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Last reply Jun 7, 2008 · posted in Cable Television and Fiber Providers

BHN Tampa Internet

Right now I just have their internet at 7 Mbps download and supposedly 512k Kbps upload. I stream video from my security cameras and have Vonage.

All was well until I switched a virtual Vonage number to be a 2nd primary Vonage line. Now when the cameras are streaming the party on the other end of a phone conversation can't understand me, but I hear them just fine.

As for the cameras streaming, I have disabled the Web to Talk feature which provides audio and by the software limited the output to 150 Kbps and even if you estimate Vonage at 180 Kbps that only comes to 330 Kbps and my speed tests usually run about 490 Kbps when I'm not using the phone.

That said, I used to use the Web to Talk and run the camera stream at 400 Kbps and had no trouble for years!

Long story short, Vonage blames BHN and BHN says it should work and blames my router (even though it worked just fine before). And looking at the Vonage site it claims it only needs 90 Kbps of my upload bandwidth, so even double that I don't see why there should be a problem, yet there is!

So what is BHN's solution? To try their new 15 Mbps speed which has an un-guaranteed 2 Mbps upload speed. Problem is I would ALSO be required to subscribe to their cable service which would bring the monthly cost over $100 a month after taxes.

So I'm in a quandary. I really don't need cable TV, except that now with the rain outages it would be nice to have. But I am very happy with my DBS programming, some of which BHN does not offer.

Now I've read that Road Runner is going to start capping broadband speeds and start charging by the gigabyte. Kinda defeats the purpose of switching to cable for the larger upload bandwidth.

I considered Verizon DSL either as a bridge connection or separately just to take over the duties of Vonage and for general surfing, except the last time I checked I was unable to get DSL due to being equally too far away from their service box in both directions. But that was some time ago and the online availability tool sometimes says I can and sometimes says I can't. So I'm betting that even if it worked it would at best be for a lower speed than desired.

Any suggestions?

And if I were to go ahead and subscribe to their Digital cable service any suggestions on that? I have just 1 TV that has HDTV and 2 older SD sets, except even at $100 a month it doesn't look like I get HD DVR service as I understand it, though from their website it appears that I would get HD Advantage live.

This has been a really frustrating problem for me. I was perfectly happy with what I had until now and I feel like I'm getting soaked just to get things to work right again.

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Jun 7, 2008

Can you cite a source for the above statement. I have heard of broadband providers doing this but no such talk of RR in Florida doing any such thing.

CNET was reporting that it was in the trial stage in Texas and would be for all RR eventually, but no I've not heard for certain if BHN will be included. It's logical to assume it might be though.

As for the router it's a D-Link Dir-655 so it is one of the newer routers and the firmware is up to date. I've tried with the QoS off & on with the same result. The minute I turn off the network feed on the cams the phone works just fine. I even lowered Vonage to 50 Kbps and the camera feeds to 100 Kbps and the same results. I hear callers fine, callers can't hear me.

I guess VO sounds fine if you have the scratch. That extra cost is a bit hard on me though and the one upside of the cable option would be that at least I would have cable programming included and could cancel my DBS to cover part of the increase to my budget. If I'm not mistaken that 20 Mbps speed comes at a price because you have to sub to their phone service, which again nabs some of that all important upload bandwidth.

But here's a thought. Now the Dir-655 is a gigabyte router. Does that VO account use the same modem technology as my WebStar or does it perhaps better support a gigabyte network?

skottey

Jun 7, 2008

Scroll said:
Can you cite a source for the above statement. I have heard of broadband providers doing this but no such talk of RR in Florida doing any such thing.

CNET was reporting that it was in the trial stage in Texas and would be for all RR eventually, but no I've not heard for certain if BHN will be included. It's logical to assume it might be though.

As for the router it's a D-Link Dir-655 so it is one of the newer routers and the firmware is up to date. I've tried with the QoS off & on with the same result. The minute I turn off the network feed on the cams the phone works just fine. I even lowered Vonage to 50 Kbps and the camera feeds to 100 Kbps and the same results. I hear callers fine, callers can't hear me.

I guess VO sounds fine if you have the scratch. That extra cost is a bit hard on me though and the one upside of the cable option would be that at least I would have cable programming included and could cancel my DBS to cover part of the increase to my budget. If I'm not mistaken that 20 Mbps speed comes at a price because you have to sub to their phone service, which again nabs some of that all important upload bandwidth.

