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Since BillDel84 was gone for a while and is now back,

considering he is a diehard basketball (and Celtics) fan,

I want him to help me solve a debate between me and another poster.

Jimbo and I differ on what is considered good basketball.

He likes basketball played 'the right way' with defense and teamwork and all that.

I don't watch basketball BECAUSE there is NO DEFENSE.
Back in the '70's you had hard working teams that knew how to play D.

I, on the other hand, am SICK of that boring, slow stuff.

I want to see something new, something EXCITING AND DIFFERENT.

I HATE that slow and boring 'first to 70-80 points' style of basketball.

If the Spurs meet the Pistons in the Finals, I will not watch a second; I would boycott that series.

Anyway,

who do you side with here?
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BillD1984
Since BillDel84 was gone for a while and is now back,

considering he is a diehard basketball (and Celtics) fan,

I want him to help me solve a debate between me and another poster.

Jimbo and I differ on what is considered good basketball.

He likes basketball played 'the right way' with defense and teamwork and all that.



I, on the other hand, am SICK of that boring, slow stuff.

I want to see something new, something EXCITING AND DIFFERENT.

I HATE that slow and boring 'first to 70-80 points' style of basketball.

If the Spurs meet the Pistons in the Finals, I will not watch a second; I would boycott that series.

Anyway,

who do you side with here?


I honestly don't believe it's a matter of right and wrong. You are both entitled to your opinion of what brand of basketball you prefer. Myself, I like a happy medium. I don't like it when it's 78-75, but I don't care for a 131-126 Denver Nuggets type game, where both teams treat defense like it's the plague. Give me 102-100 any day of the week, where both teams run up and down the floor, but also play tenacious, in-your-face defense. Admittedly the Spurs are not my cup of tea, but at the same time i respect what they've accomplished over the past 10 years. Once again, I'm sticking to my earlier prediction of Lakers-Pistons, with Detroit winning their fourth banner.

P.S. SabresRule,
I realize you and I got off on the wrong foot on the DBSForums board and I'm sorry for that. But I must say I admire your passion when it comes to sports. I don't always agree with you, but that's what it's all about..........opinions. Kudos!!! :up
HD MM
Personally, you may both be wrong and right at the same time, but just not realized it yet. :D

Great defense IS still played around the league. Especially in the East. You shouldn't have needed any further evidence than the Celtics vs. Cav's series. The Cav's averaged 85pts and the Celtics 84pts through the 7 game series.

This series featured great team defense, blocks, contested shots, steals and a relatively "low" scoring affair by both teams. However, it also featured some really great offense too. See Game 7 for evidence, ie. the LeBron vs. Pierce showdown.
Ramy
Personally, you may both be wrong and right at the same time, but just not realized it yet. :D

I say we leave it at that. Sounds good to me.:)
Paul Wozniak
They played defense in the 70's? Not by my recollection. Defense started with the "Bad Boys".
salsadancer7
Great defense is ALWAYS played in the playoffs...even in games that both teams score in the upper 90s/lower 100s.

Great defense comes in spurts....a block here, a steal there, a forced shot over there...a 24 second clock violation over here.... I mean since when do you NEED to have a game end in 78-72 to be considered a great game because you could not score a lick...? And just because you hold a team to 82 points does NOT automatically mean the other team played great defense. Because someone shot cold does NOT mean great defense was played.

Defensive field goal percentage is the most OVERRATED stat in the NBA. If a team has a TON of wide open shots and miss a ton of lay-ups, does that mean the opposing team played great defense...??!! IF a team threw away a but of passes or dribbled a few balls off their leg, does that mean great defense was played? NO, it means you sucked and "could not stick it in even in if you where in a whore house with a pocket full of money"......:rolleyes:
TheForce
Supporting Founder Pub Member / Supporter
Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
Starting November 10, today, Disney+ brings 3D movies and immersive environments to Meta Quest 3 and 3S devices. Watch select films like Marvel's The Avengers with immersive depth and scale on a screen as big as you want it.
To get started, update your Meta Quest headset to the latest software, open Disney+ and look for the 3D Collection icon in the app navigation bar to check out available 3D films.
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navychop
I wonder if it's part of my DTV MyEntertainment package

I just have no interest in what Disney offers.
meStevo
Messed with it for a little bit, works quite well.
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dishdude
I thought the 3D craze was gone for good.
Juan
What good are 3d movies without a 3d tv?..I think the whole 3d craze ended atleast 10 years ago
TheForce
What good are 3d movies without a 3d tv?..I think the whole 3d craze ended atleast 10 years ago
I don't think 3D ever became a craze. It has always been a media for specialists. Most people didn't want to wear the glasses to view a movie. It also was an issue for people who normally wear glasses because the special glasses were not prescription.

