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jrawls2

Last reply Jun 12, 2008 · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

OTA antenna and HD DVR receiver

Will any over the air antenna connect to my hd dvr receiver. I have the newest one I think it is the HR-21. I know what kind of OTA antenna i need to get the best reception, i just wasnt sure if it mattered what brand it was or if only certain kinds would connect to the receiver. Thanks for anything

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schneid

Jun 11, 2008

AntennaWeb is another good site to see what kind of antenna you need. There is no such thing as an HD antenna. The same old antennas from rabbit ears to the rooftop monsters work. There will still be UHF and VHF so the safe bet is to get one that does both.

texasbrit

Jun 11, 2008

schneid said:
AntennaWeb is another good site to see what kind of antenna you need. There is no such thing as an HD antenna. The same old antennas from rabbit ears to the rooftop monsters work. There will still be UHF and VHF so the safe bet is to get one that does both.

Antennaweb is OK but is a bit inaccurate. There are often stations you will be able to receive that are not listed on antennaweb. You are right about there being no such thing as an HD antenna. But you definitely don't want to follow the "safe bet" and get an antenna that will handle all the frequencies. Most digital TV signals after the transition will be on UHF, and if you are in an area where all the stations will be UHF you can use a much smaller antenna. There are quite a few stations that will be on VHF-hi (channels 7-13) and for those you need an appropriate antenna. There are several new antennas designed just for channel 7 and above and although because they are VHF/UHF they are larger than the UHF only antennas, they are still smaller (narrower) than traditional all-band antennas. If you are unlucky enough to be in one of the areas where a station has decided to move back to their VHF-lo frequency (2-6) then you will need a traditional multiband antenna, which are much larger than either the UHF or UHF/VHF-hi antennas.
Both antennaweb and TVfool give you information that will help you get the correct antenna. If your stations are anything but "yellow" on antennaweb then your chances of getting decent reception with any indoor antenna are not good. there are lots of very poor indoor antennas around, particularly those that don't look like antennas or that have heavy amplification. If your stations are "yellow" on antennaweb, try the Philips/Zenith Silver Sensor HDTV1 for UHF - if you have VHF as well, the Terk HDTVi is a clone of the Silver Sensor but with "rabbit ears" for VHF. Make sure you try the unamplified versions.
For outside antennas, there are lots of options. The best price-performance are probably the CM "bowties" (CM4220/1/8) for UHF (the CM4228 does well for VHF-hi also if the signals are strong) , also the Antennas Direct 91XG for distant UHF. If you want a UHF/VHF-hi combo the new Winegard range (HD769x) are excellent. If you have to have VHF-lo as well, use the Winegard HD708x range.
Just like for indoor antennas, if an outside antenna does not look like an antenna it is almost certainly an underperformer for the price. Antenna physics is the same now as it was 50 years ago. The CM4228 which is one of the two best-performing UHF antennas has been around for a very long time. So things that look like dishes, saucers, electric heaters and so on should be avoided!

GaryPen

Jun 11, 2008

texasbrit said:
If your stations are "yellow" on antennaweb, try the Philips/Zenith Silver Sensor HDTV1 for UHF - if you have VHF as well, the Terk HDTVi is a clone of the Silver Sensor but with "rabbit ears" for VHF. Make sure you try the unamplified versions.

Just like for indoor antennas, if an outside antenna does not look like an antenna it is almost certainly an underperformer for the price. Antenna physics is the same now as it was 50 years ago. The CM4228 which is one of the two best-performing UHF antennas has been around for a very long time.So things that look like dishes, saucers, electric heaters and so on should be avoided!

Things aren't always so simple. I was using a Silver Sensor in my last place. It performed much better with an amp.

Also, the amplified Winegard "Square Shooter" (ss-2000), which looks like large gray plastic book, has an excellent reputation and overwhelmingly positive reviews. That is the one I plan on buying. (I'll save any recommendation until after I use it, though.)

texasbrit

Jun 11, 2008

GaryPen said:
Things aren't always so simple. I was using a Silver Sensor in my last place. It performed much better with an amp.

Also, the amplified Winegard "Square Shooter" (ss-2000), which looks like large gray plastic book, has an excellent reputation and overwhelmingly positive reviews. That is the one I plan on buying. (I'll save any recommendation until after I use it, though.)