But here's a thought. Now the Dir-655 is a gigabyte router. Does that VO account use the same modem technology as my WebStar or does it perhaps better support a gigabyte network?

Although the VO is more expensive, you get a static IP and it has a better modem. You also get better service when you have a problem since it is a business account.

It sounds like your problem might be with Vonage. I am assuming your first line and second line are on the same box and that line 1 works fine and line 2 has a problem. I would consider replacing the Vonage box. Either use two boxes, one for each line, or just move both lines to a new box. You own the box, so it isn't something Vonage will replace for free. In all honesty, I have seen problems with people's Vonage boxes that went away when the unit was replaced. My father in-law has like six lines on three boxes all working in harmony and I have three lines working fine in my home office. My wife and I are often ont he phone at the same time with no problem. But even before I had VO, I was 7/512 and had no problems. So I don't think it is with RR.

On the subject of charging by the bandwidth, I think that there are a bunch of bad apples out there taking advantage. I have heard statistics like 5% of cable modem users use over 50%+ of the bandwidth. These idiots are running limewire and torrent shares moving movies and games and software around like aholes! I am sure we have all downloaded mp3s or a movie or software as a novelty, but these idiots are pushing and pulling in entire movie libraries 24 hours a day. These bad apples are forcing the cable companies to meter the bandwidth. What they really need to do is set a baseline of so many gigs, like the average amount the average user uses. Lower the price by ten dollars and then say, "anything over X will be metered and billed." The average RR user will pay $35 and the hogs can pay $100-$200 for their illegal file sharing and trading. I hate it. A few idiots spoil the bunch. Get a job people! Go buy your content. Stop stealing it. I know people that do this and it is really stupid.

But anyway, I don't think metered pricing will be put into place for RR biz class customers. They aren't the ones trading HD movies 24/7. Also, remember, RR has to complete. Much of Tampa Bay is getting FIOS, and if FIOS doesn't cap or meter bandwidth, while RR does, nobody is going to want to stay with RR. They aren't going to risk losing customers. I think they are only going to go after the hogs, and they know exactly who they are. Thay have mailed threatening letters to the hogs and many of them have slowed down or stopped. Others continue to rebel until their connection is turned off and then they cry foul like they have done nothing wrong. I hate these kind of people.

Scroll

Jun 7, 2008

It sounds like your problem might be with Vonage. I am assuming your first line and second line are on the same box and that line 1 works fine and line 2 has a problem.

Actually they are on the same box but both lines have the issue. Since I have one of the older Motorolas (long time Vonage customer) I too suspected the box. I had spent over a half hour with Vonage tech support and the guy "claims" my box was fine. I still haven't ruled out that the box is at fault for myself, but I think you're right that they had no desire to replace the box even to retain a good customer.

I can appreciate what you say about the bandwidth hogs. However I also see that I could technically fall into the same usage amounts due to my streaming. The 1st thing I thought of when I heard about 2 Mbps uploads was I could use 1 Mbps for my cams because the other 1 Mbps was more than enough to run Vonage and a PC or two.

skottey

Jun 7, 2008

Scroll said:
It sounds like your problem might be with Vonage. I am assuming your first line and second line are on the same box and that line 1 works fine and line 2 has a problem.

Actually they are on the same box but both lines have the issue. Since I have one of the older Motorolas (long time Vonage customer) I too suspected the box. I had spent over a half hour with Vonage tech support and the guy "claims" my box was fine. I still haven't ruled out that the box is at fault for myself, but I think you're right that they had no desire to replace the box even to retain a good customer.

I can appreciate what you say about the bandwidth hogs. However I also see that I could technically fall into the same usage amounts due to my streaming. The 1st thing I thought of when I heard about 2 Mbps uploads was I could use 1 Mbps for my cams because the other 1 Mbps was more than enough to run Vonage and a PC or two.

On another note- We have a lot in common. I am a freak about my streaming cameras. I had 12 cameras throughout my premises until lighting took out 8. I was down to 4 and back up to 8 now. I use Slingbox to view them remotely on my laptop or Pocket PC cell phone. I love it. Even with 2 up, I throttle my Slingbox stream, otherwise they will attempt to use as much bandwidth as they can. My online backups need throttling too.

