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A heartwarming sport's comeback story by Plain Dealer Columnist Bill Livingston....

Tuesday, June 10, 2008
Bill Livingston
Plain Dealer Columnist


As a boy, LeCharles Bentley watched his hometown team win and lose epic games in a stadium that, like the team itself, would soon be gone.

He wasn't quite 10 when his favorite player, tailback Eric Metcalf, hopscotched through the Bengals' defense near their goal line on a Monday night, showing the nation moves it had not seen even from his father, ex-NFL star Terry Metcalf.

As a teenager, Bentley cheered as Metcalf ran back two punts for touchdowns in a game in 1993, leaving Steelers clutching and gasping in his wake.

Maybe Bentley still has a future with the Browns.

Maybe he has only his memories of when wearing the "orange hat" on the field in Cleveland was as good as it gets.

He took his team physical Monday, although the results were not disclosed.

Bentley has been working out with his own personal trainer in Arizona, which reflects the strained relationship between the offensive lineman and the Browns. He has spent the past two seasons unable to play. He tore his left patellar tendon on the first play of his first day at training camp on 2006, then battled complications from the surgery to fix it.

He has his signing bonus and his paychecks, amounting to $16 million in all from the Browns. He also has a shortened contract, which allows him to become a free agent after this season.

He has told friends he is ready to play. A center, he can also play guard. If healthy, he would not be a spare part so much as needed depth. Even if he plays, his season might amount to an audition for free-agent suitors. Many teams would love to have a former Pro Bowler who is adept at two positions.

The medical soap opera with Bentley involves two of Cleveland's most powerful institutions. The Browns and Cleveland Clinic are on one side, and on the other is a popular local player, the nation's top center when he was at Ohio State, a Pro Bowler in New Orleans, a man who came home to complete what is almost a holy trinity of Ohio football at St. Ignatius, OSU and the Browns.

Clearly, the Browns and their caregivers have tried hard to curb the staph infections that have stricken six Browns players in recent years. They want the players back, healthy, as soon as possible. Moreover, Bentley is still on the roster in part because his signing as a free agent was so popular with the fan base.

At the same time, any patient has the right to a second opinion, or in his case, a second surgical option. His fourth and final operation was done by a New York Giants doctor.

If healthy, Bentley would have to mesh with the current offensive line. Bolstered by the imposing talent of Joe Thomas, the line finally possesses the elusive ingredient called chemistry. It cannot be summoned at will, but must be built on repetitions, interdependence and trust. The Browns teams Bentley loved were greater than the sum of their parts precisely because of such chemistry.

Perhaps this will end in the old, cold mantra that football is a business. But it also is about the covenant among the Browns, their fans, and their hometown players.

Bentley's goal is to play in the opener against the Dallas Cowboys. It wouldn't be like Metcalf ducking peril 15 years ago. What is? But it would be close enough.


*Update:10:05AM: Phil Savage (Browns GM) told the media today that LeCharles Bentley will be practicing with the team starting today. Bentley passed both his physical and the standard run test that the administered by the team.
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HD MM
According to The Plain Dealer, the Browns renegotiated Bentley's contract this year to $605,000, which is the league minimum. Bentley got paid between $15-$16 million for the two previous years that he was injured and never played a down. It's possible that LCB was pissed about the pay cut and the owner was pissed about not getting anything in return for his $16 million investment.

On another note, Browns beat reporter, Andre Knott reported that Bentley doesn't have a drivers license. So, on the day Bentley got released, his Mom picked him up! So the brat who didn't get what he wanted took his ball and went home and had his Mommy come get him! :D
Jimbo
According to The Plain Dealer, the Browns renegotiated Bentley's contract this year to $605,000, which is the league minimum. Bentley got paid between $15-$16 million for the two previous years that he was injured and never played a down. It's possible that LCB was pissed about the pay cut and the owner was pissed about not getting anything in return for his $16 million investment.

This happens all the time.
HD MM
This happens all the time.

Yeah well, apparently LeChuck just doesn't get it.

$16 million to rehab in sunny Arizona for 2 years.

$600,000 to actually play football for 1 year.

These players today seem to want their cake and eat it too.
Jimbo
Yeah well, apparently LeChuck just doesn't get it.

$16 million to rehab in sunny Arizona for 2 years.

$600,000 to actually play football for 1 year.

These players today seem to want their cake and eat it too.

You seem to think that this is the only person that gets paid well to go thru rehab ...
Why, it baffles me, take a look at the daily injury report and you will see plenty of players getting payed very well to rehab.