No, the Square Shooter while probably being the best of the "non-conventional" antennas is still not as good as the bowtie antennas and is much more expensive. see Comparing some commercially available antennas for some comparitive antenna information. The DB2 has better performance (as does the CM4220 - not shown on the diagrams) in both UHF and VHF-hi.

jrawls2

Jun 12, 2008

I actually have the HD-DVR - HR20-100. Does this make a difference?

texasbrit

Jun 12, 2008

jrawls2 said:
I actually have the HD-DVR - HR20-100. Does this make a difference?

No, you can use any antenna.
I use a CM4228 connected to an HR20-700, an HR20-100 and an HR21-200/AM21 combination.

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TheForce

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Last reply 26 minutes ago · posted in The Phone & Tablet Zone

Apple Event September 2026

Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.

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TheForce

Oct 7, 2026

Heard a story from one of the Apple influencers on YT that the 18PM has a bug where it stops connecting to AT&T service. Doesn't affect Verizon or T-Mobile. Apple is replacing the phones. Anyone else hear of this? Defective Modem?

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harshness

Oct 8, 2026

TheForce said:
Defective Modem?

It seems the phone gets locked into Sat mode. A software patch is coming to avoid that pitfall, but it comes too late for those who already fell in.

Apple confirms iPhone 18 Pro Max AT&T cellular issues, affected devices require hardware replacement - 9to5Mac

Apple has confirmed an issue causing a “small number” of iPhone 18 Pro Max devices on AT&T to lose cellular...

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Oct 10, 2026

Can't remember if I've posted this yet..

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Foxbat

35 minutes ago

If you ponied up for an iPhone Duo, keep it away from anything other than your soft, fleshy fingertips. No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter. And don't bend it more than it needs to. Zack has destroyed $2,000 of Apple hardware to get those views, which should cover his expenses.

comfortably_numb

26 minutes ago

Foxbat said:
No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter

And definitely no medieval chain armor!

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NEED SUGGESTIONS FOR NEW FTA BOX

IS Amiko MIRA 3 any good ???
Can you recommend the best to cover all bases. NO BEEPS on certain channels 101w (NEWSMAX ,NEWS NATION), a clock that keeps working STEADY for timed recording ,solid unit with good lifespan. My Amiko died AND my Linkbox has NO Favorites Button and BEEPS on many channels. Picking up 105 west with a NEW SHED IN THE Way with 6 foot Cband ..95 percent quality ...unbelievable.

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Last reply 55 minutes ago · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

Traditional/Streaming Live TV Providers Losses, 3rd Quarter 2026 Edition

Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

Comcast Just Lost 274,000 TV Customers & 144,000 Internet Customers In Just Three Months | Cord Cutters News

Comcast Corporation reported its third-quarter 2026 results on October 22, showing continued erosion in its domestic residential broadband internet and video customer bases as competitive pressures intensified across the connectivity market. The company recorded a net loss of 144,000 domestic...

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dishstaller

Thursday at 10:18 AM

Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.

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savarese04

Thursday at 11:24 AM

dishstaller said:
Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.

people are moving to fiber, which is better up and down and also not Comcast.

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dishdude

Thursday at 2:02 PM

savarese04 said:
people are moving to fiber, which is better up and down and also not Comcast.

dishstaller said:
Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.

Cord cutting 2.0. Not just fiber, 5G is really taking a toll on the cable companies.

AZ.

Thursday at 2:24 PM

dishdude said:
Cord cutting 2.0. Not just fiber, 5G is really taking a toll on the cable companies.

I agree, for $35 it aint perfect but just as reliable as my cable was. And that was twice as much and still rising

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ncted

Today at 7:45 AM

Comcast called fiber pricing "irrational" because the ROI is over three years. What is irrational to me is Comcast internet is based on lines they put in the ground decades ago at this point, for the most part. Is copper that much more expensive to maintain?

brice52

55 minutes ago

ncted said:
Comcast called fiber pricing "irrational" because the ROI is over three years. What is irrational to me is Comcast internet is based on lines they put in the ground decades ago at this point, for the most part. Is copper that much more expensive to maintain?

yes. even copper lines in a house degrade over 70 years, I doubt coax would last that long. Fiber Optic on the isp side will last over 70 years with very dedgration

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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply Today at 11:03 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Yesterday at 10:21 PM

Don't Take Me Alive - Steely Dan

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Today at 2:37 AM

TAKE On ME-A-Ha

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Today at 6:51 AM

On Broadway - George Benson

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Stay In Time - Off Broadway USA

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Just In Time - Tony Bennett

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dishstaller

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 10:51 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

You can't even trust the cost per ounce info in grocery stores anymore

I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.