I'll bet it is your Vonage box. I have probably that same Motorola Vonage box as you. Jack 1 is a primary line and jack 2 is my fax line. As I said, I have had problems with the fax line. It isn't a big deal because I rarely fax in or out. But if that Vonage box is flawed to work with two lines, that could be your problem. All worked fine you said until you changed a virtual number to its own line. Usually, with a new line you can get a new box out of them. If I were you I would threaten to leave if they don't act reasonable and replace your Vonage box. After all, you did turn that virtual line into a full line. I really think it is the Vonage box.

stevenl

Jun 7, 2008

Scroll said:
Can you cite a source for the above statement. I have heard of broadband providers doing this but no such talk of RR in Florida doing any such thing.

CNET was reporting that it was in the trial stage in Texas and would be for all RR eventually, but no I've not heard for certain if BHN will be included. It's logical to assume it might be though.

As for the router it's a D-Link Dir-655 so it is one of the newer routers and the firmware is up to date. I've tried with the QoS off & on with the same result. The minute I turn off the network feed on the cams the phone works just fine. I even lowered Vonage to 50 Kbps and the camera feeds to 100 Kbps and the same results. I hear callers fine, callers can't hear me.

I guess VO sounds fine if you have the scratch. That extra cost is a bit hard on me though and the one upside of the cable option would be that at least I would have cable programming included and could cancel my DBS to cover part of the increase to my budget. If I'm not mistaken that 20 Mbps speed comes at a price because you have to sub to their phone service, which again nabs some of that all important upload bandwidth.

But here's a thought. Now the Dir-655 is a gigabyte router. Does that VO account use the same modem technology as my WebStar or does it perhaps better support a gigabyte network?

Turn your Cameras on, then run a speed test. See if they are using more then there allotted 50kbps because that seems to be the issue. When cameras on you have no bandwidth left..

Also note with BHN Digital phone it does not use your allotted upload bandwidth. The MTA has its own section of upload bandwidth to use. So thats not an issue.

stevenl

Jun 7, 2008

skottey said:
On the subject of charging by the bandwidth, I think that there are a bunch of bad apples out there taking advantage. I have heard statistics like 5% of cable modem users use over 50%+ of the bandwidth. These idiots are running limewire and torrent shares moving movies and games and software around like aholes! I am sure we have all downloaded mp3s or a movie or software as a novelty, but these idiots are pushing and pulling in entire movie libraries 24 hours a day. These bad apples are forcing the cable companies to meter the bandwidth. What they really need to do is set a baseline of so many gigs, like the average amount the average user uses. Lower the price by ten dollars and then say, "anything over X will be metered and billed." The average RR user will pay $35 and the hogs can pay $100-$200 for their illegal file sharing and trading. I hate it. A few idiots spoil the bunch. Get a job people! Go buy your content. Stop stealing it. I know people that do this and it is really stupid.

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The number being floated around is about 250GB a month. Then charging per each addtional GB (kinda like cell minutes)

The statistic is more like the top 1% use over 50% of the network bandwidth. That cap of 250GB a month would only affect the top 1% RR's customer base. the other 99% of customers are below the cap. The majority are WELL below the cap.

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dfergie

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Broadcast Networks Programming Discussion Thread

Link to Todays Broadcast HDTV Program Guide (updated daily from our friends at HDTV Magazine...)
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Will be avoiding the networks tonight for obvious reasons... might watch some classic NCIS to fill the gap.

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New Laptop?

After having continuing trouble with my eight+ year old Dell Inspiron laptop I am looking to hopefully catch a good deal on new one. My options to buy is Costco and Sam's Club. It seems like a lot of new laptops are 2 in 1 which I do not need. I use the laptop to mainly surf the web and keep up with my finances, money and bills. I would like to have at least a 15" screen and having a touchscreen is a plus. The keyboard would need to lighted also. I don't game any. It would have to be Windows instead of and not Mac. The brands I see the most are Asus, Dell and HP. My two last laptops has been Dell's. Of these brands are there any standouts over the other brands. My budget (hopefully) is $600+-. Also while researching I noticed that do not have ethernet ports.

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harshness

Yesterday at 10:44 AM

In a world where Chromebooks are retailing for upwards of $600, that probably isn't enough for a self-respecting Windows laptop.

