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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I had dish in my home about 3 years now using a 522
The Dish 500 was mounted on the roof with Twin cable along the roof over hang
then down the wall and thru a hole in the wall the installer drilled about 2 inches above the ground. The twin cable feed from the dish went to receiver 1 & 2 inputs
on the 522. TV 2 out was connected into my prewired cable run next to the TV and then connected with the cable feed going to my second room at the whole house junction box at the front of my house.
I moved into a new home recently and took my receiver using the dish mover program. The dish installer arrived by himself in a dish truck and wore a Dish uniform.
The new home was pre-wired for cable and DSS and the guy did a excellent job of mounting the dish on a brick wall instead of on my tile roof. It took him maybe 45 mins max and everything worked great and looked professional. I was really happy.
My daughter moved into my other house and signed-up for Dish for a standard
dual channel receiver that replaced the 522 , It looks the same as my 522 but has a number like 622 I belive.
Should have been a simple install as the dish,LNA's and all cable were in place.
she wanted the same setup as I was using with the back feed going to the same second room. My daughter informed me two installers showed up in a Dish truck but no dish uniforms. They seemed confused about how to install the receiver and took over two hours. I just checked the house and they replaced the Dish 500 with another Dish 500, left the old dish on the ground but it has no LNA's
Cut the twin cable off where it use to connect to the dish and ripped it out thru the wall of the house. Left the old twin cable that I had painted and blended in well with the roof where it was. Ran single cable from the dish along the same path and into the old hole. the hole was large from the twin cable so the left a large blob of clear RTV to seal the cable entrance point up.
They ran a second line from the Dish over the top of the house roof and down into
where my house connects to the carport. They cut all the cables running from my whole house junction box at the front of the house at the point where they enter the house near the carport and tied the second line from the dish in here to feed room two. It looks like crap with a cable running over the top of the house plus old cut off twin and a new single cable running along the roof overhang.
My pre-wired cable lines have been cut. They are using two switches at the receiver and then another 1 or two swithces at the dish that I never had with the original 522 dish install.
Can anyone explain why any of this would be needed and why they couldn't have just connected a new receiver and been done?
I called dish and got a brush off that the installer must have needed to replace old faulty cable and equipment. I told them thats not true as it was working fine when i disconnected my 522
sorry but Im steaming Mad at this point and don't know who to complain to about it.
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J
just to play devil's advocate here a little bit... they may have re-ran all of the wire because the wire was not "approved" and the backfeed for tv2 may have been RG59?
But i'm kinda doubting it if they didn't ground the system either.
The only reason they would be worried about using non-approved wire would be if they may be getting checked by a QAS, but if they failed to ground it wouldn't matter anyway.

And this is why I would hate to deal with an install done by DNS, there is no real personal responsibility for the work done... how many people have you talked to at this point... its rediculous, i'd fire off another email to the ceo address until you finally get the install resolved.
T
just to play devil's advocate here a little bit... they may have re-ran all of the wire because the wire was not "approved" and the backfeed for tv2 may have been RG59?........

There is nothing wrong with installer using existing RG59 for a TV2 backfeed if it is in good shape. It is the SAT feeds that MUST be 2150 Mhz RG6 (or better).

Im betting the house internal SAT feeds are RG59 - which is not OK. It might hold up, it might not. Depends on the quality of the RG59.



As with any service company - the quality of the installer will vary greatly. You might get a newb (they have to start somewhere), you might get a lazy old salt (tired of installing), you might get a HIGH SPEED LOW DRAG (someone who actually cares) kinda guy. its a crap shoot.

sorry you had troubles.
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Why can't the 722 be a centrally located recorder available to all rooms?
Please let me know if this not the right forum for this question. I am trying to prevent a possible "Botched Install". My old knowledgable installer is out of business and I can't find anyone who understands my setup. I'm new to this forum and no expert. But I do not understand why....

An HD signal travels through thin air to a satellite dish. Then through coax cable to a receiver. Then from the Receiver to an HDTV that has an HD tuner. Yet I'm told that the receiver has to be connected to the HDTV with a very short special cable that can carry an HD signal.

Why can't a single receiver like the PVR 722 be used in one central location in a house and then distribute the HD signal to HDTVs throughout the house? Why do I have to have a separate HD Receiver and HDTV in each room when I have coax cable RG6/7 to every room?

