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Apparently the channels are still uplinked...
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So, correct me if I am wrong.....but didn't Charlie say that they own 20% of Voom???

So if that is the case, are they not suing themselves????

Inquiring minds want to know.....
Peter Parker
So, correct me if I am wrong.....but didn't Charlie say that they own 20% of Voom???

So if that is the case, are they not suing themselves????

Inquiring minds want to know.....

No they are suing a company that they own a piece of. VOOm has not been profitable and therefore Echostar has never had any return on its investment. It is easy to see how froma dollar and cents perspective Echostar is better off eliminating the VOOM payment even if it means that VOOM dies.
FitzAusTex
No they are suing a company that they own a piece of. VOOm has not been profitable and therefore Echostar has never had any return on its investment. It is easy to see how froma dollar and cents perspective Echostar is better off eliminating the VOOM payment even if it means that VOOM dies.
Voom as a suite of 15 channels carried on other providers like E* was not expected to make a profit till 2009, at the earliest. Although true, it is nonetheless a little disingenuous to state that 'they've not been profitable', as they are a three year old up-start. How many companies become profitable out of the gate? I don't know the answer to this myself, but my observations in paying attention to such things tells me not very many.
F
If Rainbow sits on its butt and does nothing about Voom except sue Dish, who will get the Voom programming that was of excellent quality (though largely dated)? They have a large number of concerts in the files with some outstanding music--if I had realized the service would terminate so abruptly, I would have DVR'd a bunch of them for my own replay. I guess i just snoozed and lost...

Fitzie
Peter Parker
Voom as a suite of 15 channels carried on other providers like E* was not expected to make a profit till 2009, at the earliest. Although true, it is nonetheless a little disingenuous to state that 'they've not been profitable', as they are a three year old up-start. How many companies become profitable out of the gate? I don't know the answer to this myself, but my observations in paying attention to such things tells me not very many.

It is not disingenous at all. VOOM has failed to find a single domestic customer outside of their two owners. It is highly unlikely that t hey would have achieved profitability anytime soon much less last year.

My post was made in response to the question about why would Echostar be involved in a dispute with a company that they own a piece of it? the answer is that froma purely financial perspective they are better off getting rid of the payments to VOOM even if it forces VOOM into failure.

I fail to see how t is disingenous to answer the question asked and point out that the original business relationship with VOOM has not turned out as hoped.
hockeynut5150
So, correct me if I am wrong.....but didn't Charlie say that they own 20% of Voom???

So if that is the case, are they not suing themselves????

Inquiring minds want to know.....

if Voom provides proof they fulfilled the contract, then E* no longer has that 20% ownership, or at least that's my understanding of that ownership issue
FitzAusTex
It is not disingenous at all. VOOM has failed to find a single domestic customer outside of their two owners. It is highly unlikely that t hey would have achieved profitability anytime soon much less last year.

My post was made in response to the question about why would Echostar be involved in a dispute with a company that they own a piece of it? the answer is that froma purely financial perspective they are better off getting rid of the payments to VOOM even if it forces VOOM into failure.

I fail to see how t is disingenous to answer the question asked and point out that the original business relationship with VOOM has not turned out as hoped.
I feel like you were stating that Voom was not profitable because it had not secured other distributors. Voom was not yet profitable as it didnt expect to be turing a profit by mid-2008, and I surmise that Echostar knew this upfront. "VOOm has not been profitable and therefore Echostar has never had any return on its investment.", to me sounds like a 50 year old airline that losses money most of those 50 years.
kstuart
Even less than the Lakers'...
Peter Parker
I feel like you were stating that Voom was not profitable because it had not secured other distributors. Voom was not yet profitable as it didnt expect to be turing a profit by mid-2008, and I surmise that Echostar knew this upfront. "VOOm has not been profitable and therefore Echostar has never had any return on its investment.", to me sounds like a 50 year old airline that losses money most of those 50 years.


I was simply providing an explanation as to why DISH still might get intoa dispute with VOOM despite the pwnership.
Peter Parker
if Voom provides proof they fulfilled the contract, then E* no longer has that 20% ownership, or at least that's my understanding of that ownership issue


I am not sure where you get that from. The sale of assets and the ownership percentage happened first then the affiiaition agreement. While one grew out of the other I have not seen anything linking the two like that.

BTW I am not trying to correct you just ask where you got that from.
Kevinw
If Rainbow sits on its butt and does nothing about Voom except sue Dish, who will get the Voom programming that was of excellent quality (though largely dated)? They have a large number of concerts in the files with some outstanding music--if I had realized the service would terminate so abruptly, I would have DVR'd a bunch of them for my own replay. I guess i just snoozed and lost...

Fitzie
Me too, So much stuff I did not bother archiving because it was on all the time.
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Me to I have a few things on my DVR but I would have gotten a lot more if they had informed me of the takedown.
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Show and Tell - Al Wilson
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On with the Show - The Rolling Stones
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The Show Must Go On - Pink Floyd
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If Love Must Go - Dobie Gray
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Drift Away - Dobie Gray
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Last reply · posted in What's Cooking?
Who says dinner or lunch has to be the only good meals of the day?

Honey butter grits with scrambled eggs and grilled boneless pork ribs on flakey biscuits washed down with cranberry juice.
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Dos cackleberrys over easy on top of 2 corned beef hash patties fried in skillet... Chocolate milk.
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Cold morning today, only 32 degrees. Fired up the oven and made cinnamon rolls (from a tube) and a pot of coffee.
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2 egg burrito with bacon and a side of hashbrowns. Coffee.

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Breakfast Quesadillas. Grilled flour tortilla filled with scrambled eggs, hash browns, chopped green chile, cheddar & Jack cheese and bacon. Coffee.

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Taco omelette. 3 eggs, taco meat from yesterday, diced green chilis, cheddar cheese, chopped red onion, avocado, black olives, chopped tomato, La Victoria Salsa Brava.

This one was really, really good!
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osu1991
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Sorry to hear this. R.I.P.
FTA4PA
R.I.P.
dishstaller
My Mom was a huge McMillan & Wife fan.

RIP
dfergie
Mcmillan and wife was where I remember her from, R.I.P. ...
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R.I.P.
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in SiriusXM Satellite Radio
Some of the channels start next week.

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comfortably_numb
My favorite is probably Holiday Pops.
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It's not even Halloween yet.
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I like the Jimmy Fallon channel. This will be its third year. I like that it's all fresh each year. Also fun when he pops on live from time to time.
dishstaller
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

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Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

They will have to look at the switching sections to determine WHY 2 trains were on the same track ... at the same time.