Come to think of it, it is barely enough for a reasonable mini PC with a monitor, keyboard, and mouse these days.

If a laptop is a mandate, you're looking in the used market, and that's a complete crap shoot unless you can get a factory refurb with a >90-day warranty.

reubenray

Yesterday at 11:54 AM

After checking on new laptops and not liking the prices I checked to see when I replaced the battery in mine. It was about five years ago. I also installed a bigger 1TB SSD drive a few years ago. It already has 12GB of RAM which was more than most new laptops I looked at. I plan on replacing the battery to see what happens. The laptop is a Dell Inspiron 5570. Is there anything else I need to replace?

primestar31

Yesterday at 10:43 PM

reubenray said:
After checking on new laptops and not liking the prices I checked to see when I replaced the battery in mine. It was about five years ago. I also installed a bigger 1TB SSD drive a few years ago. It already has 12GB of RAM which was more than most new laptops I looked at. I plan on replacing the battery to see what happens. The laptop is a Dell Inspiron 5570. Is there anything else I need to replace?

Maybe replace the CMOS battery? Power on while taping the F2 key to get into the Setup screen, then take photos of all your cmos settings before replacement, so you can easily restore them after replacement.

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5 minutes ago

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Maybe replace the CMOS battery? Power on while taping the F2 key to get into the Setup screen, then take photos of all your cmos settings before replacement, so you can easily restore them after replacement.

What is the difference between a standard CR 2032 3v battery and a CMOS CR2032 3v battery?

harshness

1 minute ago

reubenray said:
What is the difference between a standard CR 2032 3v battery and a CMOS CR2032 3v battery?

There isn't one. CMOS is what the battery powers.

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Song Name Game Part 3!

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osu1991

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Last reply 4 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

USA Healthcare Costs are Ridiculous

Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs

My health Insurance renewal for 2027 just came in. Going from $827 a month to $1,187 a month. Deductible going up a $1k to $9,350. Max out of pocket also going up $1k to $11,000. Doctor co-pay of $40. Urgent Care co-pay $50. ER 50% coinsurance after deductible. That's all in network. Out of network is double, should it be needed.

Have to think about this. I'm really tempted to just go without now. I only go to the doctor once or twice a year. I pay out of pocket for Tirzepitide and can do without the Rosuvastatin (crestor) now. Really tired of spending over $10k a year and getting nothing out of it.

After years with Blue Cross I switched last year to Ambetter as my Blue Cross premium was going from $1200 to $1800 for a Silver plan and the Bronze plan was still going to be $1300 at BCBS. Ambetter was $827 for the same coverage with a Bronze plan. Didn't think it would jump this much so soon.

I'm guessing a Silver plan is probably over $2,000 a month for 2027.

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osu1991

Sunday at 7:39 PM

Such a scam. Healthcare.gov shows me cheaper individual plans available for 2027 from ambetter that ambetter doesn't show on their website. Looked it up. I've spent $68,000 in premiums the last 5 years and got nothing out of it except a few doctors visits and labs.

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 3:01 AM

osu1991 said:
Such a scam. Healthcare.gov shows me cheaper individual plans available for 2027 from ambetter that ambetter doesn't show on their website. Looked it up. I've spent $68,000 in premiums the last 5 years and got nothing out of it except a few doctors visits and labs.

have you even been abroad. talk about the cost of health care the whole cost of living in merica is a scam. were taxed to death so bad everyone's a slave to the govt. explore the cost of living in other countries it might blow your mind!!!

AZ.

Today at 7:31 AM

slow_poke_pete said:
have you even been abroad. talk about the cost of health care the whole cost of living in merica is a scam. were taxed to death so bad everyone's a slave to the govt. explore the cost of living in other countries it might blow your mind!!!

Yes and they have healthcare.

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dishstaller

Today at 9:22 AM

AZ. said:
Yes and they have healthcare.

There are some recent videos on Youtube where Americans who left the US for the utopia of Europe are having serious second thoughts and the "free healthcare" is one of the primary things they mention.

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navychop

Today at 9:30 AM

I've had CTs etc within MINUTES of entering an ER (A&E).

In Canada, they publish wait times (months) for CTs. And track the number of deaths of such people while waiting.

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osu1991

43 minutes ago

navychop said:
I've had CTs etc within MINUTES of entering an ER (A&E).