Why wouldn't it work If you attach a PVR 722 to a video modulator with output to a coax cable throughout the house? I know this works with standard definition tv signals. Why not with HD?

This would allow DISH Programming on TVs in every room to be controlled by a single UHF remote.

It seems there should be an ingenious way to do this. If it can't be done, I'd like to hear that news from some independent experts and not the "botchers". Thanks for your help.
Claude Greiner
If your not happy loosen one of the connections and call Dish and say it does not work.

Setup a trouble call and make them fix it when they come back out!
Agonizing Fury
Why can't the 722 be a centrally located recorder available to all rooms?
Please let me know if this not the right forum for this question. I am trying to prevent a possible "Botched Install". My old knowledgable installer is out of business and I can't find anyone who understands my setup. I'm new to this forum and no expert. But I do not understand why....

An HD signal travels through thin air to a satellite dish. Then through coax cable to a receiver. Then from the Receiver to an HDTV that has an HD tuner. Yet I'm told that the receiver has to be connected to the HDTV with a very short special cable that can carry an HD signal.

Why can't a single receiver like the PVR 722 be used in one central location in a house and then distribute the HD signal to HDTVs throughout the house? Why do I have to have a separate HD Receiver and HDTV in each room when I have coax cable RG6/7 to every room?

Why wouldn't it work If you attach a PVR 722 to a video modulator with output to a coax cable throughout the house? I know this works with standard definition tv signals. Why not with HD?

This would allow DISH Programming on TVs in every room to be controlled by a single UHF remote.

It seems there should be an ingenious way to do this. If it can't be done, I'd like to hear that news from some independent experts and not the "botchers". Thanks for your help.

This might have been better as a new thread, instead of hijacking the old one, but I will address your question anyways (still kinda new here, so if this is unacceptable, please let me know in a PM and I will avoid doing so in the future).

The biggest reason for not doing this, in my opinion, is control. HDMI cables (the short specialty cables they were talking about) allow the receiver to and TV to talk using encrypted Audio and Video Signals preventing any possibility of recording the digital stream. Dish is pretty much required by many of it's channel providers to use this type of setup. Although they currently allow HD signals on the un-encrypted Component cables, there will come a day when the receiver will be instructed to downsample the HD signal for certain shows on the un-encrypted connections. Using ATSC signals (Digital over the Air type as you suggested) for HD to TV2 was discussed in an e-mail to tech forum on Dish channel 101 a few months ago, and they gave this (although a slightly less in depth answer) as the reason they will not do it.

Agonizing Fury
Pepper
Plus, it seems that modulators for ATSC are still hideously expensive.

There are ways of getting an HD signal to a remote location, most of them involve building a very long HDMI or component cable.

(perhaps a mod will happen along, and split GJJR's question and our replies into a separate thread)
Scott Greczkowski
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

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If Love Must Go - Dobie Gray
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Drift Away - Dobie Gray
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Last reply · posted in What's Cooking?
Who says dinner or lunch has to be the only good meals of the day?

Honey butter grits with scrambled eggs and grilled boneless pork ribs on flakey biscuits washed down with cranberry juice.
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Dos cackleberrys over easy on top of 2 corned beef hash patties fried in skillet... Chocolate milk.
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Cold morning today, only 32 degrees. Fired up the oven and made cinnamon rolls (from a tube) and a pot of coffee.
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2 egg burrito with bacon and a side of hashbrowns. Coffee.

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Breakfast Quesadillas. Grilled flour tortilla filled with scrambled eggs, hash browns, chopped green chile, cheddar & Jack cheese and bacon. Coffee.

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Taco omelette. 3 eggs, taco meat from yesterday, diced green chilis, cheddar cheese, chopped red onion, avocado, black olives, chopped tomato, La Victoria Salsa Brava.

This one was really, really good!
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
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Sorry to hear this. R.I.P.
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R.I.P.
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My Mom was a huge McMillan & Wife fan.

RIP
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Mcmillan and wife was where I remember her from, R.I.P. ...
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Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in SiriusXM Satellite Radio
Some of the channels start next week.

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My favorite is probably Holiday Pops.
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It's not even Halloween yet.
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I like the Jimmy Fallon channel. This will be its third year. I like that it's all fresh each year. Also fun when he pops on live from time to time.
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

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Jimbo
Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

They will have to look at the switching sections to determine WHY 2 trains were on the same track ... at the same time.