Jimbo
HD MM
You seem to think that this is the only person that gets paid well to go thru rehab ...
Why, it baffles me, take a look at the daily injury report and you will see plenty of players getting payed very well to rehab.

Jimbo

Jimbo, I'm not debating the fact that LCB and others get paid well during injury at all. I'm simply saying that he owed it to the Browns to play out his contract when he finally did get healthy.
Jimbo
Jimbo, I'm not debating the fact that LCB and others get paid well during injury at all. I'm simply saying that he owed it to the Browns to play out his contract when he finally did get healthy.

Sounds to me like the Browns didn't want him and he didn't want them.
They weren't willing to let him compete for a starting position, you gotta at least let him compete for a spot, you may as well have told him that he was going to be on the Practice Squad ....
GoTribe
Sounds to me like the Browns didn't want him and he didn't want them.
They weren't willing to let him compete for a starting position, you gotta at least let him compete for a spot, you may as well have told him that he was going to be on the Practice Squad ....

WTF? :confused:

How the hell do you know they weren't willing to let him compete for a starting position?

HE'S the one who asked for his release. Seems to me that he wasn't willing to let himself compete for the starting position.

As for your earlier comments about this "happening all the time," please show me an example of someone who made $16 million and didn't play once in two years?
Jimbo
How the hell do you know they weren't willing to let him compete for a starting position?

Bentley was arguably one of the best centers in the NFL when healthy, and he didn't want to remain in Cleveland as a backup. Says to me that the Browns did not offer a cometition for the position.

As for your earlier comments about this "happening all the time," please show me an example of someone who made $16 million and didn't play once in two years?

The amount of 16 million doesn't matter to the Browns or the player, they obviously bargined that figure, my point is that players get hurt and get paid in all kinds of situations in Pro sports.

Jimbo
HD MM
Sounds to me like the Browns didn't want him and he didn't want them.
They weren't willing to let him compete for a starting position, you gotta at least let him compete for a spot, you may as well have told him that he was going to be on the Practice Squad ....

I've never heard that the Brown's wouldn't have let him compete for a starting spot. It was the fact that the Browns didn't just hand over the spot to LeChunk that pissed him off among other things. No team in their right mind would just guarantee a starting spot for a guy who two years ago almost had his leg amputated! He had to earn the starting spot, just like any other player.

Plus, we've already came to the conclusion that this separation had much more to do with than a starting spot.

Read my previous post for more detail....

http://www.satelliteguys.us/1402380-post10.html
Jimbo
I've never heard that the Brown's wouldn't have let him compete for a starting spot. It was the fact that the Browns didn't just hand over the spot to LeChunk that pissed him off among other things. No team in their right mind would just guarantee a starting spot for a guy who two years ago almost had his leg amputated! He had to earn the starting spot, just like any other player.

Plus, we've already came to the conclusion that this separation had much more to do with than a starting spot.

Read my previous post for more detail....

http://www.satelliteguys.us/1402380-post10.html

I don't think he expected them to hand him a spot, but I do think he expected to have a chance to win one, but when the Browns reiterated that thier line was set, he decided to move on.

It's very obvious that you don't like the guy, but thats OK, we didn't have to pay him...

Jimbo
HD MM
I don't think he expected them to hand him a spot, but I do think he expected to have a chance to win one, but when the Browns reiterated that thier line was set, he decided to move on.

It's very obvious that you don't like the guy, but thats OK, we didn't have to pay him...

Jimbo

I actually started this thread in support of LCB, but when the later news of him asking for a release came about, I lost all respect for him. I had two years of support invested into LCB. It's been a nasty divorce to say the least....
GoTribe
I don't think he expected them to hand him a spot, but I do think he expected to have a chance to win one, but when the Browns reiterated that thier line was set, he decided to move on.

When did the Browns reiterate that their line was set?

And, again I'll ask you, if the Browns didn't want him anymore, why did HE ask for his release?
Why wasn't he already gone?

Why did the Browns invest $16 million in him the past two years, and admit him to the one of the best medical facilities in the world?