I don't believe the medium is dead because even Apple added spatial 3D to their iphones.

The evolution of 3D went from the red / blue glasses, to the active switching glasses, to the Passive polarized glasses and then enter the HMD or head mounted display. Today these are the top gun of 3D as for games, it puts you in the game. The designation is VR180 3D.

If you are curious what it possible with VR180 3D, the porn industry has latched onto this too.
My favorite is 1. Travel documentaries that make you feel you are there. 2. Games that put you inside the game. 3. Lastly movies that were released in 3D but these were not VR180 3D, rather flat theater screen 3D.
"MysteryMan"
Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in Computers and Gadgets
I created this thread on the original Edgecutter Cutting Edge Forums site. It's simply a place for those to review the latest software available for those using Windows 10 and Windows 11. To date it has received 112,559 views. I have been asked by staff to continue this thread here.
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There were several new updates today.
"MysteryMan"
There were several new updates today.
That is correct. My late report is due to internet outages in my area. 2026-11 Security Update (KB5132061) Builds: 26300.9974, 26200.9974 and26100.9974 along with several .NET Security Updates were released yesterday. Moderate time needed for those choosing to perform a manual download/install/restart.
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harshness
The Bleeping Computer front page is littered with Microsoft reports this morning. Some are happy, some are scary, and some are ridiculous.
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EarDemon
KB5132061 failing to install with error 0x800f0993 seems to be somewhat common. Happened to me one out of my four computers, my main laptop.

Finally got it to install succussfully by running the following commands as admin

DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth
sfc /scannow
net stop bits

Delete the entire content of Windows\SoftwareDistribution

net start bits

Restart computer
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Foxbat
Wow. I guess it's good that incantation still works. I would have figured that Microsoft would have come up with a better solution to patch management by now. I think I learned that back in the W2000 or XP days…
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HipKat
Wow. I guess it's good that incantation still works. I would have figured that Microsoft would have come up with a better solution to patch management by now. I think I learned that back in the W2000 or XP days…
I'll be running it this weekend. I had to boot into Windows the other day, and it froze after booting with a Python error. A hard reset, and it booted fine, but I've had Wiondows freeze a few times over the last few months during boot.

Those commands are something I've always kept for times like this, after I run Samsung Magician, should it not find the issue.
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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long_time_Dish
Lovin' Me Along - Head East
dishstaller
Head Games - Foreigner
long_time_Dish
Games People Play - Alan Parsons Project
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PLAY The Game Tonight-Kansas
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ClarkGable
It's All In The Game - Tommy Edwards
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Last reply · posted in C-BAND Satellite Discussion
Hi guys, is anyone getting any quality on transponder 4135 L 30000 I'm not getting any quality few weeks now.
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Satfaca
No problem here (in central Europe) with a 10-footer. Do note that 9.4 dB required for the lock.
The mod is DVB-S2 8PSK with FEC 5/6.

4135LH.webp
J
Satfaca thanks for your reply, but what C band lnb are you using just to get an idea.
Satfaca
Nothing unusual, classic Titanium C138.
ewindowman
Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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comfortably_numb

Too bad their service is expensive and their coverage sucks compared to the other two of the Big 3
Juan
Too bad their service is expensive and their coverage sucks compared to the other two of the Big 3
Was that a back door compliment for Verizon?
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dishstaller
Meanwhile att is getting rid of overseas call centers

Too little too late.

I can actually shed some light on the corp attitude towards call centers.

2015-2017 I was on the Viasat Dealer Council. They would fly us out to CO or CA and wine and dine us. Pretty cool but I was there to give my input because I was a top retailer and I wanted things to improve.
Anyway, at one of the meetings I brought up the fact that customers constantly complained about the overseas call centers. The VP of the company told me that I just didn't understand....those people cost something like 25% of what US employees would cost. Well, as usual when I went out to these meetings, I was loaded for bear....ie facts. I gave them an example of a customer who spent over an hour with one of these call centers and still never got her issue resolved. She called me the next morning after we opened and I had her situation fixed in 2 minutes. I told him "So you guys paid this overseas call center X amount but the customer still wasn't taken care of. I on the other hand, and a US call center probably would have as well because there wouldn't have been the language barrier, had her taken care of in 2 min. so your savings just went right out the door because a US call center would have taken care of her and MANY other customers while your overseas call center did nothing more than PISS off a customer.
Blank stares was all I got.

And THAT was when I realized just how incompetent most of the people are who run these companies. It WAS an enlightening experience.
comfortably_numb
Was that a back door compliment for Verizon?

And TMO. If anybody's lagging behind the most, it's ATT.
fmj77
And TMO. If anybody's lagging behind the most, it's ATT.
ATT has the best service by far in my area, with Verizon being a distant second. T Mobile service is non-existent in these parts.
comfortably_numb
ATT has the best service by far in my area

I've never been to NC, but I can't think of anyplace in the Midwest or West where AT&T outperforms Verizon or T-Mobile, it seems to me they just don't have as many towers here
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Too little too late.