In Canada, they publish wait times (months) for CTs. And track the number of deaths of such people while waiting.

Must be nice. My mother waited hours in the ER for that when she fell over the summer and hit her head.

Heaven forbid they think you have a swallowing issue. They'll just let you die unless you void a DNR order and agree to be intubated with a feeding tube. Hospitalist refused any other option and told me to prepare for the end. I had to call a doctor friend that recommended that I move my mother to hospice care which would take over care from hospital staff and approve giving her something. She didn't pass their swallowing test but had no problem actually swallowing. 2 days after hospice took over and she actually had some nutrition she was back to normal. After that I refused any more $2100 ER transports from long term care. They did the same to my dad 6 years ago when he was in the hospital and couldn't pass their swallowing test even though he had been fine eating and drinking for a week while there under the care of the cancer hospital before being moved to the main hospital. It led to his health decline after showing improvements towards being released.

I know more now and will push back if ever in those situations again. Also ticks me off the hospitalist doctor has final say over any of the specialists actually caring for the patient. In my opinion all of these hospitals and clinics being bought by two or three large national groups has led to poorer care.

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AZ.

25 minutes ago

In 1993 they were trying to address healthcare, now the problem is a damn monster!.....We need more drs, and nurses to start. Rural hospitals are closing down left and right. It looks like my closest hospital(26 miles away) doesnt think they will make it through next year. The whole thing is a mess! And by the first of the year it will be on steroids!

hold on tight

Keith Brannen

14 minutes ago

navychop said:
I've had CTs etc within MINUTES of entering an ER (A&E).

In Canada, they publish wait times (months) for CTs. And track the number of deaths of such people while waiting.

CT scans in Canada are based on a priority rating, your ER visit and scan would have been a Priority 1 (Emergent) and been done fairly quickly (depending what the situation was) or at the very most, within 24 hours.

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harshness

8 minutes ago

AZ. said:
We need more drs, and nurses to start.

That's a big ask, given the liability situation and the demands from the insurance companies. My podiatrist spends 20% more on liability insurance than I made in a year.

WhiteBeard

4 minutes ago

dishstaller said:
There are some recent videos on Youtube where Americans who left the US for the utopia of Europe are having serious second thoughts and the "free healthcare" is one of the primary things they mention.

I'm not surprised. Most of these Americans never got outside of their hometown let alone do international travel. They hear about the "positives" and think it's utopia in European countries. I have both lived in and visited many European countries. There's no place better than here. And then there are those Americans that complain about our country but I don't see many leaving even though I wish they would.

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Amazing Race Season 39

The Amazing Race season 39 cast features a 2-time World Cup champion

https://ew.com/the-amazing-race-season-39-cast-revealed-features-two-time-world-cup-champion-12057573

Sept 30 on CBS and Paramount Plus.

Hopefully this season will be as good as Amazing Race Canada season 12 has been so far this year.

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dfergie

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I end up watching the opening and a few minutes after Survivor every week before moving on.

meStevo

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Last reply 30 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Volcanic Eruptions

Continuing the Kilauea thread in the Pub here. Perhaps the Iceland one too next time there's remarkable activity.

Currently there is precursory lava flowing into the crater, leading to the next episode that'll probably start within the next day.

You can see the pace of inflation / deflation here. It serves as the primary predictor for when the expect the eruptions, which coincide w/ inflation turning into significant deflation and last for several hours on average with significant fountaining.

Monitoring Data for Kīlauea

For more information on how electronic tiltmeters and GPS receivers help monitor the deformation of Kīlauea volcano, see the HVO Deformation page.

www.usgs.gov

View: https://youtu.be/Uecu2seh4b4

Wife and I like the AfarTV feeds, for the discussion along w/ them, though they're otherwise just mirrors of the official USGS feeds.