The bottom line is the fact that he would have to work his way back from 3rd on the depth chart hurt his pride, so he took his ball and went home to mommy.
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I haven't posted in almost 17 years. Over the air, sat, offline, anything-but-the-internet is still one of my avid pursuits. Been playing with offline tv viewing and offline web browsing. I have great appreciations for this site still being here. It's so hard to find public communities that haven't sold out to social media company.
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dishstaller
Got to admit, I had to look up "offline web browsing". I had never heard of it.
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Scott Greczkowski
Welcome back, as you can see we branched off into a bunch of things since Satellite is what it is now, so lots to talk about here. :)
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Jimbo
Got to admit, I had to look up "offline web browsing". I had never heard of it.
From what I understand, it's just saving a article or whatever, to Save it so you can read it later ....
Unless he's talking something entirely different ... the way I am looking at it, you Still need the Internet to load it originally.
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dishstaller
the way I am looking at it, you Still need the Internet to load it originally.
That was kinda the way I understood it as well.
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Harden My HEART-Quarterflash
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My Heart Will Go On - Celine Dion
Bobby
This Should Go On Forever - Rod Bernard
long_time_Dish
Go On Cry - Heart
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Let Her Cry - Hootie & the Blowfish
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Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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dishstaller
My Wife was recently in an antique store and saw a rotary desk phone and it had one of those sticker overlays that had a business listed with phone number under each number on the dial. She looked closer and it had my old Radio Shack listed under the 8...she bought it. Pretty cool keepsake. Back then I rented vhs movies as well so I had it listed as Radio Shack / Movie Gallery and then the phone number.
Almighty1
I remember this in the news too...

Bobby
I remember this in the news too...

That is a misnomer. In the old days you subscribed to telephone service. That included the telephone line and one telephone. An extension cost $1 a month extra. So that $14,000 over 42 years was for the service not the leased telephone. There is no way they paid $28 a month for 42 years for a leased telephone.
HIFI
2.webp
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anybody remember this disaster ?
SuperDish_Fan23
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
Whoever still has their 922, please let me know i just wanna see photos of the ui and other stuff
Gary Toma
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The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
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National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
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Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
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Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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jamieh1
Now in the Hornets and Hurricanes markets we just get the TV promise screen. But Directv still charges sports fee I am assuming.
Luckily my DTV stream package doesn't have a rsn fee. Figure DTV that always says is the leader in sports would have come to an agreement by now.
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K
Now in the Hornets and Hurricanes markets we just get the TV promise screen. But Directv still charges sports fee I am assuming.
Greenville-New Bern is $11.99 for MASN (Orioles) and Nationals
Raleigh is $11.99 for MASN and Nationals
Charlotte is $12.99 for BravesVision, MASN, Nationals and Reds

The fee in NC also includes the higher in state rate they have to pay for ACCN. Down in SC the fee is $15.99 as they are also a SEC state.
I'm not sure if they're doing it with those teams, but in some markets they also use the fee to cover the additional cost they have to pay for independents and MyNet stations that picked up full season NHL and NBA rights.

If you go to the TVPromise site, you'll likely be able to get a credit for not getting the Hurricanes and additional Hornets games that air on WITN-D2

Figure DTV that always says is the leader in sports would have come to an agreement by now.
Part of the hold out might be the packaging and price for outer areas like how the Thunder needs sports pack for other states. Hopefully they are also pushing for a guarantee from the teams that they would require whoever wins their local broadcasting rights in 2028 to negotiate with MVPDs. Commercial distribution rights are probably a factor too.

I'm guessing they got a deep discount for the Clippers based on how long it took them to officially announce ClipperVision and their KTLA simulcasts after they were basically handed a multi-year draft death penalty.

The Predators and Pistons channels are using feeds supplied by Scripps Sports

The Heat likely depends on whoever they sign for the Fort Myers DMA, as there's no point in paying a high price for the Heat just for that DMA when WPLG is streaming it for free on their app and website for viewers in the Miami DMA, and they already carry the West Palm Beach station.
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cp2k
If you go to the TVPromise site, you'll likely be able to get a credit for not getting the Hurricanes and additional Hornets games that air on WITN-D2

I tried this with both the Hurricanes and Hornets since I'm in upstate SC, and wasn't offered any kind of credit by the site. It's not a huge deal to me as I can pick up WSOC/WAXN over the air at my location even though I'm outside the Charlotte market.
TheRatPatrol
I thought the NBA TV contracts were short term as the NBA is trying to get all of the teams into in an all in one streaming app?
K
649 GRZLLIES and 671 PACERS are now available.

The rest are still pointing to the TV Promise slate
K
660 CAVLIERS, 668 TWOLVES and 680 SPURS are now available
coolman302003
649 GRZLLIES and 671 PACERS are now available.
660 CAVLIERS, 668 TWOLVES and 680 SPURS are now available
One thing in common among these 5 teams is they all signed exclusive local streaming rights with DAZN (replacing traditional regional sports networks previously).