I can actually shed some light on the corp attitude towards call centers.

2015-2017 I was on the Viasat Dealer Council. They would fly us out to CO or CA and wine and dine us. Pretty cool but I was there to give my input because I was a top retailer and I wanted things to improve.
Anyway, at one of the meetings I brought up the fact that customers constantly complained about the overseas call centers. The VP of the company told me that I just didn't understand....those people cost something like 25% of what US employees would cost. Well, as usual when I went out to these meetings, I was loaded for bear....ie facts. I gave them an example of a customer who spent over an hour with one of these call centers and still never got her issue resolved. She called me the next morning after we opened and I had her situation fixed in 2 minutes. I told him "So you guys paid this overseas call center X amount but the customer still wasn't taken care of. I on the other hand, and a US call center probably would have as well because there wouldn't have been the language barrier, had her taken care of in 2 min. so your savings just went right out the door because a US call center would have taken care of her and MANY other customers while your overseas call center did nothing more than PISS off a customer.
Blank stares was all I got.

And THAT was when I realized just how incompetent most of the people are who run these companies. It WAS an enlightening experience.
AGREE!! DTV was the perfect example of what you said!!!
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fmj77
I've never been to NC, but I can't think of anyplace in the Midwest or West where AT&T outperforms Verizon or T-Mobile, it seems to me they just don't have as many towers here
ATT used to be non-existent as well in my area except in cities and towns. Verizon was king and also Carolina West Wireless, a small regional provider. A few years ago I started noticing that ATT's coverage had improved dramatically and since then has overtaken all the others as far as coverage is concerned.
comfortably_numb
ATT used to be non-existent as well in my area except in cities and towns. Verizon was king and also Carolina West Wireless, a small regional provider. A few years ago I started noticing that ATT's coverage had improved dramatically and since then has overtaken all the others as far as coverage is concerned.

I think Verizon had a leg up in the Midwest with their acquisition of GTE. I'm not sure who the early cell providers in the Mountain West were (US West?)
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Almighty1
ATT has the best service by far in my area, with Verizon being a distant second. T Mobile service is non-existent in these parts.
I think a lot has to do with what carrier was Verizon originally in that area as Verizon was basically GTE Wireless, BellAtlantic Mobility, Vodafone AirTouch and PrimeCo. The PrimeCo was basically a PCS network similar to the AT&T Orange aka Cingular Wireless networks.
Almighty1
I've never been to NC, but I can't think of anyplace in the Midwest or West where AT&T outperforms Verizon or T-Mobile, it seems to me they just don't have as many towers here
Same here as even in the early days, most people went the AT&T formerly known here as CellularOne because AT&T was cheaper in costs while Verizon formerly known as GTE here was supposedly better but more expensive. At least the Venture Capital Companies on Sand Hill Road chose Verizon for service reliability for a reason.
dishstaller
AGREE!! DTV was the perfect example of what you said!!!
I met a lot of reps from different companies when I attended these meetings....the WORST, most annoying people I met were from AT&T and DTV. After a few meetings I didn't even have to ask who they were with....I could tell after 2 minutes of conversation.
fmj77
I think Verizon had a leg up in the Midwest with their acquisition of GTE. I'm not sure who the early cell providers in the Mountain West were (US West?)
Verizon just acquired Carolina West back in September, so I'm hoping they improve.
Almighty1
AT&T basically went downhill as even for Internet, they were slow in offering services as AT&T WorldNet did not exist until 1994.
In 1994, the commercialization of the Internet accelerated rapidly, forcing major telecommunications giants like AT&T to compete directly with pioneering network operators like BBN (Bolt Beranek and Newman).

AT&T's Early Moves. In October 1994, AT&T launched its first public World Wide Web presence (www.att.com). However, AT&T initially lagged behind rivals in offering direct, commercial Internet backbone and access services, leading it to look for external partnerships to catch up quickly.

Having built and operated the original ARPANET, BBN formed its commercial Internet service provider (ISP) division, BBN Planet, in 1994. By the end of that year, BBN acquired regional networks like SURAnet, making it the largest provider of corporate and institutional Internet access in the United States.

Long-distance rival MCI moved faster than AT&T into commercial Internet infrastructure. Alongside Sprint, IBM, and UUNet, MCI operated one of the primary commercial Internet backbones as the government-funded NSFNET prepared for decommissioning in 1995.

Because AT&T needed immediate enterprise-grade Internet capabilities to counter MCI and Sprint, AT&T forged a major alliance with BBN Planet in mid-1995.