View: https://youtu.be/iws3rh5vLAQ

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Oct 17, 2026

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Foxbat

Oct 17, 2026

Oooo, quite the show now. All three vents have doming and overflows. The cone that built up around the North vent lost its upper quarter at 02:50 Oct 17 and is now spewing lava at a healthy rate. Don't know if I would say it's a fountain, but it's close.

edit: The USGS has called the official start of Episode 55 as starting at 03:19 HST Oct 17, 2026:

Alert Level: WATCH, Color Code: ORANGE 2026-10-17 13:43:56 UTC
HVO/USGS Volcanic Activity Notice

Volcano: Kilauea (VNUM #332010)

Current Volcano Alert Level: WATCH
Current Aviation Color Code: ORANGE

Issued: Saturday, October 17, 2026, 3:43 AM HST
Source: Hawaiian Volcano Observatory
Notice Number: 2026/H488
Location: N 19 deg 25 min W 155 deg 17 min
Elevation: 4091 ft (1247 m)
Area: Hawaii

Summary: Episode 55 of the ongoing Halemaʻumaʻu eruption began at 3:19 AM HST on October 17, 2026.

Volcanic Activity:
Episode 55 of lava fountaining in Halemaʻumaʻu began at the summit of Kīlauea began at 3:19 AM HST on October 17, 2026.

Fountain heights are relatively low at about 100-150 feet (30-45 m), and it is not clear whether this episode will evolve to the same heights as previous episodes. Continuous overflows from the vents began yesterday, October 16, just before 6 a.m. HST and transitioned into episode 55 fountains at 3:19 a.m. HST this morning. The current forecast is for winds are blowing from the north-northeast direction, which suggests that volcanic gas emissions and volcanic material may be distributed to the south-southwest direction from Halemaʻumaʻu.

All eruptive vents and lava flows are confined to Halemaʻumaʻu crater within Hawaiʻi Volcanoes National Park. Tephra fall from volcanic ash clouds is greatest within 3 miles (5 km) of the vents, lighter ash and Pele's Hair may stay suspended for large distances from the vents.

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Foxbat

Oct 17, 2026

Kīlauea seems to be returning to the "normal" eruption script, impressive fountaining from the North Vent. For once, the V2 Cam has the best overall shot:

The lava flows have covered a good portion of the Halemaʻumaʻu crater floor.

Foxbat

Oct 17, 2026

Looks like Episode 55 is over at 09:00 HST, just under six hours. The USGS said the fountains reached 720' or 220 meters.

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Foxbat

30 minutes ago

The USGS Kīlaeua Webcam #1 has been showing overflows and doming from the North vent overnight. Maybe the volcanic plumbing has settled back into its two-three week cycle of fountaining?

But I do miss the little cinder cone that broke up in the last episode.

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BlackHitachi

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Last reply 31 minutes ago · posted in Movie Talk

Last & Next Movie Watched

Since the Reds have there thread we should too!

Last watched Nine inch Nails
Next 3:10 to Yuma

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Foxbat

Oct 17, 2026

Since it was already "paid" for, I spent the two hours of my time watching the John Cena action movie on Apple TV, "Matchbox The Movie" even though the reviews were brutal. It was better than I expected, so I didn't feel like I had wasted an afternoon watching it. But it felt like another "Reacher"/"Neghley"/"Mission: Impossible"/"Fast & Furious" crash and blow stuff up with lots of automatic gunfire mixed in movie featuring covert CIA operatives.

I don't think we'll get a follow-up movie from this. I expect Mattel will have other toy lines to exploit.

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Barbara Hershey :heartbeat

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Barbara Hershey

Last of the Dogmen is my favorite of hers.

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ewindowman

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Last reply 33 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Bankruptcy - Business as Usual

Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th

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nelson61

Yesterday at 12:22 PM

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SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.

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Scott Greczkowski

Yesterday at 1:25 PM

nelson61 said:
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.

Can't remember where or who I saw predict this.

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.

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MikeD-C05

Today at 9:17 AM

Scott Greczkowski said:
Can't remember where or who I saw predict this.

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.

So Charlie is going to sell out and give it all the Elon?

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dishstaller

Today at 9:27 AM

MikeD-C05 said:
So Charlie is going to sell out and give it all the Elon?

My opinion: Charlie is getting old and his business is dying, so yes, he'll sell out. His situation is akin to a lone holdout who owns property that a big developer wants.....after a while they give in to the inevitable.

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Bruce

38 minutes ago

Scott Greczkowski said:
It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.

Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.

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Scott Greczkowski

33 minutes ago

MikeD-C05 said:
So Charlie is going to sell out and give it all the Elon?

I would say yes, but he will stay on board with Elon somehow.

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Scott Greczkowski

33 minutes ago

Bruce said:
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.

I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.