I know the Spurs are going to have 22 games OTA on (KMYS-TV CW35) in SA market but they will also still be on DAZN so a simulcast not exclusive to CW35 but in addition. So we should get all the Spurs feeds on NBA LP via the channel 680 remap.
Tom Speer
Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Cutting Edge Information
In order to participate in any Cutting Edge testing, you must sign a Non Disclosure Agreement (NDA). Attached are a .docx (Microsoft Word) and PDF version of the latest DirecTV NDA. I found it easiest to complete the .docx version then paste a photo or scan image of my signature, cropped closely to just the signature into it as a picture. Then set Word to wrap text around the picture so that the picture follows the text "Signature".

People who have better PDF tools than I do may prefer that version.

When you apply for any Cutting Edge testing, you will be told how to send the signed copy.
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Tom Speer
Any NDA you have signed before is still valid for the testing you have been and hopefull still are doing. The new NDA forms are ror new CE testers and new categories of CE testing. They have been placed here so that people who volunteer for any CE testing have access to them.
dishstaller
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
This was actually one of the more disturbing videos I've seen on this channel. IF this guy hadn't been driving a Tesla which has 360 degree cams, he would probably become a felon and had his life ruined.....all because of a lying cop. The other officers in this video didn't impress me too much either, their whole mentality was how can we nail this guy.
This is a perfect example of why I'm always a bit nervous when I get below Perry, FL. There is a huge difference between north and south Florida and everyone who lives here knows this.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4Q8q0KQQ14
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Bruce
This was actually one of the more disturbing videos I've seen on this channel. IF this guy hadn't been driving a Tesla which has 360 degree cams, he would probably become a felon and had his life ruined.....all because of a lying cop. The other officers in this video didn't impress me too much either, their whole mentality was how can we nail this guy.
This is a perfect example of why I'm always a bit nervous when I get below Perry, FL. There is a huge difference between north and south Florida and everyone who lives here knows this.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4Q8q0KQQ14

Central is not any better, Polk County still does not have body cams.
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Bruce
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Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
I was reading this article


That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.


Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.
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Jimbo
But they ARE Streaming as well, so they Should be counted as both, which would make the Streaming numbers even More prominate.

Q.
Who does the Counting for Streaming ?

Neilson does the Broadcast/Cable ...
b4pjoe
But they ARE Streaming as well, so they Should be counted as both, which would make the Streaming numbers even More prominate.

Q.
Who does the Counting for Streaming ?

Neilson does the Broadcast/Cable ...
But they are basically airing a number of live channels just like Broadcast, Cable, and Others so that is why they are counted that way.
Bruce
But they ARE Streaming as well, so they Should be counted as both, which would make the Streaming numbers even More prominate.

Q.
Who does the Counting for Streaming ?

Neilson does the Broadcast/Cable ...
Same.

Ratings for streaming content is extremely accurate, since the service knows who is watching what and when, when we hit ok on our remotes.

Ratings for Broadcast/Cable shows has always been a estimate.
Jimbo
Same.

Ratings for streaming content is extremely accurate, since the service knows who is watching what and when, when we hit ok on our remotes.

Ratings for Broadcast/Cable shows has always been a estimate.
If I flip thru shows on an app, 3-4 in a few minutes, does that still show that I watched the whole episode ?


If I watch the Super Bowl for 5 minutes, does that count as watching the Super Bowl ?
Is it the same if I just watched the Commercials.
Bruce
If I flip thru shows on an app, 3-4 in a few minutes, does that still show that I watched the whole episode ?


If I watch the Super Bowl for 5 minutes, does that count as watching the Super Bowl ?
Is it the same if I just watched the Commercials.
Nielsen Streaming Ratings: Third-party measurement firm Nielsen tracks U.S. streaming viewership, releasing weekly reports that measure total minutes viewed across major television sets, broken down by program (such as original, acquired, and movie content) rather than minute-by-minute audience retention curves.
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Bobby
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.

As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
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Bobby
CFB, Indiana at Michigan, Saturday 10-24, 9AM PDT, Channel 148-01.
CFB, BYU at UCF, Saturday 10-24, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
Bobby
MLB, Rays at Brewers, Friday 10-23, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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MLB, Rays at Brewers, Saturday 10-24, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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MLB, Brewers at Rays, Monday 10-26, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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MLB, Brewers at Rays, Tuesday 10-27, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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