According to The New York Times, AT&T guaranteed BBN Planet at least $120 million in revenue over three years to supply Internet access and security services to AT&T's corporate clients, while also purchasing a minority stake in the company.

While the BBN partnership gave AT&T an immediate foothold in corporate Internet services, AT&T soon built out its own massive consumer and enterprise infrastructure, launching dial-up service AT&T WorldNet in 1996. So basically AT&T would use BBNPlanet's backbone and BBNPlanet would then use MCI's backbone for anything they didn't handle directly.

Meanwhile, GTE acquired BBN in 1997, eventually merging it into what became Verizon's network assets.

Found this online:

Only thing was I thought AT&T split into 13 Regional Bell Operating Companies and not 7 like it says.
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K
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Coming May 8th. I read the novel by Blake Crouch a few years ago but don't remember much about the story.


View: https://youtu.be/j6ucGt_Xp14
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meStevo
Almost 5 episodes in, pretty good modern Sliders / Quantum leap concept, heh.
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meStevo
Enjoyable, but yeah, weak finale. Felt like it got a little lost in the Multiplicity of it all. The more there were the less I cared about them.

Sliders and Quantum Leap meets prompt engineering, lol.
Jim S.
This whole thing sounds a bit like David Gerrold's novel "The Man Who Folded Himself." Has anyone read that and watched this series?
Foxbat
I guess no one watched the 2nd season? I thought they had a couple of good episodes, but some were way out of left field like, "Huh?"

The government agent who discovered that some mysteries are best left alone was some Quantum Karma. But the season finale was bittersweet. Hopefully they can figure out how to have another season since they managed to achieve the one goal they were shooting for.
meStevo
I started it, but I was so disconnected from the first season that I should have probably watched a recap or something first, because it didn't grab me so I never watched more than s2 e1.
BlackHitachi
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in Movie Talk
Since the Reds have there thread we should too!

Last watched Nine inch Nails
Next 3:10 to Yuma
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meStevo
Wild Horse Nine was fantastic.
dishstaller
Wild Horse Nine was fantastic.
Might have to check that out. Google describes it as a "dark comedy thriller".
long_time_Dish
Last night...

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osu1991
Veterans Day and business closed, so movie day and some tv on the patio. Watched several Chewed Up episodes on YouTube out on the patio until lunch time then came inside for the surround and movies.

Raise The Titanic (1980). Great musical score by John Barry of James Bond music fame.


View: https://youtu.be/KqWnM2xZ0gw?is=STWbRqNWrSZ1-z6-


Glenn Miller Story (1954). Great music


View: https://youtu.be/sMa-T71Az68?is=4YG3SQfWBjOG5305
Foxbat
After "VisionQuest" was over, I watched "Avengers: Infinity War" last night and "Avengers: Endgame" tonight.
osu1991
Pub Member / Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club

The number-one US state for EV growth, according to the June 22 Yardi report?
Oklahoma.


:eek


It has no ZEV mandates and "minimal" incentives, Yardi says, but also has cheap electricity, high multi-car household rates (so, for example, a non-Lightning Ford F-150 pulls their trailers), and a consumer base willing to switch.
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dishstaller
IF they had made the cyber truck more like a conventional truck, more would have bought it. There is a REASON trucks all have a very similar layout....it's what people want AND it serves the purposes those of us who have a truck needs.
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harshness
There is a REASON trucks all have a very similar layout....it's what people want AND it serves the purposes those of us who have a truck needs.
As it is, most consumers buy trucks as comfortable transportation rather than commercial utility. The Cybertruck approach to that goal was way out in left field. It turned out to be more of an austere sedan with awful daily-driver attributes (visibility, parking). The expectations regarding truck durability were dashed early on.
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EV owners could face a new $130 annual federal fee as soon as December.

  • Congress is considering a new annual fee for electric vehicle owners to help fund road maintenance.
  • The proposed fee would start at $130 for EVs and $35 for plug-in hybrids, potentially increasing over time.
  • This fee aims to have EV drivers contribute to the Highway Trust Fund, which is primarily funded by gasoline taxes.
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The truck is today's cadillac or buick
Foxbat
Never attempt to buy shrimp at a lumbago stand.
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Phone & Tablet Zone
We were up in Pigeon Forge, TN a month ago and we couldn't get anything on our phones to work on mobile data...the Ookla speed test app couldn't even do a speed test. I have an older 13 and went into my settings and turned off the 5G, making it use LTE exclusively....did a speed test of over 300mbps so obviously the 5G bands were overwhelmed. Anyway, tried to do the same thing on my Wife's 15 and the cellular data options tab simply wasn't there. Any of you run into this? We've on Verizon
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lakebum431
Works fine on my 17 Pro. Just tested it.
dishstaller
Works fine on my 17 Pro. Just tested it.
Crazy huh? I tried everything....no go..