season of bizarre endings, this has to rank right up there.
I had an old Wireless Joey replaced by a Wireless Joey 4 (Android TV) - still have a Hopper 3 without the Hopper Plus. What do I have to do to get the EPG to show channel logos instead of "Dish"? This is annoying as hell and it's been this way for over a month…
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