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telstar_1

Wednesday at 2:22 PM

Juan said:
You are paying for the whole thing

Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.

Jimbo

Wednesday at 6:26 PM

telstar_1 said:
Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.

I would think that the Vendor/Maker of the product would have a say in it, showing the Correct weight ...
You would think it would be in the contract.

I do look at the ounces of items, but unless its way off, I don't check the math, may have to start now.

Remember when you use to get a 13.5 oz bag of Chips .... Thats a PARTY Size now.

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TRG

Wednesday at 6:41 PM

Jimbo said:
I would think that the Vendor/Maker of the product would have a say in it, showing the Correct weight ...
You would think it would be in the contract.

I do look at the ounces of items, but unless its way off, I don't check the math, may have to start now.

Remember when you use to get a 13.5 oz bag of Chips .... Thats a PARTY Size now.

I remember when a pound of coffee was 16oz. Now its 12oz, they don't call it a pound anymore and its three times the cost of the 16oz pound.

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Jimbo

Wednesday at 7:05 PM

TRG said:
I remember when a pound of coffee was 16oz. Now its 12oz, they don't call it a pound anymore and its three times the cost of the 16oz pound.

Well, they don't call it a pound anymore ....

Ice cream is that way too, use to be a half gallon, now its 1.5 quart or some say 48 oz

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NYDutch

Wednesday at 7:39 PM

Jimbo said:
Well, they don't call it a pound anymore ....

Ice cream is that way too, use to be a half gallon, now its 1.5 quart or some say 48 oz

We have a regional ice cream company here that advertises that their ice cream containers are still a full half gallon.

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Jimbo

Wednesday at 8:54 PM

NYDutch said:
We have a regional ice cream company here that advertises that their ice cream containers are still a full half gallon.

Now check and see if any of them (probably a few) are actual Ice Cream ...

Most Ice Creams are Not actual Ice Cream.
Bryers for example, call Most of thiers "Frozen Dairy Dessert"

Jimbo

Thursday at 9:27 AM

harshness said:
Unless the specific product or its packaging is known at the time of weighing, estimating the tare weight for a PoS system is a tall order.

I'm pretty sure that produce bags can't get any thinner.

You certainly don't want to put unbagged produce on a belt, scale, or in a clerk's hands (gloved or not).

I would think that all the packaging would already be accounted for ... they weigh the container, subtract that from the scale, then add the product , so its weighing the Product only

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harshness

Yesterday at 4:42 PM

Jimbo said:
I would think that all the packaging would already be accounted for ... they weigh the container, subtract that from the scale, then add the product , so its weighing the Product only.

You would be thinking wrong when it comes to goods that are sold by weight (meat, produce, nails). Those items typically go on the scale wrapped without an associated tare. The weight only excludes the sticker because it hasn't been printed yet.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 5:08 PM

harshness said:
You would be thinking wrong when it comes to goods that are sold by weight (meat, produce, nails). Those items typically go on the scale wrapped without an associated tare. The weight only excludes the sticker because it hasn't been printed yet.

Thats ridiculous ....

Thats not how Deli does it, I know your talking pre packaged.
They need to CHANGE that.

harshness

Yesterday at 6:50 PM

Jimbo said:
Thats not how Deli does it, I know your talking pre packaged.

Perhaps only for sliced meat and cheese. Salads and similarly "shifty" or "drippy" items are typically weighed in deli cartons of some sort.

My monster burritos (up to two lbs.) are weighed in their foil jackets or paper mache take-out trays, and the jacket/tray is then "sealed" with the printed label as it comes off the printer.

Precision has to give way to practicality in situations like that.

TRG

Yesterday at 8:38 PM

Jimbo said:
Now check and see if any of them (probably a few) are actual Ice Cream ...

Most Ice Creams are Not actual Ice Cream.
Bryers for example, call Most of thiers "Frozen Dairy Dessert"

I only buy Tillamook and Alden's ice cream. The first ingredients are milk and cream.

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Jimbo

Yesterday at 9:16 PM

harshness said:
Perhaps only for sliced meat and cheese. Salads and similarly "shifty" or "drippy" items are typically weighed in deli cartons of some sort.

My monster burritos (up to two lbs.) are weighed in their foil jackets or paper mache take-out trays, and the jacket/tray is then "sealed" with the printed label as it comes off the printer.

Precision has to give way to practicality in situations like that.

What ever I get out of the Deli is put into a container when I ask them for it, they weight the container and then add the deli product, thats the way its suppose to be, if the rest of the world is screwing you, you should try the place down the street.

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Jimbo

Yesterday at 9:20 PM

TRG said:
I only buy Tillamook and Alden's ice cream. The first ingredients are milk and cream.

$7.50 a 1/2 gallon, thats worse than Bryers price wise.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 9:23 PM

TRG said:
I only buy Tillamook and Alden's ice cream. The first ingredients are milk and cream.

1st Big Question is ... How Much Sugar is in it and Sodium and Carbs ...
I' m really not suppose to have Ice Cream, or at least Moderately ....
Depending on the amount of sugar and sodium (don't think theres sodium in it, but Carbs probably is.)

Jimbo

Yesterday at 9:24 PM

Jimbo said:
$7.50 a 1/2 gallon, thats worse than Bryers price wise.

I'll give that a try next time, if I can find some in the right sugar areas.

Juan

Yesterday at 9:25 PM

Jimbo said:
What ever I get out of the Deli is put into a container when I ask them for it, they weight the container and then add the deli product, thats the way its suppose to be, if the rest of the world is screwing you, you should try the place down the street.

They are probably cheating you by swapping store brand product for name brand...those store deli's are very sketchy

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Bobby

Yesterday at 9:40 PM

Jimbo said:
I'll give that a try next time, if I can find some in the right sugar areas.

22g per serving.

Juan

Yesterday at 9:51 PM

Bobby said:
22g per serving.

How much is a serving?

Bobby

Yesterday at 9:58 PM

Juan said:
How much is a serving?

2/3 of a cup, a large scoop.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 10:46 PM

Juan said:
They are probably cheating you by swapping store brand product for name brand...those store deli's are very sketchy

They are made every day at this place ... it's a little Ma and Pop store ...

When ever I order something, they weigh the container (like everyone is suppose to) then weigh the product, so you actually get what your paying for lb wise ...

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Juan

Today at 8:48 AM

Jimbo said:
They are made every day at this place ... it's a little Ma and Pop store ...

When ever I order something, they weigh the container (like everyone is suppose to) then weigh the product, so you actually get what your paying for lb wise ...

I apologize...I was thought you were talking about a supermarket deli

Jimbo

Today at 9:14 AM

Juan said:
I apologize...I was thought you were talking about a supermarket deli

Well, it is a Super market deli, just not a MAJOR one .

navychop

Today at 9:33 AM

Bobby said:
2/3 of a cup, a large scoop.

Awwww. You missed your chance to say "22 grams."

navychop

Today at 9:34 AM

Jimbo said:
don't think theres sodium in it

According to "Miss A"" there is. Especially for higher end ones.

Jimbo

Today at 9:39 AM

navychop said:
According to "Miss A"" there is. Especially for higher end ones.

I did look into that ... the ones I get have about 65mg, which is very little ... but then I wouldn't expect much to be in Ice Cream.
Carbs are more than I would have liked ...

Bobby

Today at 10:51 AM

Jimbo said:
I did look into that ... the ones I get have about 65mg, which is very little ... but then I wouldn't expect much to be in Ice Cream.
Carbs are more than I would have liked ...

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dishstaller

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Last reply Today at 9:41 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

We're less than 4 weeks away from Voyager 1 reaching a distance of one light day from Earth

I've always been super interested in things space related so this is a pretty cool event coming up. Nov 18, 2026 early in the morning, Voyager 1 will reach the distance of one full light day from Earth. Took almost 50 yrs. I was 13 when it launched.

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Foxbat

Today at 12:57 AM

So, 1/1596th the way to Alpha Centauri (if it were headed that way). 79,800 years to go…

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Bruce

Today at 3:47 AM

Foxbat said:
So, 1/1596th the way to Alpha Centauri (if it were headed that way). 79,800 years to go…

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b4pjoe

Today at 8:40 AM

Foxbat said:
So, 1/1596th the way to Alpha Centauri (if it were headed that way). 79,800 years to go…

Thanks for that info. I will mark it on my calendar!

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Jimbo

Today at 9:41 AM

Bruce said:
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Will the Jupiter 2 make it in time ....
Stay tuned ...

jamieh1

Last reply Today at 9:13 AM · posted in DIRECTV Programming Forum

Hurricanes NHL game channel

Looks like DTV made a deal. I'm now getting it on ch 650. The tv promise slate is gone.

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Mr Tony

Today at 9:13 AM

A few teams got a deal. Was posted yesterday in the Directv update thread

https://www.satelliteguys.us/xen/th...p-data-10-21-2026.402660/page-44#post-5109885

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Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 9:12 AM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

All DMA's now Western Arc

I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.

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navychop

Oct 3, 2026

Years down the road

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renjy651

Oct 4, 2026

navychop said:
Years down the road

Looks like Charlie Ergen will never give up satellite TV. The reason Echostar 25 the most poweful DBS satellite ever built at 110 location already. Also Echostar 26 another super satellite on order for 119 orbital location will be ready in 15 months. he will have 110/119 for another 20 years. Dish will be the only satellte company left. The reason for rural areas and some people like satellite easy to operate and change channels in seconds.

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Mister B

Oct 5, 2026

renjy651 said:
Looks like Charlie Ergen will never give up satellite TV. The reason Echostar 25 the most poweful DBS satellite ever built at 110 location already. Also Echostar 26 another super satellite on order for 119 orbital location will be ready in 15 months. he will have 110/119 for another 20 years. Dish will be the only satellte company left. The reason for rural areas and some people like satellite easy to operate and change channels in seconds.

I hope these new "most powerful" satellites will mean that DISH can provide every channel that can be sourced in HD in HD. I do not like the fact that two of my favorite channels (Start and H&I) are SD. I was also very disappointed after installation that METV has to be streamed from my internet connection. Finally, I dropped the locals upon seeing that my local CW channel is in blurry letterboxed SD when it has been HD OTA for years.

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zippyfrog

Oct 5, 2026

Mister B said:
I hope these new "most powerful" satellites will mean that DISH can provide every channel that can be sourced in HD in HD. I do not like the fact that two of my favorite channels (Start and H&I) are SD. I was also very disappointed after installation that METV has to be streamed from my internet connection. Finally, I dropped the locals upon seeing that my local CW channel is in blurry letterboxed SD when it has been HD OTA for years.

This piece gets me - the fact that Dish has removed SD channels from satellite completely in the name of "HD upgrades". I pay for satellite TV, not streaming...I don't see why they couldn't leave the SD version of the channels on Satellite then put the HD streaming version like they have for other channels.

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navychop

Oct 5, 2026

zippyfrog said:
This piece gets me - the fact that Dish has removed SD channels from satellite completely in the name of "HD upgrades". I pay for satellite TV, not streaming...I don't see why they couldn't leave the SD version of the channels on Satellite then put the HD streaming version like they have for other channels.

CONTRACTS!

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telstar_1

Yesterday at 5:58 PM

navychop said:
CONTRACTS!

At this point one can only ask whether any live ch's are still distributed in SD. Other than maybe "classics" ch's that run only older stuff

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Strega

Yesterday at 10:01 PM

Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.

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Jimbo

Yesterday at 11:15 PM

telstar_1 said:
At this point one can only ask whether any live ch's are still distributed in SD. Other than maybe "classics" ch's that run only older stuff

Personally, I would HATE to see a SD Channel at this point.

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Jimbo

Yesterday at 11:17 PM

Strega said:
Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.

Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.

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Mister B

Today at 7:35 AM

Jimbo said:
Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.

I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.

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Jimbo

Today at 9:11 AM

Mister B said:
I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.

Oh Yes, the Genaric Commercials .... have you seen the DR Trimmer commercials lately (and accessories )

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Jimbo

Today at 9:12 AM

Mister B said:
I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.

Not many are watching.
Majority are watching the same shows in HD or 4K

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